T-Nation Members on Diablo III

[quote]Grimlorn wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Im pretty disappointed with the optimization of this game. It seems to slow down on my pc at random, even on low settings. And this is a system that i played mass effect 2 on with maxed out settings and witcher 2 on all high with no problem.

The gameplay itself is fun, when its not stuttering like a motherfucker, and i am not too upset about it being dumbed down since it allows you to respec for boss fights and when soloing or playing with friends, but Diablo 2 still reigns supreme. [/quote]
It’s not your computer. It’s their crappy servers. You’re playing the game on their servers. Doesn’t matter what you put the settings to. Had a friend who was trying to play hardcore, but died due to lag or being dropped from their servers. It was a terrible idea to put this game on servers.

I also hear there is a hacker problem with people getting their accounts stolen or something.[/quote]

Yeah, thats what i was complaining about. playing with 2 other people is basically impossible as the lag renders it unplayable. And yeah, ive heard tons of problems about hackers.

Heres a great article i read last night that makes a lot of sense as to why D3 sucks so much compared to other Blizzard games.

Seriously, all i keep thinking is how the hell is Titan Quest such a funner hack n’ slash RPG, and that shit came out like 5 years ago.

DH/Wiz have been nerfed already Phygrian.

Grimiorn - computer definitely does effect performance. I bought a new comp for this and the out of the box graphics card made it so it was unplayable almost with lag issues. I went and got a new graphics card (nothing spectacular) and some more RAM and now have zero problem with lag. So while servers can be finicky for sure and overloaded at times, components quality definitely make a huge difference.

Regarding the accounts stolen etc. that may be happening but it’s happening on the user side not blizzard side. If it happened on blizzard side then you’d start hearing about a lot of credit cards being charged. Let’s face it, people aren’t going to hack Blizzards network, face the potential for years in jail for some e-gold.

got to level 60 with barb, inferno is fucking impossible, you cant tank anyone, 1 shot and u’r dead.

basically at this point its just a gold mine game. u cant do shit in inferno unless you have a few mil worth o gear.

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
DH/Wiz have been nerfed already Phygrian.

Grimiorn - computer definitely does effect performance. I bought a new comp for this and the out of the box graphics card made it so it was unplayable almost with lag issues. I went and got a new graphics card (nothing spectacular) and some more RAM and now have zero problem with lag. So while servers can be finicky for sure and overloaded at times, components quality definitely make a huge difference.

Regarding the accounts stolen etc. that may be happening but it’s happening on the user side not blizzard side. If it happened on blizzard side then you’d start hearing about a lot of credit cards being charged. Let’s face it, people aren’t going to hack Blizzards network, face the potential for years in jail for some e-gold.[/quote]

Are you on Blizzards payroll?

And no shit computer effects performance, but even on low settings i get the same lag and FPS drop as i do on high settings, that is obviously not an issue with my graphics card. And as i stated before, i play Witcher 2 on high graphics settings no problem and Starcraft 2 maxed out, Diablo 3 should not tax my computer half as much as it does.

The game is boring, the article i posted sums up everything there is to say about it. Diablo II is my favorite pc game of all time, im not just being a hater, i really wanted this to be an amazing game.

Hope to god Torchlight 2 is better (and its looking like it will be)

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
DH/Wiz have been nerfed already Phygrian.

Grimiorn - computer definitely does effect performance. I bought a new comp for this and the out of the box graphics card made it so it was unplayable almost with lag issues. I went and got a new graphics card (nothing spectacular) and some more RAM and now have zero problem with lag. So while servers can be finicky for sure and overloaded at times, components quality definitely make a huge difference.[/quote]

Yeah I took that into consideration when he said he could play a few other new games on max settings. Obviously your PC can have problems if you don’t meet the requirements to play it, but when you can play games with more demanding PC requirements at highest settings and you’re having trouble with a game on servers. It’s the problem with the servers not your PC.

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
DH/Wiz have been nerfed already Phygrian.

Grimiorn - computer definitely does effect performance. I bought a new comp for this and the out of the box graphics card made it so it was unplayable almost with lag issues. I went and got a new graphics card (nothing spectacular) and some more RAM and now have zero problem with lag. So while servers can be finicky for sure and overloaded at times, components quality definitely make a huge difference.

