All those designs suck, tribal is the way to go.
Get those old sailor tattoos.
I think that it’s intresting that the swastika has been used by multiple cultures that have never been in contact with each other.
X- I agree that it would be offensive to some. I also agree that some people dont see it as a racist symbol. It’s all a matter of not offending vs displaying something that might have a positive value or even a negative one if you are the type to offend.
[quote]Valar Morghulis wrote:
I apologize for not posting the otehrs yet, here is the valknot.[/quote]
I like that one the best. The first one looks like a bunch of pitch forks and sort of Satanic. The other one looks like the biohazzard symbol as stated.
If you are into nordic things, why not have an artist draw you up a really cool Viking holding a battle axe or a hot Valkrie?
The swastika was really about sun worship, which is why it is prevalent in so many parts of Asia where people worshipped Mithras like deities.
[quote]GaMeOvEr305 wrote:
Get those old sailor tattoos.[/quote]
Oh yes… A green anchor or maybe “MOM”. I think I would rather go WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY back and get some of that Gallic blue tribal stuff.
[quote]cap’nsalty wrote:
PGJ wrote:
I wouldn’t get ANYTHING that even RESEMBLES ANYTHING associated with NAZI Germany or arian/nordic/germanic markings. It might be completely innocent, but you never know how some people will react. You could end up in a fight, ganged up on, or spend a lot of time explaining.
And NEVER get an arm-band tattoo. They were cool about 10 years ago, now they’re just cheesie.
In fact, if you’re German, never mention patriotism, and dye your hair brown if you are blond.
Actually, being American is offensive to some Arabs. Don’t ever travel on air plans, and avoid all Arabs. And wear a Canadian Flag on your backpack if you must travel.
Or you could just grow some testicles. Whatever works for you.[/quote]
Good point Cap. The Silesian Eagle happens to be a symbol of my heritage. Not a chance in hell would I think twice about putting it on my body because I’m worried that someone will be offended by it because some fuck supremacists decided it was a cool symbol to use at one time. It is part of my heritage, it is completely innocent, I am proud of it and it was in existance long before those idiots used it as their symbol.
i think you should consider (if you were to get a tat with an almost universal meaning of death and hate) what it actually means to you. this is going to be on your body for the rest of your life. is this the most meaningful symbol for you to use? if it is, then, by all means, go for it and get it done, at the risk of being hated for it. but, i would think that there are other symbols that could mean a lot more to you than, let’s say, a jain symbol.
and in this case, yes, “perception” DOES override all of the other historical connotations of the symbol. Sorry, but Hitler has damned the symbol in question for a looooong time. read the wikipedia information on the definiton of a symbol- it is deeply subjective and rooted in the nervous system, mostly through memory. apparently, the jains did not make a big enough impact on the world to overcome the emotions and memories associated with the swatstika.
To the OP, why do you want to get a tattoo and yet you don’t know what you want?
Are you just doing it to be cool or fit in?
Don’t force it or you will regret it.
Regarding the Nazi stuff, they really fucked up some cool looking symbols. It is too bad they were so evil because they had an awesome sense of style.
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
GaMeOvEr305 wrote:
Get those old sailor tattoos.
Oh yes… A green anchor or maybe “MOM”. I think I would rather go WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY back and get some of that Gallic blue tribal stuff.
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I have a decent amount of tattoos and, yes, I have an old fashioned mom tattoo. I know plenty of guys who are into the old Sailor Jerry type designs. They’re classic, I don’t know many people with over 10 tattoos that don’t have at least one Sailor Jerry piece. It’s probably different because a lot of the guys I know are tattoo ‘enthusiasts’ and the old school ink is kind of a respectful throwback to the golden age of American tattoos.
Wait until your 25 and think about it. Ask yourself why you are doing it and if the answer makes you sound stupid, than there is your answer. How are you gonna feel when you’re in your late 40’s or 50’s. Are you gonna commit any crimes in the near future that these could be used to point you out? If your planning on doing this, go to some REAL artists and come up with something original that will look cool in the span of your lifetime.
[quote]swerven wrote:
I told you in my previous post - probably about 3 billion people in central/western asia for starters! [/quote]
None of whom are this guy. Who is American, fully informed as to what it represents to the Americans he is likely to come into contact with.
He is also white and unlikely to be a Hindu or Jain, so he has no reason to adorn himself with swastikas aside from either agreeing with the Nazi movement (not saying this actual guy does, its seems like YOU do) or just really enjoying scaring/pissing people off.
[quote]swerven wrote:
Symbols that were mis-used for a relatively brief period of time.[/quote]
Boo hoo. Wait three hundred or so years then for the memories to fade.
[quote]swerven wrote:
This is as logical as remaining offended by a symbol used wrongly by a madman.[/quote]
You have yet to explain why a white American would adorn himself with a swastika for reasons that do not tie back quickly and tightly with white supremacy. Because…he’s a Jain? In the words of my sainted grandmother, “Bitch, please.”
If I, or most other people, see a guy with a swastika on his shoulder I will assume he is a Grade-A asshole, and possibly dangerous as well. It is not unreasonable to guess this. Reactions, either fearful or violent, are to be expected.
