[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
Find a good food, feed him a ton while he’s growing, keep him moving. That’s about all you need dude.[/quote]
Actually, for big breeds, growing too fast is what leads to the hip and joint problems, you actually want a big dog to grow slowly, don’t overfeed and use a low protein large breed puppy formula.
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Veg is right; there are big breed puppy foods formulated for this purpose.
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Okay, a few points; if your breed is “prone to hip and joint issues”, it’s because of the breed’s genetics, more specifically, his bloodline. Fish oil will not stop that. Only dogs with good hips should be bred. Unfortunately, in many gene pools with various breeds, this is not done. Hence, we have severe hip and joint issues in many breeds.
There are pros and cons to a raw diet. Creatine intake is the least of the pros.
Dogs do not eat deer in the wild. Rabbits yes, deer no. Only the fastest breeds can run down a deer 
Creatine is not expensive. And I see little value to adding it to a dog’s feed.
If you don’t want to bother with RAW, feed your dog a decent commercial feed and he’ll be fine. If he has hip issues, it’s b/c the hip issues are in his bloodline. There is nothing you can do about it - well, there WAS, but that time has passed; you don’t buy the pup.
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Wolves eat deer all the time. Most of the wolves I talk to prefer deer over rabbit actually… =D
http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0212280/eating.htm
Both his parents have good hips so hopefully I wont have any issues there.
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And wolves and your bully pit have what in common exactly?
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
Find a good food, feed him a ton while he’s growing, keep him moving. That’s about all you need dude.[/quote]
Actually, for big breeds, growing too fast is what leads to the hip and joint problems, you actually want a big dog to grow slowly, don’t overfeed and use a low protein large breed puppy formula.
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When you say “big breed” are you talking about dogs over a certain weight?
I grew up raising coonhounds that would top off between 70-90 lbs (males/females) respectively, and we fed 'em in the method I described more or less.
As for supplements, I do remember giving our hounds beef tripe during the winter.
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coonhounds are not known for hip problems. we’re talking breeds known for hip problems and those breeds are usually larger. tripe is great for dogs year round.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
Find a good food, feed him a ton while he’s growing, keep him moving. That’s about all you need dude.[/quote]
Actually, for big breeds, growing too fast is what leads to the hip and joint problems, you actually want a big dog to grow slowly, don’t overfeed and use a low protein large breed puppy formula.
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When you say “big breed” are you talking about dogs over a certain weight?
I grew up raising coonhounds that would top off between 70-90 lbs (males/females) respectively, and we fed 'em in the method I described more or less.
As for supplements, I do remember giving our hounds beef tripe during the winter.
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coonhounds are not known for hip problems. we’re talking breeds known for hip problems and those breeds are usually larger. tripe is great for dogs year round.[/quote]
yeah they loved it. Their consumption of it typically co-incided with when we’d have our cows butchered, and NEVER in the summer because it stunk something awful and my mom would raise the roof because of it.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And keep him lean - extra weight is as unhealthy in dogs as it is in humans.[/quote]
But what if my dog likes hot wings?
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Okay, a few points; if your breed is “prone to hip and joint issues”, it’s because of the breed’s genetics, more specifically, his bloodline. Fish oil will not stop that. Only dogs with good hips should be bred. Unfortunately, in many gene pools with various breeds, this is not done. Hence, we have severe hip and joint issues in many breeds.
There are pros and cons to a raw diet. Creatine intake is the least of the pros.
Dogs do not eat deer in the wild. Rabbits yes, deer no. Only the fastest breeds can run down a deer Creatine is not expensive. And I see little value to adding it to a dog’s feed.
If you don’t want to bother with RAW, feed your dog a decent commercial feed and he’ll be fine. If he has hip issues, it’s b/c the hip issues are in his bloodline. There is nothing you can do about it - well, there WAS, but that time has passed; you don’t buy the pup.
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Wolves eat deer all the time. Most of the wolves I talk to prefer deer over rabbit actually… =D
http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0212280/eating.htm
Both his parents have good hips so hopefully I wont have any issues there.
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And wolves and your bully pit have what in common exactly?