Regarding the accounts stolen etc. that may be happening but it’s happening on the user side not blizzard side. If it happened on blizzard side then you’d start hearing about a lot of credit cards being charged. Let’s face it, people aren’t going to hack Blizzards network, face the potential for years in jail for some e-gold.[/quote]

Are you on Blizzards payroll?

And no shit computer effects performance, but even on low settings i get the same lag and FPS drop as i do on high settings, that is obviously not an issue with my graphics card. And as i stated before, i play Witcher 2 on high graphics settings no problem and Starcraft 2 maxed out, Diablo 3 should not tax my computer half as much as it does.

The game is boring, the article i posted sums up everything there is to say about it. Diablo II is my favorite pc game of all time, im not just being a hater, i really wanted this to be an amazing game.

Hope to god Torchlight 2 is better (and its looking like it will be)
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I think the article was deleted because looks like topic was deleted from Diablo 3’s forums.

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
DH/Wiz have been nerfed already Phygrian.

Grimiorn - computer definitely does effect performance. I bought a new comp for this and the out of the box graphics card made it so it was unplayable almost with lag issues. I went and got a new graphics card (nothing spectacular) and some more RAM and now have zero problem with lag. So while servers can be finicky for sure and overloaded at times, components quality definitely make a huge difference.

Regarding the accounts stolen etc. that may be happening but it’s happening on the user side not blizzard side. If it happened on blizzard side then you’d start hearing about a lot of credit cards being charged. Let’s face it, people aren’t going to hack Blizzards network, face the potential for years in jail for some e-gold.[/quote]

Are you on Blizzards payroll?

And no shit computer effects performance, but even on low settings i get the same lag and FPS drop as i do on high settings, that is obviously not an issue with my graphics card. And as i stated before, i play Witcher 2 on high graphics settings no problem and Starcraft 2 maxed out, Diablo 3 should not tax my computer half as much as it does.

The game is boring, the article i posted sums up everything there is to say about it. Diablo II is my favorite pc game of all time, im not just being a hater, i really wanted this to be an amazing game.

Hope to god Torchlight 2 is better (and its looking like it will be)
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diablo 3 runs my gpu 100% when i exit to main menu and 40% when in game with 60000 mobs. game code is fucked up.

Yeah, i know people that run it OK with inferior rigs to mine, but ive also talked to people who’s PC’s are literally like twice as good as mine and they have trouble even at lower settings as well.

At the end of the day though, the thing that really did it for me was the loot and AH system. They took the best, most addictive, and most satisfying part of diablo II and ruined it, turning the game into an MMO gold grind.

Wtf

Here is the forum post i had linked to earlier that got deleted, you will not find a better argument as to why Diablo III is such a disappointment in many people’s opinions. It makes a shit ton of sense, which is surprising coming from anything posted on the Diablo forums:

"Well I have to applaud Blizzard in all reality. From a business stand point it would seem like you’re on the perfect track to make the shareholders at Activision very, very pleased.

You’ve taken a game with so much hype built around it, a game with a rabid and wildly large fan base, a game vaulting off of the massive success of the previous generation - and you’ve turned it into your sacrificial lamb.

I understand that WoW is dying. The cash cow that you have been able to depend on to fill your coffers is finally drying up. It had a great run. MoP is not likely to defibrillate the failing heart of what was once the WoW empire, and you know this. Starcraft 2, while an amazing game, cannot replace this cash cow - then again it wasn’t meant to. How could it? Your business foresight is very, very attuned. Because of this you carefully planned your next chess move: Diablo 3.

What better way to birth another golden goose than to bank an entire game off of the most addictive part of what Diablo 2 was: the item grind. Pure brilliance. And so, from the ground up, you formed this game to be solely about item exchange - this would be the titan built to replace WoW’s subscription based bankroll in the form of micro transactions.

Except one thing: you’re boring.

On May 15th 2012, after nearly a decade of anticipation, we were given Diablo 3! Except, it’s not quite Diablo 3. It’s a slimmed down, cut up version of the Diablo 3 everyone was taught to expect. Except, it wasn’t given to us, we still had to pay you full price for it: $60.

My how the mighty hath fallen. Why is it not Diablo 3, you say? Well let’s see. Anyone remember all those teaser videos spoon fed to the community over the past 3 years? Videos slowly leaking to us glimpses of the content we could expect to experience? I do.

