OMG this seems to be where we are going to end up lol
Not at all. Thereās nothing manly about him. He canāt even fire people to their face.
You two may not like the traits and the lists may show them as negative, but trump fits wholely into Masculine.
Saying he is feminine is as silly to me as if you said it about me.
These seem to contradict unless Iām reading it wrong which is very possible.
For instance most of the masculine energy donāt fit Trump or itās split? I also have no idea what is meant by run or donāt exercise lift weights/contact sports. Seems like that covers a lot of ground. Trumps manly because he doesnāt exercise?
It possibly is. Do you think you have a lot in common with him? Because I realize I donāt know you in real life but the way you come off here it seems incredibly unlikely.
Hilarious. Youāre citing Geert Hofstede, the late Dutch sociologist for this? Let me guess - you randomly Googled this?
I did put that i dont find him an examplr to emulate. I wouldnt find dictators either even though they peg the masculine meter.
Im saying imo men should be civil in their masculinity and on occasion they need uto be brutal. I didnt say trump fit this, but feminine? Please look at these 3 charts.
He demonstrates the ābrutalā tendencies too much/timed wrongly, which are not needed in a civil society.
I picked 3 examples.
No matter who i picked, you would bitch about it.
See where i am going here?
No I gotcha Iām just saying Iām confused especially by the masculine energy one which to me seems like it would be different than the societies ones right? I would think we would be looking more at individual things. But heās all over on that one. Honesty, integrity, truth? Not even close. Thinking? Rationalizer? Who would describe him as that?
But some he no doubt nails in that section. Either way perhaps a senseless debate that has gone on too long. I guess when I think of ideals men should strive for (or even people really) he doesnāt hit the mark in hardly anything. If Trump is very masculine sign me up for whatever is opposite.
No, I donāt. In any event, he fails so many of the items you actually posted, he doesnāt even pass the test - honesty? Truth? Integrity? Donāt need? A huge part of his neuroticism is his crippling need for adulation.
Heās needy, whiney, thin-skinned, never accountable, takes advantage of people (especially those in a weaker position), lazy, untrustworthy, and treacherous (if it meant saving his own hide, heād sacrifice you in a second). You canāt divorce the moral requirements needed that have to be in play with all the other masculine stuff (like winning, achieving, etc.). Those things are only masculine if you do them right in a manly way, with the masculine virtues. He succeeds, sure, but with none of the things we associate with manliness - he lies, cheats, betrays, to get what he wants.
If Trump was in an a burning orphanage, heād save himself first. Heās the opposite of a man.
Add to that his physical limitations - overweight, couldnāt do five pushups if he tried, and couldnāt physically protect anyone even if he wanted to.
I cant disagree with your points. But you are saying these unattractive qualities are feminine? Lazy, takes advantage, self serving are not some feminine only qualities.
Assholish but plenty of otherwise masculine box checker has these admittedly negative traits.
That is what l read in your argument
I guess my bottom line is up until the last few years, most men were masculine.
Obviously on a continuum.
That didnāt mean they were examples l aspired to for being a āmanā. Nor yours.
But that didnāt mean they acted feminine.
Ok gonna fly and take out my sweet wifeā¦have a good one
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No, Iām not. But remember - femininity isnāt always the opposite of manliness. More often, the opposite is childishness.
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I think Back to the Future part 2 got it about right. The writer said Biff was based on Trump.
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Theyāre effeminate as well.
Trump is responsible, tough, honest, has integrity, works out, has self control and a sense of honor?
reĀ·sponĀ·siĀ·ble
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having an obligation to do something, or having control over or care for someone, as part of oneās job or role.
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being the primary cause of something and so able to be blamed or credited for it.
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(of a job or position) involving important duties, independent decision-making, or control over others.
All three definitions apply to Trump, so yes heās responsible.
tough
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(of a substance or object) strong enough to withstand adverse conditions or rough or careless handling.
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able to endure hardship or pain.
Heās been under non stop attack from the left and most of the right for over three years and heās still here fighting and has never wavered from what he believes.
honĀ·est
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free of deceit and untruthfulness; sincere.
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morally correct or virtuous.
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fairly earned, especially through hard work
4.(of an action) blameless or well intentioned even if unsuccessful or misguided.
Irrelevant. If you can show me a single politician who fits this bill weāll talk. Number 4 is interesting though and may fit here.
inĀ·tegĀ·riĀ·ty
- the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness.
Matter of perspective. Iād argue he has very strong moral principles in regards to how he wants to leave America after his next four years are done.
honĀ·or
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high respect; great esteem.
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adherence to what is right or to a conventional standard of conduct.
You may not like him, but many do. He shows great respect to front line workers and our military. Since day one heās led with conservative values and to what he thinks is best and right for America.
self-conĀ·trol
- the ability to control oneself, in particular oneās emotions and desires or the expression of them in oneās behavior, especially in difficult situations
Oh well, nobodyās perfect.
Trump projects a masculine image. I donāt see how this can be disputed.
You know why I bet big on him at the bookies in 2016? It was because of this and the PC movement I was seeing develop. Plus his campaign ads were masterful. Seriously, from a professional POV. The potential returns from the odds against him were too good not to take the plunge.
Iām not talking about his character. He could be a little girly man inside who has pretend tea parties with his 3 sex dolls with custom made XL strap-ons alone with the tiny plastic chairs and tea cups and shit in his room for all I know.