The original poster understood this - why don’t you?
Hey, Valar. Politics and everything else aside, I like the valknot best as a design. Having seen your face shot in another thread, I feel like the aegishjulmar will fit you best.
But as a few posters have said, if you can’t even decide what you want to get at this point, why bother getting one? I’m 26 years old and I have no tattoos or piercings. I don’t see myself ever getting one, but I do agree with the notion that if you’re going to get a design, it should have some meaning to you and will be something that you want with you from now to when you’re buried.
[quote]wokeuptiedup wrote:
I have a decent amount of tattoos and, yes, I have an old fashioned mom tattoo. I know plenty of guys who are into the old Sailor Jerry type designs. They’re classic, I don’t know many people with over 10 tattoos that don’t have at least one Sailor Jerry piece. It’s probably different because a lot of the guys I know are tattoo ‘enthusiasts’ and the old school ink is kind of a respectful throwback to the golden age of American tattoos.[/quote]
Like I said, I would rather go Gallic blue… The Gauls were some of the original tattoo enthusiasts. They used to cover themselves with them and go naked into battle against the Romans.
[quote]wokeuptiedup wrote:
I have a decent amount of tattoos and, yes, I have an old fashioned mom tattoo. I know plenty of guys who are into the old Sailor Jerry type designs. They’re classic, I don’t know many people with over 10 tattoos that don’t have at least one Sailor Jerry piece. It’s probably different because a lot of the guys I know are tattoo ‘enthusiasts’ and the old school ink is kind of a respectful throwback to the golden age of American tattoos.[/quote]
My wife and I don’t plan on getting and old-school type of stuff. Not that we don’t think it’s a valid art style or anything, we just don’t particularly like that style on us. I have 10 tattoos exactly, and my wife has about 80-ish hours worth of work on her.
Prof X is contradicting himself. It’s typical of him. Anyone challenges him on thread and the person is automatically a racist and doesn’t know anything. It’s actually pretty sad people listen to him. It’s OK to admit your wrong once in a while. He has tendancies of an only child…always has to be right.
My parents are from Ireland and I have a tat of a celtic cross. It’s a symbol of my heritage and my religion. People come on here to say it’s racist or symbolizes skin heads is BS.
[quote]swerven wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Who on planet Earth doesn’t know how the “swastika” is perceived by the majority of the people on the planet?
I told you in my previous post - probably about 3 billion people in central/western asia for starters!
Professor X wrote:
We aren’t talking about obscure symbols that aren’t known. We are talking about symbols that were used as the defining beacon for movements of hate in our past.
Symbols that were mis-used for a relatively brief period of time.
Professor X wrote:
It doesn’t matter what value you personally place on a swastika if we are speaking in terms of how it will be perceived by others. It will offend someone because enough people were hurt or killed in the early part of the 20th century that the world knows it by those actions.
So perception should overide truth or knowledge? People once perceived the world was flat and were offended by those that suggested it was actuall round.
I am intrigued why has so much emphasis been placed on a symbol as the essence of the evil that occured? Why not create a new symbol? Why are people not still offended by Germany and Germans? This is as logical as remaining offended by a symbol used wrongly by a madman.
Professor X wrote:
Oh, I think I’m doing just fine.
I know you think you are :)[/quote]
[quote]TheSicilian wrote:
I like the Horns of Odin symbol, but it does look like the Biohazard symbol. Are there symbols for Thor’s Hammer or Valhalla or some other norse gods/demigods that you are interested in???
My father and I are going to get our first tattoos together… we’re thinking something like this…[/quote]
yep this is the simbol of Sicily 
[quote]Cajun Moose wrote:
Prof X is contradicting himself. It’s typical of him. Anyone challenges him on thread and the person is automatically a racist and doesn’t know anything. It’s actually pretty sad people listen to him. It’s OK to admit your wrong once in a while. He has tendancies of an only child…always has to be right.
My parents are from Ireland and I have a tat of a celtic cross. It’s a symbol of my heritage and my religion. People come on here to say it’s racist or symbolizes skin heads is BS.
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i’m with you.
also the eagle was a nazi symbol, does it means that USA main symbol is nazi? i don’t think so…
[quote]cadav wrote:
Cajun Moose wrote:
Prof X is contradicting himself. It’s typical of him. Anyone challenges him on thread and the person is automatically a racist and doesn’t know anything. It’s actually pretty sad people listen to him. It’s OK to admit your wrong once in a while. He has tendancies of an only child…always has to be right.
My parents are from Ireland and I have a tat of a celtic cross. It’s a symbol of my heritage and my religion. People come on here to say it’s racist or symbolizes skin heads is BS.
i’m with you.
also the eagle was a nazi symbol, does it means that USA main symbol is nazi? i don’t think so…
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LOL Read this:
http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/neo-nazi_eagle_swastika.asp
The eagle ON TOP OF a swastika was a Nazi symbol, not just the eagle itself. Are you now arguing that the swastika is seen just like the symbol of an eagle? Very few symbols evoke the emotional response as that of the swastika. Unless you are going to argue against this, what exactly are you agreeing with? No one here said anything negative about a celtic cross.