ive been doing a little research on sustanon 250, and im just curious as to when one would start the pct for it. the longest halflife of the 4 is 15-21 days from my research. if the pct is nolva and a chlomid, how long should one wait to start the pct after the last injection?
and also, i am correct in saying a chlomid gets your nuts back?
Havn’t we already decided you are too young for AAS, and that you dont need that assistance right now? Therefore this question shouldn’t matter to you. and by “a chlomid” im assuming you mean dosing clomiphine citrate AKA clomid. You can’t just take “A” clomid and restore your natural testosterone production.
Usually one would choose either Clomid or Nolva (most prefer Nolva as some emotion issues sometimes occur with clomid) which requires usually around 4 weeks with a tapering dose.
Also, quit making yourself sound so uneducated by saying things like “get your nuts back”
[quote]Game_over wrote:
Havn’t we already decided you are too young for AAS, and that you dont need that assistance right now? Therefore this question shouldn’t matter to you. and by “a chlomid” im assuming you mean dosing clomiphine citrate AKA clomid. You can’t just take “A” clomid and restore your natural testosterone production.
Usually one would choose either Clomid or Nolva (most prefer Nolva as some emotion issues sometimes occur with clomid) which requires usually around 4 weeks with a tapering dose.
Also, quit making yourself sound so uneducated by saying things like “get your nuts back”[/quote]
the first two sentences of yours is probably the dumbest thing ive ever herd, just becuase im “too young” to start doesnt mean i shouldnt get my facts straight now, ass. and as far as i know chlomid and nolva are two completely diff things. a nolva effects the E reseptors in breast tissue only, clomid does the same thing AND also helps begin natural T production again, aka " brings your nuts back." that would be called slang Mr. harvard graduate.
so onto the point. why can you not take just “A” clomid to restore production, and once again i repeat my first question WHEN does one start the post cycle after the last injection of sust?
the point of this post was for me not to get bashed, it was for me to learn, so if i was taking sust 250 and needed some help i think that last thing i would be looking for was some bullshit saying that im too young, how the hell would that help me if i had already started?
[quote]Dylanj wrote:
Game_over wrote:
Havn’t we already decided you are too young for AAS, and that you dont need that assistance right now? Therefore this question shouldn’t matter to you. and by “a chlomid” im assuming you mean dosing clomiphine citrate AKA clomid. You can’t just take “A” clomid and restore your natural testosterone production.
Usually one would choose either Clomid or Nolva (most prefer Nolva as some emotion issues sometimes occur with clomid) which requires usually around 4 weeks with a tapering dose.
Also, quit making yourself sound so uneducated by saying things like “get your nuts back”
the first two sentences of yours is probably the dumbest thing ive ever herd, just becuase im “too young” to start doesnt mean i shouldnt get my facts straight now, ass. and as far as i know chlomid and nolva are two completely diff things. a nolva effects the E reseptors in breast tissue only, clomid does the same thing AND also helps begin natural T production again, aka " brings your nuts back." that would be called slang Mr. harvard graduate.
so onto the point. why can you not take just “A” clomid to restore production, and once again i repeat my first question WHEN does one start the post cycle after the last injection of sust?
the point of this post was for me not to get bashed, it was for me to learn, so if i was taking sust 250 and needed some help i think that last thing i would be looking for was some bullshit saying that im too young, how the hell would that help me if i had already started?[/quote]
Ummm…have you already started?
Also, Dylan, have you considered that it is possible that the way you pose your questions leads the majority of members of this site to assume that you have every intention of starting AAS as soon as possible (if you haven’t already)? Because I don’t know if you do or not, but it does appear that way from your posts.
Your posts don’t seem to have that “just looking” vibe to them. And I think that is the reason you get jumped on more often than not over here. And if that really is the case, the members here, who have taken time and concern to offer advice, are receiving a slap in the face in return.
If I am wrong I apologize, but it is also your responsibility to express yourself in a manner that reassures us enough to want to help you.
thats becuase most of my previous posts on this forum havnt been “just looking” haha, but this one is.
i have not started nor do a plan on starting till my mid 20s im just very curious as to the science of it all. and the idea behind sust really intrueges me, its original use of a trt becuase of the 4 esters is a really neat idea.
i think my question is a valid one, considering the 4 esters when should one start the pct after the last injection, and im also curious to know why i couldnt just do a CLOMID (thanks game) and a nolva.
not trying to piss anyone off but, if you asked a straight forward question and were looking for a straight forward answer in return how would you feel if you got an answer that has no point to it, the only point to their “answer” was to make me feel like a 4 yr old with a dunce cap on with my nose smooshed into the corner.
my question still remains unanswered haha.
First off, Clomid and Nolva act in a similar fashion. It’s just that Nolva acts mainly in breast tissue, whereas Clomid acts throughout most of the body. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that Nolva is COMPLETELY localized to breast tissue, but it acts much more exclusively on breast tissue. This leads to less of the emotional side-effects.
This basically means that both Clomid AND Nolva “get yo nuts back, gangsta,” so don’t go thinking that’s an attribute held solely by Clomid - any SERM will help restore HPTA function.
Second off, I understand your question. But I don’t understand why you would even consider Sustanon as a viable test base in a cycle. As you mentioned, the fact that it combines 4 different esters makes it much harder to run a proper cycle. Just pick a single ester of test and stick with it. It’s not like you can’t find single estered tests out there…
Finally, please educate yourself. Take some biology/chemistry/genetics classes - it’ll pay off in the long run. Try and spell correctly, it’ll make you sound like less of the dumbass that you are. Really, your age is no excuse. Trust me on this one, I don’t think you’re any younger than I.
Dylan, Dylan, Dylan......
Good gravy man, I don’t think you should be in any way jumpin on Game to even the slightest degree dude. It’s your questioning choices that just beg for flamage. Calling Clomid “a chlomid” and assuming it recovers “yo nuts” and Nolva doesn’t, shows your “new boot” position in this game we like to play over here.
Really, I read this thread before anyone even posted and I just couldn’t bring myself to post, and I knew you were gonna get cooked a bit once again. Game wasn’t over the top with you, realize that. It really looks ridiculous the way you hang around asking specific questions about this and that, then insist you don’t want to have anything to do with them for 2 or more years etc.
I don’t know, I’m just saying don’t acting like Dylan the man with these guys, you still don’t have a clue and we all know it, while we all DO have a fucking clue, ok?
ToneBone
tone you can think w/e the fuck you want about when im going to start juicing, i honestly dont give a fuck and to all of you its really none of your business, ive been training my ass off for the past 3 years, and i would love to see another 18 yr old so absorbed into this lifestyle. i try my best to get the lingo right, i try my best to educate myself.
i am in my first semester of college, and looking forward to my science classes so that some of my questions might get answered. but for now im asking you guys, why the hel do you guys care that i am going to be juicing, its really not up to you, and i really dont like getting flamed for it.
if im going to do it why not help me do it right. now if i ask the question “am i too young for this?” then i would expect to hear the answer “YES!” but i have not once asked that fucking question.
all im asking is when should the pct be taken for a sust after the last injection. its a very simple question with a very simple answer, so you can either answer the acualy question i ASKED or you can just not respond to this, i know i probably pissed some of you off, but if you want me to start doing things right try giving me constructive critisism instead of getting on my ass about retarded things like how to spell clomid. correct me on the nolva dont drag it out and completely steal my post.
i am still wondering when a pct should be taken after the last injection of sust.
AHHH Tone watch out bro its PRE_roid rage! Oh and BTW we care when you start because we dont want fuck-ups messing themselves up and putting a bad rep upon those of us that use and use intelligently, and we’re generally a nice group of guys that dont wanna see anyone hurt themselves, buuuut in your case your too ignorant to help.
id advise no post cycle theropy considering how sustanon sucks anyway. and in the future dont post a thread if you dont want our opinion, and your not going to get anywhere cutting on guys like tone. Matter of fact i think he is prob one of the nicest guys on here, and someone you could have learned a lot from. tisk tisk
lol 3 weeks
[quote]Dylanj wrote:
tone you can think w/e the fuck you want about when im going to start juicing, i honestly dont give a fuck and to all of you its really none of your business, ive been training my ass off for the past 3 years, and i would love to see another 18 yr old so absorbed into this lifestyle. i try my best to get the lingo right, i try my best to educate myself.
i am in my first semester of college, and looking forward to my science classes so that some of my questions might get answered. but for now im asking you guys, why the hel do you guys care that i am going to be juicing, its really not up to you, and i really dont like getting flamed for it.
if im going to do it why not help me do it right. now if i ask the question “am i too young for this?” then i would expect to hear the answer “YES!” but i have not once asked that fucking question.
all im asking is when should the pct be taken for a sust after the last injection. its a very simple question with a very simple answer, so you can either answer the acualy question i ASKED or you can just not respond to this, i know i probably pissed some of you off, but if you want me to start doing things right try giving me constructive critisism instead of getting on my ass about retarded things like how to spell clomid. correct me on the nolva dont drag it out and completely steal my post.
i am still wondering when a pct should be taken after the last injection of sust.[/quote]
You're a fucking punk you know that?
You hang around here for a few months and now you’re talking to people who have helped you like we’re a bunch of pussys and you’re the man? Fuck off you little piece of shit. A few guys praised your dumb ass saying you had great genetics and this and that, and all of a sudden now, you try to get all bad ass on anyone who says anything you don’t want to hear. You are so ignorant it’s funny.
Nobody here, not Game, nor I nor anyone else came down on you very hard, you’re just a little bitch who complains like you’re on the rag 24/7. Go on with your bad ass, “I work at GNC, huh,huh, and get deals on cool supps man”…
Go get "a chlomid" and call it a day douschebag.
Dylanj , you sound like guys from my gym 
(Ignorant fags)
Dylan,
We were all rather happy that you decided to hold off on starting any steroids in the first place as you obviously lack the maturity necessary to even think about them.
With this attitude you seem to have recently acquired, pretty soon your posts just wont get answers.
If you were just to do more research on your own you could have very simply figured out your own answer.
Its a very simple one, after the longest ester clears your body.
And a clomid wont help you much. A week or two maybe.
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Dylanj wrote:
tone you can think w/e the fuck you want about when im going to start juicing, i honestly dont give a fuck and to all of you its really none of your business, ive been training my ass off for the past 3 years, and i would love to see another 18 yr old so absorbed into this lifestyle. i try my best to get the lingo right, i try my best to educate myself.
i am in my first semester of college, and looking forward to my science classes so that some of my questions might get answered. but for now im asking you guys, why the hel do you guys care that i am going to be juicing, its really not up to you, and i really dont like getting flamed for it.
if im going to do it why not help me do it right. now if i ask the question “am i too young for this?” then i would expect to hear the answer “YES!” but i have not once asked that fucking question.
all im asking is when should the pct be taken for a sust after the last injection. its a very simple question with a very simple answer, so you can either answer the acualy question i ASKED or you can just not respond to this, i know i probably pissed some of you off, but if you want me to start doing things right try giving me constructive critisism instead of getting on my ass about retarded things like how to spell clomid. correct me on the nolva dont drag it out and completely steal my post.
i am still wondering when a pct should be taken after the last injection of sust.
You're a fucking punk you know that?
You hang around here for a few months and now you’re talking to people who have helped you like we’re a bunch of pussys and you’re the man? Fuck off you little piece of shit. A few guys praised your dumb ass saying you had great genetics and this and that, and all of a sudden now, you try to get all bad ass on anyone who says anything you don’t want to hear. You are so ignorant it’s funny.