From nearly FOUR years ago:

@2:10 “These current weapons just won’t do!”:

I guess scrapping this idea all together was more developmentally cost effective.

@6:30 “Let’s see what a real fight looks like.”

Indeed, lets. I’m still waiting, actually. Is it just me or does that environment look entirely more engaging than the atmosphere we’ve purchased at release?

@2:00 Did he say randomized, dungeons, quests and encounters?

If their idea of newly generated fights, quests and environments is a continuous cycle of the same things from a pre-conceived list, he’s spot on!

So where’s the beef? - some might say. The beef is that this is not Diablo 3, this is an imposter. A hologram. An artificial replacement. A lame duck substitute for what hype built it up to be. A cut up and slimmed down version of what should have been. In essence: a slaughtered, sacrificial lamb.

That leaves myself and thousands of others saying indeed, where is the beef? Blizzard’s answer: there is no cow level. But hey, we got rainbows and unicorns!

Is anyone still in complete denial about how truly boring this game is or have people started to shake off the honey moon dust?

You eliminated enchanting, PvP, pet companions and other things from the release version so that you could market it as part of a later expansion for more money. (This is a trend in gaming that several developers have been following; withhold content you’ve been advertising for the past two years and charge a premium for it at a later date. I shouldn’t have expected Activision-Blizzard to be any different, and that is my fault. I wrongly assumed this group was made of trend setters and leaders, not followers - so shame on me.)

You didn’t include a single player mode because you can’t make money off of people if they aren’t using the AH in a multiplayer format. Less work for you in the development stages, and forces people to engage in the micro-economy that your bankroll is based on. Again, brilliance. Which leads me to my final point:

There is so LITTLE dynamic to this game I cannot believe it took this many years to create it. In fact, I don’t. So why the long wait? I’ll tell you: economic law.

More specifically, the legality and complications that stemmed from the idea of a multinational game built around a Real Money Auction House. This process, I imagine, took years to iron out - while the game itself probably took no more than a few actual working years to complete (and it truly shows).

It doesn’t take an overly intelligent mind to figure WHY they would want to use a RMAH and get a cut of (a lot of) the transactions. That’s fine. Here’s the problem: you built the entire game around a pure gear grind, and then force that gear grind to revolve around the AH, specifically the RMAH. There is literally no other dynamic. When you build a game from a purely business stand point, you’re not building a great game - and a great game this is not.

In conclusion, gamers, do you really want to spend your time on yet another slave-like gear grind? If so, eat your heart out. You’ll find no better place to do it! If not, there are a plethora of other games out there much more deserving of your $60, I promise.

Diablo 3 was built around Activision’s greed. Participate at your own will.

Gamers hold grudges and people aren’t going to forget this disaster. If you obliterate your true fan base, the pillars of your success come falling soon after.

I give this post less than a few hours before it is deleted by Blizzard moderators. Can’t have that bad flavor out there, can we? Truth hurts.

Regards, a long time fan."

Spot on.^^^^^ It’s just crazy that I’ve come back to D2 LOD over and over again since 6th grade, and I’ve played D3 for less than 2 weeks, and am already bored. I haven’t touched it in 2 days. Such a shame.

Any other good PC games out right now?

Not that i can think of. If you havent played The Witcher 2 and have a rig that can run it, that is probably the most recent PC game i have played that was fuckin awesome.

And yeah, i havent been on Diablo in 2 days now, even when im bored ive been filling my time with tower defense games on my asus transformer tablet as i find them more entertaining than Diablo 3. Sad…

Guess its back to Starcraft II to hold me over until heart of the swarm or torchlight 2 comes out.

Yea it has been pretty disappointing for me thus far as well… Even only having played for (at most) 5 hours or so.

Back to waiting for GW2!

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Not that i can think of. If you havent played The Witcher 2 and have a rig that can run it, that is probably the most recent PC game i have played that was fuckin awesome. [/quote]

I have to agree. The Witcher 2 was the most highly underrated(undersold/undermarketed) game I have ever played.

I’ve heard lots of good things about the Witcher 2, I’ll check it out.

[quote]Anonymity wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Not that i can think of. If you havent played The Witcher 2 and have a rig that can run it, that is probably the most recent PC game i have played that was fuckin awesome. [/quote]

I have to agree. The Witcher 2 was the most highly underrated(undersold/undermarketed) game I have ever played.[/quote]

I blame Vader.

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
DH/Wiz have been nerfed already Phygrian.

Grimiorn - computer definitely does effect performance. I bought a new comp for this and the out of the box graphics card made it so it was unplayable almost with lag issues. I went and got a new graphics card (nothing spectacular) and some more RAM and now have zero problem with lag. So while servers can be finicky for sure and overloaded at times, components quality definitely make a huge difference.

Regarding the accounts stolen etc. that may be happening but it’s happening on the user side not blizzard side. If it happened on blizzard side then you’d start hearing about a lot of credit cards being charged. Let’s face it, people aren’t going to hack Blizzards network, face the potential for years in jail for some e-gold.[/quote]

Are you on Blizzards payroll?

And no shit computer effects performance, but even on low settings i get the same lag and FPS drop as i do on high settings, that is obviously not an issue with my graphics card. And as i stated before, i play Witcher 2 on high graphics settings no problem and Starcraft 2 maxed out, Diablo 3 should not tax my computer half as much as it does.

The game is boring, the article i posted sums up everything there is to say about it. Diablo II is my favorite pc game of all time, im not just being a hater, i really wanted this to be an amazing game.

Hope to god Torchlight 2 is better (and its looking like it will be)
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No far from being on blizzards payroll. Yes there are issues with the game undoubtedly. I just think everyone is getting way too massively butthurt over it all. Diablo 2 was pretty rough when it was originally released and it took quite a few updates to make it the gem that we all know and love.

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
DH/Wiz have been nerfed already Phygrian.

Grimiorn - computer definitely does effect performance. I bought a new comp for this and the out of the box graphics card made it so it was unplayable almost with lag issues. I went and got a new graphics card (nothing spectacular) and some more RAM and now have zero problem with lag. So while servers can be finicky for sure and overloaded at times, components quality definitely make a huge difference.

Regarding the accounts stolen etc. that may be happening but it’s happening on the user side not blizzard side. If it happened on blizzard side then you’d start hearing about a lot of credit cards being charged. Let’s face it, people aren’t going to hack Blizzards network, face the potential for years in jail for some e-gold.[/quote]

Are you on Blizzards payroll?

And no shit computer effects performance, but even on low settings i get the same lag and FPS drop as i do on high settings, that is obviously not an issue with my graphics card. And as i stated before, i play Witcher 2 on high graphics settings no problem and Starcraft 2 maxed out, Diablo 3 should not tax my computer half as much as it does.

The game is boring, the article i posted sums up everything there is to say about it. Diablo II is my favorite pc game of all time, im not just being a hater, i really wanted this to be an amazing game.

Hope to god Torchlight 2 is better (and its looking like it will be)
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No far from being on blizzards payroll. Yes there are issues with the game undoubtedly. I just think everyone is getting way too massively butthurt over it all. Diablo 2 was pretty rough when it was originally released and it took quite a few updates to make it the gem that we all know and love. [/quote]

Blizzard has basically indicated that they have no intention of changing anything major other than some hot fixes.

The game needs some major changes.

Is it a terrible game? Hell no. I would say it is above average. The problem is that other Blizzard games and Diablo II especially were well above average, they were amazing. People expected a sequel almost a decade in the making to be at least as good as its predecessor, not a step backwards. So yeah, its gonna get some harsh reaction even though it is not a bad game.

I’ll be reinstalling D2: LoD after I finish D3, I have friends that are playing so I want to do the group play aspect of the game.

There were a bunch of people defending the sloppy/ lag ridden release on blizzards forums, ridiculous. They choose to make the game online only, they know it sells several million copies very quickly and they still fumble the release. Since I have a job I could only play after work and I couldn’t play for the first 2-3 days of the release.

Couldn’t get into SC2 and I was a SC and WC junkie since they came out. I’ll check out this Witcher 2 if my upgraded macbook can run it.

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Any other good PC games out right now?[/quote]

Welcome to EVE Online. Here’s your Rubix Cube, now go fuck yourself.

[quote]grettiron wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Any other good PC games out right now?[/quote]

Welcome to EVE Online. Here’s your Rubix Cube, now go fuck yourself.
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LOL