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C’mon man you need to brush up on your discovery chanel.
http://www.trussel.com/prehist/news24.htm
Now some scientists don’t agree and believe that wolves and dogs are not descendents but they do all agree that their DNA is almost identical.
But that neither here nor their. I think we can both agree that dogs in the wild have a diet that consists of almost 100% raw meat, which they can get a ton of creatine from, current dog food is mostly dried chicken and tends to have a low percentage of protein and almost non-existent creatine. It’s not too difficult to believe that dogs could be stronger and faster if they were taking in more creatine as they did in the wild.
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
[quote]Kerley wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Read, learn, buy the right food. I give my two dogs Taste of the Wild, it’s the least expensive food in the 6 star category even though the author puts it really in the 5.5 star category in his review.
If you supply them with quality dog food I don’t think you need to worry about supplements. However, I have read a few places where they will add real food once in a while. For example once in a while I’ll add a raw egg to thier food. When I make my beef jerkey I give them scraps of the trimmings, it’s just raw top round with the fat. What I DON’T do is give them bullshit table food or carby snacks. If you have seen pictures of my pups they are both lean and look like they are supposed to. Healthy athletic dogs.
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i use to add eggs and olive oil to my dogs food, makes their coat nice and shiny i dont know if any health benefits came from it though.[/quote]
A friend of mine had an Akida and he used to put a tablespoon of safflower oil in his food. Can’t remember if it was for a skin condition or just for his coat to be shiney and healthy…it worked, his dogs coat was beautifull.
OP, I would love to see a pic of the new pooch, never seen a combo like that before.
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I’ll post a pic when I get home but in the mean time you can see this link to get an idea what a bully pit looks like.
They look like regular pits but are MUCH bigger and more muscular. They have a wider chest and bigger heads.
http://www.bluelegacypitbulls.com/blueLegacypitBullsBreeding.html
A lot of bullies are low to the ground, my dog’s parents are both tall and long, so hopefully he will be a bit taller then the dogs in these pics[/quote]
dude your dog is gonna be bigger than you!
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
HOLY FUCK!
I have seen the odd one but never knew what it was. That must be the breed that mexican dude Ceasar Milan uses to meet new dogs, daddy is it’s name I think. Nice look.
The babes will come with that pup lol.
Just curious OP, is their a muzzle law where you live?
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Cesar Milean’s bully is a bit of a fat ass though. These dogs eat a lot so if you don’t have them pulling or running they tend to look fat. Here is what they should look like, if they get a good amount of exercise and fed right.
Edit: Oh and no muzzle law where I live. I take my buddies bully to the dog park near my house though. I love to see people’s reactions. He’s a big teddy bear and runs up to people wagging his tail and smiling and they usually freeze in terror until they see him roll on his back looking for a belly rub. I always here, “that is the biggest pit I’ve EVER seen”. But my pups gunna make his look like a b****. =D
[quote]Kerley wrote:
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
dude your dog is gonna be bigger than you![/quote]
Ya but how bad ass do you look with this guy by your side.
All cheeseburger bulk diet.
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
Ya but how bad ass do you look with this guy by your side.[/quote]
dude that dog is gonna take you for walks
Just got a bully (bulldog) pup last week. She is 9 weeks old.
Her is a picture of her. Girlfriend decided she wanted one. Will probably get another dog when we move from townhouse to house.
I have raised a red nose pit bull from 6 weeks. He ended up being very jacked and averaged 2 miles on the road per day.
I’ll have to see about getting an electronic picture of Kaiser.
I suppose since you are concerned about ‘looking cool with a dog like this’ on your side you are getting his ears clipped? Kaiser’s were but he hated all vets after that. I felt bad for him but they are a tough breed and don’t shrug at pain much. Not sure I will do it in the future with any pits I have.
When I am finally out of the military, and back in the states, I’m definitely getting a pit. I’m all for exercising them and such, however, I don’t want my pit looking like the ones on the Blue Legacy page. They just don’t look right. If the muscle comes naturally through exercise and such, fine, but I don’t know about those dogs on that site. As for clipping the ears, that’s a no-go. Serves no purpose.
Clipping the ears does serve a purpose with these types of breeds. When the dogs wrestle and play, they tend to bite the ears and cause them to bleed. The point of clipping the ears is to prevent that from happening.
