TED Talks : Enough With The Fear Of Being Fat

Well then, based on everything you have said…not to sound like a dick but, is your wife not fat? It is weird to read the things you are writing considering.

@maverick88 My wife is actually working on getting back in shape and is taking it very seriously. My wife was recently diagnosed with hypothyroidism which made weight control AND conception difficult! I’ll tell ya, you’re one nervy, outspoken, anonymous dude, bringing up my wife considering problems we’ve faced, bringing up my medical disorder (which also caused a fertility problem) and medication I use in a bodybuilding thread in inappropriate ways.

I had trepidation about responding to you recently, even about training questions considering I have a sixth sense for sniffing people out.

Don’t talk to me anymore unless you come out like a real man and say what is your goddamn issue with me! That, and if you’re going to talk so freely to people who are trusted others on a forum, open up about yourself a bit, why don’t you? Post a picture. Tell us about your trials and tribulations so I too can push manners aside and hit you below the belt too!

Talking about my wife? Seriously, get the heck out of here with that shit! And where are you seeing pictures of my wife? If you’re going to snoop around anonymously, then stay that way, and buzz off. Or if you don’t, post pictures of your gorgeous self and life happenings!

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Body Fat Ranges For Females.
Top athletes: 15 to 20%
Fit women: 21 to 24%
Healthy/acceptable: 25 to 32%
Overweight: 33% plus

Good grief. I don’t know if you know Brick outside of these forums, but his wife has a sort of Christina Hendricks, Sofia Vergara body type. I know Brick put a picture up of her in his contest thread after I told him how much I liked that pic. It was pretty because of the lighting, but it hardly does her justice. I’ve seen many pictures of her, and I think Brick’s wife is really classically beautiful. There are other pictures that show her curvy figure more. She’s nowhere near overweight in the sense of the people we’re talking about here.

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I ran into the same thing a while back when someone here took a shot at my wife (actually called her a fat pig) in a thread similar in nature to this one.

The subject must be a real trigger for some people. Or the same person. Hard to tell when they hide behind a keyboard.

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First and foremost, I never once said anything about fitness, so YOU can get the fuck over it yourself!

Second… I am female and if want to check my abs between sets, that my business. You know you don’t mind it when chicks do it.

Third…since when do you have to be fat to be powerlifter? Sapir is single digit body fat and has an 800+ lb squat. A couple world records in different classes I believe. I think you have 400 lbs or so to go to catch up.

Oh! By the way…what ever happened to the…
Help a Powerlifter with Fatloss thread?

I believe I smell the foul odor of failure in your words. I went thru complete and utter hell when I lost my job and could no longer have beloved junk food. And yes, that includes cheeseburgers. I did not want to stop, I was forced to. I look back now and am thankful, but at the time I thought I was going to die. If you want to be fat, I don’t give a fuck. Be fat! All I am saying is that I don’t want to see it. Hell! I didn’t even want to see myself when I was fat. And yes, I face this shit on a daily basis. I have been called everything from a methhead to an aids victim because I am not fat anymore. It’s not supposed to hurt my feelings? Whatever!

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@Brickhead: The guy is actually a successful small business owner. He has worked extremely hard for what he has achieved, although I think there was some luck involved in his success. But like I said, the guy worked hard and took a risk so deserves all the success he has. And thats kind of my point. The guy is not stupid when it comes to some things, but when linking his lifestyle and eating to his physical wellbeing he completely fails.

This has got me thinking maybe those with “lefty arty”(sorry about the politically incorrect terms) brains have the neural connections to construct an argument and get up on stage and may be more likely to get up on stage (such as the lady in video) and defend her “fatness”, while not having the neural hardware to know how to fix it.

Does that make sense? I don’t think I have the neural hardware to put across what I mean in words.

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Dang, this discussions getting hella heated. Oh and some questions for y’all.

Among the people y’all know whom consider themselves overweight and underweight, what are their usual responses regarding their mass or lack there of?

Personally, I don’t associate much with people who whine about being overweight. They’re either strongman/powerlifters who know that they can probably shed a few pounds or they’re just regular people who don’t work out who acknowledge that they’re fat and they don’t do much about it simply because they don’t care enough. I’m fine with both groups of people.

What annoys me is them underweight people who constantly go on and on about how their high metabolism prevents them from gaining weight and how us mortals who’re capable of gaining weight be really lucky and horse shit like that.

