[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
[quote]Kerley wrote:
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
Ya but how bad ass do you look with this guy by your side.[/quote]
dude that dog is gonna take you for walks[/quote]
Maybe after a couple years with him my forearms will actually see some size gains. ;)[/quote]
you and celtics can compare forearm size cause he’ll have lee priest forearms by then!
lulz
Is it a cross between a pit and bully kutta? Sorry if you already mentioned, my buddy just got a bully kutta and that thing is a monster. A cross between the two would make a freakishly strong pup.
^^Fuk that, he’ll require pictures with proper posing, tanned skin, oiled and shaved down. He has far too many requirements for me.
I’m surprised he hasn’t come here stating that he can’t accurately see how big the dogs are unless they’re doing a most muscular pose in proper lighting.
They are crosses between American Pitbull Terriers and American Staffordshire Terriers.
A mastiff and pit mix would be pretty badass I’m sure. I love bullmastiff’s, and I’m guessing a pit/ mastiff mix would look very similar to a bullmastiff.
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
^^Fuk that, he’ll require pictures with proper posing, tanned skin, oiled and shaved down. He has far too many requirements for me.
I’m surprised he hasn’t come here stating that he can’t accurately see how big the dogs are unless they’re doing a most muscular pose in proper lighting.[/quote]
LMAO
I gave clen to my first pit(took the tabs and broke them into quarters). He grew up muscular yet lean, well proportioned, exact opposite of all his sibs(they were all short legged and fat). Thought it was due to the clen and the exercising he got growing up(ran with him regularly, then let him chase water buffalo while we were stationed in Guam), then saw a pic of his dad Pokey(well known champ fighter), and he was a dead ringer.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Feed them right and you don’t really need supplements for a pet, unless you’re treating a specific condition.[/quote]
I agree.
As for my APBT, she eats yams and eggs most of the time and sometimes a bit of Purina One.
I’m actually a bit surprised that a lot of people are saying dogs don’t need supplements.
People don’t even need supplements, there are many healthy strong people in the world who have never taken supplements. But as everyone here knows supplements can help provide you with the things your diet is lacking, why wouldn’t the same apply to dogs? I mean most dogs are eating food that they were not designed to eat made by companies that do not have an FDA or any stringent governing agency monitoring quality. Imagine if the goverment started “making” all human food, and you could no longer eat chicken or meat, unless the government or big companies put it in the food they gave you. Wouldn’t you question the quality of the food being put out by said government and want to supplement your diet to get a bit more of the good stuff you know will help you put on size??
I mean so many dog foods contain veggies now, call me crazy but the only fruit or veggie I have seen dogs eat REGULARLY is grass. Some dogs are particular to certain fruits but for the most part their diet is 90% protein, yet dog food even the good ones are less then 10% protein. To me this doesn’t sound right and I think most dog foods are getting by providing as little as possible for as cheap as possible with as much profit as possible for dog food because so few people question it. Think about all the supposedly “healthy” food in markets which is filled with nothing but crap. And thats with the FDA and all the other organizations pushing for stringent guidlines and rules regarding what’s healthy. Dog food doesn’t have that so imagine how much their food must be lacking in nutrients they should be getting for OPTIMAL health.
they’re awesome they look like bears. Akita
My dog eats fish oil like it’s a treat.
Right now I’ve got a 5 year old bitch bullmastiff.
We’ve fed her Natural Choice http://www.thenutrocompany.com/index.aspx from when she was a puppy.
She’s a little underweight but were going on the advice of the vet here. They look great when they are 120#'s but it shortens their life. Right now mine weighs in at about 90-95 (hard to believe thats underweight lol).
Ya thats a bit small for a full grown bullmastiff, she should be at least 100 lbs.
I’ve ALWAYS wanted an American Mastiff… Those dogs get over 200lbs. They are the most intimidating dogs I’ve ever encountered, but very gorgeous.
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
Ya thats a bit small for a full grown bullmastiff, she should be at least 100 lbs.
I’ve ALWAYS wanted an American Mastiff… Those dogs get over 200lbs. They are the most intimidating dogs I’ve ever encountered, but very gorgeous.[/quote]
The good thing is that all her bloodwork is good, she has a good curve and you can’t see her ribs. We also think we may have received the runt by mistake, no biggie she is still a beast.
Some people pack the weight on the dogs thinking it looks good. The problem is that it shortens their life expectancy and also leads to hip and elbow problems sooner.
So if she’s a little under and we get to have our 90# lap dog around a few more years we will take that trade anyday.
[quote]UAphenix wrote:
Clipping the ears does serve a purpose with these types of breeds. When the dogs wrestle and play, they tend to bite the ears and cause them to bleed. The point of clipping the ears is to prevent that from happening.[/quote]
With the three that I have had, that was never an issue.
[quote]UAphenix wrote:
Clipping the ears does serve a purpose with these types of breeds. When the dogs wrestle and play, they tend to bite the ears and cause them to bleed. The point of clipping the ears is to prevent that from happening.[/quote]
This is untrue. It’s done solely for asthetic purposes. There is no purpose to it whatsoever. In fact, it leads to many more ear infections. I breed pitbulls by the way. Please do not refer to these “bully pits” as pitbulls. They are not. When dogs wrestle and play, they tend to bite anywhere - legs too. Should we remove the legs? The side of the face
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
http://shop.k9power.com/k9-super-fuel-1lb.html
Sweet!!! This site looks like a BBing dog’s dream come true. A $55 8lb bag of dog supps lasts over 5 months. So about $10 a month, which is definitely doable… Has creatine and just about everything else in it. Fk I might try eating this stuff. lol[/quote]
I know the man that makes it.