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
When I am finally out of the military, and back in the states, I’m definitely getting a pit. I’m all for exercising them and such, however, I don’t want my pit looking like the ones on the Blue Legacy page. They just don’t look right. If the muscle comes naturally through exercise and such, fine, but I don’t know about those dogs on that site. As for clipping the ears, that’s a no-go. Serves no purpose. [/quote]
The pictures don’t really do the dogs justice. When I first saw pics of my buddies bully pits, I told them I would never want one. I really wanted a dojo argentino or an American Mastiff. Then I saw them in person. Until you’ve seen a lean, built bully in person they’re difficult to describe. I can only compare it to the first time I saw an English Mastiff in person. I seen pictures of how big they are, but then when I saw one it took my breath away.
A lot of people say they don’t like bullies when I show them pictures, but when I have my buddies bully over EVERYONE is taken back and has nothing but compliments. Check out a bully dog show if you ever hear of one near you. You really have to see some of these dogs to appreciate them.
[quote]JGerman wrote:
Just got a bully (bulldog) pup last week. She is 9 weeks old.
Her is a picture of her. Girlfriend decided she wanted one. Will probably get another dog when we move from townhouse to house.
I have raised a red nose pit bull from 6 weeks. He ended up being very jacked and averaged 2 miles on the road per day.
I’ll have to see about getting an electronic picture of Kaiser.
I suppose since you are concerned about ‘looking cool with a dog like this’ on your side you are getting his ears clipped? Kaiser’s were but he hated all vets after that. I felt bad for him but they are a tough breed and don’t shrug at pain much. Not sure I will do it in the future with any pits I have.
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Thats a cute bulldog. Bulldog pups are some of the cutest puppies in my opinion. Yes I will be getting the ears clipped, they look goofy otherwise IMO.
As far as not serving a purpose. My friend has 8 pits all gorgoues fun loving dogs. One of them was attacked by a husky, the husky is now missing part of his ear. He made the mistake of taking his pit to a dog show and assumed everyone there was a responsible owner and had properly socialized their dog. My buddy went to go talk to the huskies owner and the husky went ape shit on the pit and attacked him, the dogs started fighting. By the end of it the pit was left with a scar above his eye, the husky was left with multiple wounds and one of his ears was ripped off. I have every intention of socializing my dog properly which means being around other dogs, having dogs with clipped ears is safer in the off chance another dog attacks them.
[quote]Kerley wrote:
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
Ya but how bad ass do you look with this guy by your side.[/quote]
dude that dog is gonna take you for walks[/quote]
Maybe after a couple years with him my forearms will actually see some size gains. 
I recently started feeding my 6 year old black lab mix, Blue Wilderness, it was rated 6 stars on that site that Vegita linked to. She’s lost some excess weight and seems to love the food, but now you guys have me wondering if she could benefit from some fish oils and creatine too.
And how would I even give her the creatine, she doesn’t even wear socks. But seriously would I just sprinkle it on her food or maybe mix some water into her food (which Blue Wilderness says you can do anyway)
http://shop.k9power.com/k9-super-fuel-1lb.html
Sweet!!! This site looks like a BBing dog’s dream come true. A $55 8lb bag of dog supps lasts over 5 months. So about $10 a month, which is definitely doable… Has creatine and just about everything else in it. Fk I might try eating this stuff. lol
[quote]ready wrote:
I recently started feeding my 6 year old black lab mix, Blue Wilderness, it was rated 6 stars on that site that Vegita linked to. She’s lost some excess weight and seems to love the food, but now you guys have me wondering if she could benefit from some fish oils and creatine too.
And how would I even give her the creatine, she doesn’t even wear socks. But seriously would I just sprinkle it on her food or maybe mix some water into her food (which Blue Wilderness says you can do anyway)[/quote]
Most dogs love it when you mix a little water in there dry food and warm it up in the microwave, I plan on doing this while adding dog supps to his food. My pup saw me eating a steak last night and was totally ignoring his food and started trying to get to my plate. Wouldn’t eat his food at all and kept bugging me for steak. I threw some water in his puppy chow, threw it in the microwave for 10 secs and he downed it like it was his job.
