[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Who are you referring to that didn’t have to got through the ringer to start a business? Unless you are referring to those that inherited or bought a business, which just means at some point somewhere down the line someone busted their ass to make their place in the world and assure that not only would he be comfortable but subsequent generations would as well. Either way, hard work, greater intestinal fortitude, or superior intellect is at the root of how they came about that money and they should not be penalized just greater than anyone else just because of it.
Also maybe you can explain that bottom 5% thing when the bottom 5% not only do not pay taxes, but actually receive a refund in excess of what some of them earned, which was nothing?
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You are wasting your time(and I imagine that I already explained the 5% thing). You are talking to someone who thinks in terms of, “I strangle one pig, I better producer than man who shoot 10 pig.”(I actually like pittbulll-at least to the extent one can like someone he knows only over an internet message board-but that is his thought process) That is the only way one can believe that the amount of labor involved should have any impact on pay/income.
In a pittbulll-esque world, the man who spends 8 hours a day pushing a Prowler and swinging a sledgehammer in his backyard(he’s the hardest working self-employed laborer I know of) deserves more money than the folks that created the iPhone, etc.
He doesn’t understand that investments allow others to make money. He has no clue that investments are the free market’s version of taxation. He can’t comprehend that the only differences between paying taxes and investing are that the investor controls his investments, and the investment doesn’t have to be taken by force. He’s joined by the vast majority of people.
For what it’s worth, the biggest earners(EARNER being an important qualifier here) do more actual work than others. If a quadriplegic invests 10 billion dollars in Business XYZ, he has done more work than a man who plants each individual blade of grass at Business XYZ’s headquarters. Actually, assuming that the grass planter did not do his work for free and out of the kindness of his heart, the quadriplegic can easily be credited with planting those blades of grass.
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Oh I know I am. And I have done this before. But every now and then, about every 10th or 11th one of these threads, I hash it out again. More for my own amusement than anything else. Then I retreat back to my log and wait.