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
I’m actually a bit surprised that a lot of people are saying dogs don’t need supplements.
People don’t even need supplements, there are many healthy strong people in the world who have never taken supplements. But as everyone here knows supplements can help provide you with the things your diet is lacking, why wouldn’t the same apply to dogs? I mean most dogs are eating food that they were not designed to eat made by companies that do not have an FDA or any stringent governing agency monitoring quality. Imagine if the goverment started “making” all human food, and you could no longer eat chicken or meat, unless the government or big companies put it in the food they gave you. Wouldn’t you question the quality of the food being put out by said government and want to supplement your diet to get a bit more of the good stuff you know will help you put on size??
I mean so many dog foods contain veggies now, call me crazy but the only fruit or veggie I have seen dogs eat REGULARLY is grass. Some dogs are particular to certain fruits but for the most part their diet is 90% protein, yet dog food even the good ones are less then 10% protein. To me this doesn’t sound right and I think most dog foods are getting by providing as little as possible for as cheap as possible with as much profit as possible for dog food because so few people question it. Think about all the supposedly “healthy” food in markets which is filled with nothing but crap. And thats with the FDA and all the other organizations pushing for stringent guidlines and rules regarding what’s healthy. Dog food doesn’t have that so imagine how much their food must be lacking in nutrients they should be getting for OPTIMAL health.[/quote]
Because unless your dog is under stress (sick or preparing for some sort of athletic event) given his life span, no supplement is likely to make any difference in his life span or quality of life. A decent feed will do him just fine. But no amoung of common sense will convince someone that is enamored with a dog’s size and muscles. You will of course want to give him creatine and all that other stuff. And at the end of the day, it won’t make a damn difference.
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Okay, a few points; if your breed is “prone to hip and joint issues”, it’s because of the breed’s genetics, more specifically, his bloodline. Fish oil will not stop that. Only dogs with good hips should be bred. Unfortunately, in many gene pools with various breeds, this is not done. Hence, we have severe hip and joint issues in many breeds.
There are pros and cons to a raw diet. Creatine intake is the least of the pros.
Dogs do not eat deer in the wild. Rabbits yes, deer no. Only the fastest breeds can run down a deer 
Creatine is not expensive. And I see little value to adding it to a dog’s feed.
If you don’t want to bother with RAW, feed your dog a decent commercial feed and he’ll be fine. If he has hip issues, it’s b/c the hip issues are in his bloodline. There is nothing you can do about it - well, there WAS, but that time has passed; you don’t buy the pup.
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Wolves eat deer all the time. Most of the wolves I talk to prefer deer over rabbit actually… =D
http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0212280/eating.htm
Both his parents have good hips so hopefully I wont have any issues there.
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And wolves and your bully pit have what in common exactly?
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C’mon man you need to brush up on your discovery chanel.
http://www.trussel.com/prehist/news24.htm
Now some scientists don’t agree and believe that wolves and dogs are not descendents but they do all agree that their DNA is almost identical.
But that neither here nor their. I think we can both agree that dogs in the wild have a diet that consists of almost 100% raw meat, which they can get a ton of creatine from, current dog food is mostly dried chicken and tends to have a low percentage of protein and almost non-existent creatine. It’s not too difficult to believe that dogs could be stronger and faster if they were taking in more creatine as they did in the wild.[/quote]
Thanks for schooling me. I’ve only been breeding pitbulls for 15 years. I was a former contributing author to the American Game Dog Times. I’m currently involved with a fledgling canine magazine and supplement company. I’ve also owned and hunted with those dogo argentino’s for 12 years that you liked so much. But thanks I’ll check in with the Discovery channel ASAP.
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
They are crosses between American Pitbull Terriers and American Staffordshire Terriers.
A mastiff and pit mix would be pretty badass I’m sure. I love bullmastiff’s, and I’m guessing a pit/ mastiff mix would look very similar to a bullmastiff.[/quote]
Mastiff and pit mix is cane corso. Yes they are badass.
V
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
[quote]UAphenix wrote:
Clipping the ears does serve a purpose with these types of breeds. When the dogs wrestle and play, they tend to bite the ears and cause them to bleed. The point of clipping the ears is to prevent that from happening.[/quote]
With the three that I have had, that was never an issue. [/quote]
Yup, for my dog (Cane Corso) this has never been an issue as well. He has had a few playmates that he plays pretty rough with and I’ve seen the other dogs grab his ears but they’ve never bled. Really, if your dogs ears are getting ripped off, it’s gone way past the point of playing with another dog and you as an owner shouldn’t let that happen.
This notion that you should have the ears clipped to prevent that is absurd. My wife is having a baby in a couple of weeks, should I ask the doctor to remove the appendix because it may need to come out later in life? How about just going ahead and taking out the tonsils as well!
I’ve got absolutely no problem with somebody having their dogs ears clipped if it’s what you want for your dog. I’ve got close friends and family members who have gone this route and it doesn’t make me think they’re bad dog owners for a second. However, just admit that it’s a purely cosmetic surgery done 100% for the owner. In other words, own up to the reason you’re having it done.
Back to the point of the thread: I like Holistic Select for large and giant breeds. I also give him 2 eggs along with his breakfast and I always add fish oil to his dinner.