Call me crazy but skinny people don’t get nearly enough flak for being skinny. Being overly skinny and being overweight isn’t all that much of a difference. The only major difference being, when it comes to skinny people, there’s less of them to look at and that probably annoys most people less.

Woah, I believe my post was misinterpreted. I hope you didn’t think that by saying conventional fitness wisdom could fuck off that I was telling YOU to fuck off, @ChickenLittle. I read your initial post as an inquiry in to an alternative mindset, not a direct challenge.

Anyway, the “Help a Powerlifter with Fatloss” thread is still going and I still update it. I lost 20 lbs and am back on a strength diet and still weigh 225. I cleaned up my diet and dropped a weight class, didn’t change my entire outlook on life and fitness.

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Man, I feel you. I’ve been through a very long struggle with my wife and pretty advanced thyroid cancer. It is tough especially when you live a fitness oriented lifestyle. FTR, she is officially cancer free and we can now have more kids as of November.

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I would have said she’s hot, but I don’t talk about other people’s spouses. :wink:

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My apologies for the misinterpretation. But yes, I read that like you were telling me to fuck off, and I thought, WHuuuttt? What did I do to this guy? Sorry, about that. :flushed:

Let’s hope it isn’t a new TN variation of Goodwin’s Law.

Glad to hear your wife is OK.

how much weight have you lost now?

great news, man. Congrats

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I lost the weight a couple of years ago. Started at 180 got down to 105 or so at one point. Not good. I got back up to around 120 -125. Been bulking since March…lol Weighed in at 122 this morning so, I have lost 75 lbs and gained some back. My goal is to end up somewhere around 130-140lbs.

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@anon71262119 @DoubleDuce @SkyzykS
What’s interesting is that as I was responding to @maverick88’s question, I was thinking to myself, “I have a strong suspicion of what this maverick character is doing: he is asking a pre-emptive question and if he gets the desired response, will then respond with a snide remark.” And lo and behold, that’s exactly what he did! Boy, my intuition is getting better as I get older.

I see from this second incident he might have a knack for derailing the focus of threads onto an individual in the thread or that he has an issue with me personally.

This same sort of behavior was thrown my way by a defected T-mag poster with a penchant for burgers and Hammer Strength machines on another popular bodybuilding forum. I was discussing training with this other dude and out of nowhere, the guy states my age, that I don’t train seriously (because in years past I laid off from my pastime of bodybuilding), that I take a certain medication, and that my balanced life might really not be as balanced as I present it. He said something, out of nowhere, like, “You’re 36 years old, you don’t train seriously, you take _____ (medication), and you’re life is likely not as balanced as you present it because those who present their lives a certain way usually are not balanced,” or some nonsense like that. The funny thing, is that one year later, at 37 years old I won a bodybuilding show and came in shredded to ribbons. So much for all that non-serious training, great friends, great in-laws, and a wife I love.

I have a strong suspicion of why I’ve gotten such treatment. I am far from someone who likes to self-aggrandize–after all, I’m a fairly ordinary dude–but I suspect that there are some who think to themselves, “That Brick/Bradley character thinks who the hell he is. He makes strong statements and speaks as if he knows it all. He’s judgmental.”

This is likely because I don’t feel like explaining the context of each and every damn statement I make and often generalize because I think that other grown adults can imply the context themselves and I don’t care to individualize every damn statement else I confuse myself and others and thoroughly derail discussions and entire shreds, which is sort of what I am doing now! But apparently some can’t understand an unstated context and don’t read every sentence I write, especially ones like, “I have loved ones that are obese and overweight.” Add to that, I am not perfect myself and I have had family members with addiction problems with drugs and gambling. Oh, and one with a previous drug dealing problem (with a resultant short stay in Riker’s Island, a wonderfully forgiving place!)

And perhaps one can understand that although one has disdain for a certain behavior or quality, it does not mean they excommunicate/shit-can those close to them with that quality or behavior! I thought this was implied too! Did I shit-can those with problems and say something like, “Hey, you’ve yo-yo’ed with weight; so get the hell out of my life,” or, “You drink too much; now GTFO!”

However, it doesn’t mean that we handle loved ones with kid gloves. My mom would often say to my weight-yo-yo’ing, overweight granddad, flat out, “Daddy, you’re getting too fat! Stop eating so much!” And I’ve given tough treatment to close friends and a certain family member about their weight control when they asked me for advice on training and nutrition. I don’t say stuff as crude as, “You’re too fat,” but I also don’t say everything is fine or that the fat loss will be easy!