Nobody here, not Game, nor I nor anyone else came down on you very hard, you’re just a little bitch who complains like you’re on the rag 24/7. Go on with your bad ass, “I work at GNC, huh,huh, and get deals on cool supps man”…
Go get "a chlomid" and call it a day douschebag.
[/quote]
how the hell am i acting like a badass, i get called a dumbass for spelling wrong and asking retarded questions, how the fuck am i supposed to learn if all i get is a bunch of bullshit and no answer, and when the hell have i ever bragged about working at gnc? all i said was that is where i get my protein becuase i do get great deals. and did i not correct myself on the clomid after i was corrected by game? this is all a learning experience for me, and to be called a punk and a douschebag that doesnt know anything is not helping a lot. all i wanted was for my question to be answered, i did not ask to be told i was too young. and oddly enough the guys on this blog who have the biggest problem with me still have yet to answer this simple question. thanks
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
Dylan,
We were all rather happy that you decided to hold off on starting any steroids in the first place as you obviously lack the maturity necessary to even think about them.
With this attitude you seem to have recently acquired, pretty soon your posts just wont get answers.
If you were just to do more research on your own you could have very simply figured out your own answer.
Its a very simple one, after the longest ester clears your body.
And a clomid wont help you much. A week or two maybe.
[/quote]
thank you for your answer, this helped me out a lot.
and why wont a clomid help me much?
[quote]Game_over wrote:
AHHH Tone watch out bro its PRE_roid rage! Oh and BTW we care when you start because we dont want fuck-ups messing themselves up and putting a bad rep upon those of us that use and use intelligently, and we’re generally a nice group of guys that dont wanna see anyone hurt themselves, buuuut in your case your too ignorant to help.
id advise no post cycle theropy considering how sustanon sucks anyway. and in the future dont post a thread if you dont want our opinion, and your not going to get anywhere cutting on guys like tone. Matter of fact i think he is prob one of the nicest guys on here, and someone you could have learned a lot from. tisk tisk [/quote]
i realize tone and you are really nice guys, but dont give me shit when it has nothing to do with my question that i asked. its very simple, i know you are all very smart about these things. personally i thought we got past the idea that im to young to be starting any gear in previous blogs. so how am i to ignorant to help? becuase you answered a question that was never asked and it pissed me off? i really dont see your logic on that one. and i also dont see your logic on the no pct for sust, just because it sucks, did i ask if it sucked? no, i asked when the pct should be given, you are really no benefit to this post, thanks.
The problem is you lack the common etiquette when posing questions and trying to receive answers.
Your lack of respect when dealing with elders and veterans automatically puts people off.
Your sentence structure and lack of capitalization makes your posts an irritant to eyeballs.
You retort with toooo much aggression/hostility.
You’re a dick.
A single clomid tab will not help you much.
Its typically taken at a rather high dose for a day or two and then 50 mg/day for the remainder of the two weeks. Or 100mg day for the first week and then 50mg/day thereafter.
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
A single clomid tab will not help you much.
Its typically taken at a rather high dose for a day or two and then 50 mg/day for the remainder of the two weeks. Or 100mg day for the first week and then 50mg/day thereafter.[/quote]
ha, yeah i figured a single tab wouldnt do anything, i thought you ment i would need more than a clomid, like hcg or something (dont really know what hcg is so dont flame me if i used it incorectly). anyway, so 200mg (or is that too high?) the first two days then for the remaining 12 days knock it down to 50mg/day. thanks again lillguy.
Ive heard up to 300mg your first day or two… followed by 50mg day from each day after.
This is what i did after my last long cycle last winter followed by a few weeks of nolva at 20mg/day. Seemed to be rather effective at the time.
btw…i do hope this is for your research purposes only.