T-Cell Alpha

[quote]Mod Laurie wrote:
pushharder wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
All right. It’s getting to be painfully obvious that ARL and HH are the same person. The facts:

  1. Both make frequent doom and gloom postings in PWI.

  2. Both are on this thread bashing T-Alpha

  3. Both are into Ayn Rand

  4. They have similar - nay, identical - writing styles.

The mods know. And some of us know the mods.

  1. True

  2. True

  3. True

  4. True

What Push said— True and True

:)[/quote]

Which is about as pathetic as you can get on this site yet some of these idiots actually stand up for this troll.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Christine wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Does anyone post in there anymore? Does anyone even read the thing? Or is it stagnant? Just curious…

The Politics forum is slow today, isn’t it.

Are you and AnnRandLuvr really one and the same?

No. He and I are members of the Ayn Rand Institute and e-mail friends. He is a little more crazy than me — for ex, he thinks Steve Fossett (the billionaire who disappeared) is now in the real Galt’s Gulch. He IS a little demented at times. (j/k ARL!!)

http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=index

[/quote]

Galt’s Gulch - you mean like a place where intelligent, insightful, honest people can do what needs to be done without the leeching bitches dragging them down? That kind of reminds me of . . . .oh! Hmmmm . . . . .

[quote]Professor X wrote:
[…]

Judging by the number of views on the average thread in the Political Forum, there are SIGNIFICANTLY LESS people who even read that forum than who were reading the Bodybuilding forum before the T-Cell was created.

Taking it further, there was also a huge number of people infecting the bodybuilding forum who apparently HATED bodybuilding. There was thread after thread of “I don’t want to be big” to the point that ZERO actual discussion of bodybuilding could take place without several people destroying the thread with that same nonsense.

The Political Forum has never seen anything like that. Yet, the trolls the political forum does have are exactly why many people have STOPPED posting in that forum regularly.

So, please, explain to me why you would rather viewership decrease than simply allowing a way for those serious about topics to make threads without the interruptions from those who don’t even like what the entire forum is supposed to be about?

Since when has anyone started several threads in the Political forum about how they hate political discussions?

Ever?[/quote]

We’ve discussed that before - I still disagree. But maybe I have more faith in the self-regulatory powers of an internet forum on which I’ve ‘met’ some intelligent and kind people.

I certainly wouldn’t want that - it would feel quite wrong to me to ‘cleanse’ a forum where people discuss their political and societal views and leanings. It frightens me to think who would volunteer as a sheriff for doing that job.

[quote]Ignoring the worst was simply allowing it to grow. Ignoring the worst was making it so no serious bodybuilding/weight-lifting posters would have remained on this site at all. Somehow, that makes more sense to you.

Nothing else really needs to be said.[/quote]

Maybe - I still though think that keeping idiots, trolls and silly noobs at bay is mostly the moderators’ job. If it’s in Biotest’s interest to moderate out a specific climate in a specific forum, so they could have.

They didn’t - they chose an alternative which enabled them to keep the cake - and eat it. I fail to see this is a victory for the ‘serious’ lifters - it was a good business decision, nothing much else.

Makkun

[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Christine wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Does anyone post in there anymore? Does anyone even read the thing? Or is it stagnant? Just curious…

The Politics forum is slow today, isn’t it.

Are you and AnnRandLuvr really one and the same?

No. He and I are members of the Ayn Rand Institute and e-mail friends. He is a little more crazy than me — for ex, he thinks Steve Fossett (the billionaire who disappeared) is now in the real Galt’s Gulch. He IS a little demented at times. (j/k ARL!!)

http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=index

Galt’s Gulch - you mean like a place where intelligent, insightful, honest people can do what needs to be done without the leeching bitches dragging them down? That kind of reminds me of . . . .oh! Hmmmm . . . . .

[/quote]

ironic,huh

[quote]Makavali wrote:
Renton wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Someone who had the time might find it interesting to draw up a spreadsheet or graph and chart HH’s rumblings/grumblings/fumblings on this subject and compare them to his E2 levels.

Makavali will be along soon. He’s a sad loser with the time on his hands to do that.

Can’t. Busy masturbating.

BRB.[/quote]

LMAO!

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Brant_Drake wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Christine wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Does anyone post in there anymore? Does anyone even read the thing? Or is it stagnant? Just curious…

The Politics forum is slow today, isn’t it.

Are you and AnnRandLuvr really one and the same?

No. He and I are members of the Ayn Rand Institute and e-mail friends. He is a little more crazy than me — for ex, he thinks Steve Fossett (the billionaire who disappeared) is now in the real Galt’s Gulch. He IS a little demented at times. (j/k ARL!!)

http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=index

Galt’s Gulch - you mean like a place where intelligent, insightful, honest people can do what needs to be done without the leeching bitches dragging them down? That kind of reminds me of . . . .oh! Hmmmm . . . . .

ironic,huh[/quote]

yep

[quote]makkun wrote:

We’ve discussed that before - I still disagree. But maybe I have more faith in the self-regulatory powers of an internet forum on which I’ve ‘met’ some intelligent and kind people.[/quote]

You apparently have no faith in your own eyesight or you could see the several threads in the Political Forum that now have less than 100 views with most threads barely making it to 500.

That has to be the lowest level of interest since it was formed. Your “self regulatory” faith seems to be out of order.

You apparently also can’t see how a similar effect would have been seen on this site as a whole if we could have no longer even held a discussion about The Olympia contest without being overrun with posts from people who hate muscles.

In that scenario, there is nothing for the mods to regulate. Unless you are saying that they should work even harder at censoring posts. You don’t even seem to have a firm hold on your own beliefs if you are claiming that is the direction it should have gone.

[quote]

Maybe - I still though think that keeping idiots, trolls and silly noobs at bay is mostly the moderators’ job. If it’s in Biotest’s interest to moderate out a specific climate in a specific forum, so they could have.

They didn’t - they chose an alternative which enabled them to keep the cake - and eat it. I fail to see this is a victory for the ‘serious’ lifters - it was a good business decision, nothing much else.

Makkun[/quote]

The only victory for us would be if this site decided to avoid going completely overboard with the mainstream diluted world that the gym scene has become and remained true to a more “hardcore” portion of the community. Since that won’t happen, we take what we can get.

What we did NOT do was sit back and let those retards take over the site…yet.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Mod Laurie wrote:
pushharder wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
All right. It’s getting to be painfully obvious that ARL and HH are the same person. The facts:

  1. Both make frequent doom and gloom postings in PWI.

  2. Both are on this thread bashing T-Alpha

  3. Both are into Ayn Rand

  4. They have similar - nay, identical - writing styles.

The mods know. And some of us know the mods.

  1. True

  2. True

  3. True

  4. True

What Push said— True and True

:slight_smile:

Which is about as pathetic as you can get on this site yet some of these idiots actually stand up for this troll.

[/quote]

Holy smoke.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think “elite”, “pompous” or “Ivory Tower” people would be here trying to explain what “TCA” is all about.

They simply wouldn’t give a damn what the “common” folk thought or felt. (The highest of sarcasm meant).

Prof, I and many others have a record of not only posting, but SUPPORTING the site…and doing all we could do to make it better.

When I find myself (God forbid) only trolling and finding fault with anything and everything about the Site, then I’m gone.

Mufasa

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:

Holy smoke.
[/quote]

Wait…that surprised you? You actually thought HH wasn’t prone to things like that?

The only thing interesting about HH or any character he creates…is that several people on this forum seem to actually not be able to tell how much of a troll he is.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
I could be wrong, but I don’t think “elite”, “pompous” or “Ivory Tower” people would be here trying to explain what “TCA” is all about.

They simply wouldn’t give a damn what the “common” folk thought or felt. (The highest of sarcasm meant).

Prof, I and many others have a record of not only posting, but SUPPORTING the site…and doing all we could do to make it better.

When I find myself (God forbid) only trolling and finding fault with anything and everything about the Site, then I’m gone.