Likewise, those close to me didn’t shit-can me, nor did they coddle me when I was dealing with personal problems, mostly regarding my long-gone clinical depression (thank god) and mood problems that sometimes occur to this day. They didn’t dump me, but they also didn’t say, “Gee, your awful temper and mood swings are just fine; we’ll accept them.” No, instead, rightfully so, I received statements such as, “Look, you keep this shit up, and you’re in for some major problems, specifically between us!” and more specifically, “You can take that Hitler temperament of yours and shove it; don’t f–cking talk to me anymore! (followed by a hanging up of the phone)”. Thankfully these people didn’t shit can me, but statements like those made me rightfully scared of being one angry and ultimately LONELY dude!

What would be interesting is if @maverick88 only saw that one photo of my wife and did not see others on social media considering in that one photo I am hugging and kissing my wife on one of the most exciting days of my life! What nerve!

MAYBE he and others did not have the experience of getting down to 5 to7% body fat and winning a show, even a small, local one, or even looking like one with a wife and in-laws who did the following to even accommodate that experience.

My wife would often prepare my food for the prep.
Massaged my CONSTANTLY aching lower body that resulted from leg workouts, tons of LISS cardio, interval sessions, and sitting on lean glutes at a desk job (try sitting on your sacrum when you’re below 10% for hours per day and see what it feels like)
On a short stay in Florida, had all my food items bought by the time I met up with her at her aunt’s house because she arrived there days earlier than I did.
Had epsom salt baths and some dinners ready as I got through the door after workouts so that all I had to do was clean myself and eat and then relax for the night.
Dealt with the constant restrictions of prep with me, no matter what was going on.
In-laws who had specific foods set aside at family gatherings because of my prep.
In-laws that came to the show and then had photos and a CD developed for me days later.

That list is just a microcosm of what my wife and in-laws have done for me, not to mention what my friends have done for me. I’ll accept them, even if they undesirably yo-yo (not desirable by them either) in weight sometimes, pal!

I am friends with some T-mag people in real life, one of whom I’m treating to dinner tonight for all his help with my contest prep. They know I’m not some unfairly judgmental dick and that I have a realistic outlook on things even though I make obtuse statements here and there!

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I have a different idea on this. I noticed that as I progressed through life and posted about it, the interactions with certain posters changed. As different life events unfolded like attending college, marriage, buying a home, and having a child, I no longer fit the assumptions that a given person had about what one should be. As that difference became greater the interactions became noticeably more disagreeable.

I could only assume that these markers were taken as a personal affront, because it was never about the subject matter of lifting, diet, technique, or anything related to the site. It would be a specific and personal attack launched directly at the personal achievement.

So I find it kind of funny that somewhere out in the ether that someone is distracted to the point of keeping track of these things, seething and waiting for an opportunity to take a shot of such a nature at someone that they have never met and will never actually know. It must touch on some personal failing of their own to get such a reaction.

Anyways, you must have been doing something right. Its easy to find support on a site dedicated to self improvement, but you have to really be knocking it out of the park to flush out a hater. (ftr-I really dislike that term “hater”, but it seems to fit in this instance)

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I try to be open minded and mostly succeed, but those shoes were problematic for me, too. Like, I don’t even know if I could be friends with her. The weight wouldn’t be a problem. What do I care? But the shoes…

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Congratulations for such life milestones! I experienced the same type of thing with a former friend as well. And the strange thing about the situation is that he started becoming increasingly resentful of me when I was preparing for my show, even though I have stressed to all those around me that bodybuilding is nothing more than a pastime! I mean, picture me, the one going through a grueling preparation for something that I consider nothing more than what it is, a luxury, hobby, or past time (whatever term one prefers). It’s not like I was bragging about it!

Yup!

This is what I find interesting, keeping tabs on someone else’s doings in a manner that they can fire away at an appointed time to insult or derail someone else. When the burger lover and I butted heads over at the Rx forum, I was speaking of training generally, and then the guy comes out of right field and starts talking about my life, prescription drug I take, and my age. I thought to myself, “WTF does this have to do with this conversation?”

Yeah. The reason T-mag is my favorite forum is because although it does not have exceptionally high traffic, the quality of posters is very high. Most here are good people, I believe, hence why I might dish out a bit more details about who I am and what I do here versus what I will expose on other forums.

I have a lot of respect for you.

Great!

Yes, two miscarriages have been quite upsetting! Plus we were wondering why it was becoming increasingly difficult to get in shape despite restricting calories and why she was becoming increasingly lethargic.

A compliment is fine with me! :slight_smile: