AWESOME what youve shown us is that Surge does what its supposed to do. A crazy high insulin response to halt catabolism and be anabolic.
this is why the need for REAL food 30-45mins after the Surge.
Nice work thanks,
Phill
Hey Ben,
It’s possible that Surge may not be an appropriate supplement for you. Due to your hypoglycemia issues it may be exacerbating things.
I myself can’t handle high GI meals very well at all. Post workout I stick to my usual macro ratios as the rest of my meals 75g protein, 50g carbs, and 35g fat. After much experimentation this breakdown tends to work the best for me. Yours may be differant. You may want to try increasing your fat and protein content and lowering your carbs. See what works for you.
tom, it might be a neurotransmitter issue rather than systemic.
You know the old idea behind getting sleepy after eating turkey? This may be happening to you, and you may even have a particular sensitivity to serotonin.
Just a thought (since we’re running out of ideas).
Drinking during the workout will blunt both the insulin and protein synthetic response, but in your situation, I’d try one scoop during and one scoop after (revised from the earlier suggestion).
BTW-Your insulin sensitivity seems quite high, so unless you’re oversecreting you shouldn’t have a problem. Checking insulin levels is the next step if they weren’t measured during the OGTT.
[quote]Bri Hildebrandt wrote:
Hey Ben,
It’s possible that Surge may not be an appropriate supplement for you. Due to your hypoglycemia issues it may be exacerbating things.
I myself can’t handle high GI meals very well at all. Post workout I stick to my usual macro ratios as the rest of my meals 75g protein, 50g carbs, and 35g fat. After much experimentation this breakdown tends to work the best for me. Yours may be differant. You may want to try increasing your fat and protein content and lowering your carbs. See what works for you.[/quote]
i totally agree with this. and also with phill’s post above about getting some real food. i cycled for 10 years and ate just as you are and felt the same way. shitty. i feel waaay better now from eating stuff like whole eggs, cottage cheese, full fat yogurt, nuts, and meat early in the day. also i graze on almonds, cashews, and walnuts pretty much all day.
[quote]David Barr wrote:
So it seems that “what we’ve got here is failure to communicate” (cue the whistling).
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Cool Hand Luke. Very well done, sir.
As for the OP, it looks like your levels are getting pretty low around the time of your workout. I would suggest moving your Pre-WO shake closer to the actual workout. Within an hour would be ideal, I think. Either that, or make it a real breakfast, then have a small drink Pre-WO of some oats and protein a half hour before your workout.
If you can stabilize the levels before and during the workout, maybe you won’t get quite the drop after the Surge. Also, if eating 30 minutes after the Surge isn’t helping keep you stable, eat something small 15 minutes after, then have a full meal within an hour (I guess that would be right after class).
I’m not a scientist or doctor, but I did get the movie reference. Anyone remember how many eggs he ate?
-folly