Mufasa[/quote]

Well said. The primary posters in that forum have a long history on this site of helping other people with advice much better than simply quoting an article word for word.

The people complaining the most are also the ones I could NOT say the same about.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

Holy smoke.

Wait…that surprised you? You actually thought HH wasn’t prone to things like that?

The only thing interesting about HH or any character he creates…is that several people on this forum seem to actually not be able to tell how much of a troll he is.

[/quote]

I think it’s pretty clear he has mental problems brought on by reading Prison Planet too much. I’m being serious. What I can’t believe is that he got outed so quickly. The fact that he’s teaching children is worrisome, though maybe not unsurprising given some of the teachers I’ve had.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

Holy smoke.

Wait…that surprised you? You actually thought HH wasn’t prone to things like that?

The only thing interesting about HH or any character he creates…is that several people on this forum seem to actually not be able to tell how much of a troll he is.

I think it’s pretty clear he has mental problems brought on by reading Prison Planet too much. I’m being serious. What I can’t believe is that he got outed so quickly. The fact that he’s teaching children is worrisome, though maybe not unsurprising given some of the teachers I’ve had. [/quote]

I think the fact that anyone believes anything he writes…including him being a teacher…is worrisome.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
…I think it’s pretty clear he has mental problems…

I’ve suggested this in the past and I think some thought I was just unduly picking on him.
[/quote]

Most of the drama in the T-Cell centered around him being kept out…as if anyone in their right mind at this point would think he should be let in to begin with.

I just wonder why the hell so few others could see it until now and why they think long term members can’t figure this shit out quickly.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
[…]
You apparently have no faith in your own eyesight or you could see the several threads in the Political Forum that now have less than 100 views with most threads barely making it to 500.

That has to be the lowest level of interest since it was formed. Your “self regulatory” faith seems to be out of order.[/quote]

I have no problem with the view counts in Politics and World Issues. They go up, they go down - so far the forum hasn’t starved yet. Self-regulation seems to go just fine.

[quote]You apparently also can’t see how a similar effect would have been seen on this site as a whole if we could have no longer even held a discussion about The Olympia contest without being overrun with posts from people who hate muscles.

In that scenario, there is nothing for the mods to regulate. Unless you are saying that they should work even harder at censoring posts. You don’t even seem to have a firm hold on your own beliefs if you are claiming that is the direction it should have gone.[/quote]

I have no problem being moderated by the moderators. It’s their property, I abide by their rules. I have a problem with being ‘moderated’ by other members, based on their idea of my worthyness to post in a specific area.

[quote][…] The only victory for us would be if this site decided to avoid going completely overboard with the mainstream diluted world that the gym scene has become and remained true to a more “hardcore” portion of the community. Since that won’t happen, we take what we can get.

What we did NOT do was sit back and let those retards take over the site…yet.[/quote]

I understand your motives - and I sympathise with the feeling. I’m just commenting on the method and the outcome. That was partly positive, partly negative.

Makkun

[quote]Professor X wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

Holy smoke.

Wait…that surprised you? You actually thought HH wasn’t prone to things like that?

The only thing interesting about HH or any character he creates…is that several people on this forum seem to actually not be able to tell how much of a troll he is.

I think it’s pretty clear he has mental problems brought on by reading Prison Planet too much. I’m being serious. What I can’t believe is that he got outed so quickly. The fact that he’s teaching children is worrisome, though maybe not unsurprising given some of the teachers I’ve had.

I think the fact that anyone believes anything he writes…including him being a teacher…is worrisome.[/quote]

I have said many times that he’s completely delusional, and has a very loose grip on reality.

His posts are not even worth responding too.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
…I think it’s pretty clear he has mental problems…

I’ve suggested this in the past and I think some thought I was just unduly picking on him.
[/quote]

I don’t think anyone is arguing with you now.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think the fact that anyone believes anything he writes…including him being a teacher…is worrisome. [/quote]
For the record, I never believed him when he said he was leaving. I also thought he and ARL were the same.

Think of him like Lawry’s seasoned salt - he adds a certain, er, flavor to the board.