Hi all!
I have a question because of the fact that a lot of athletes (CJ Hunter etc.) are positive at the dopingtest because of legal supplements which contain traces of prohormones…
What is your opinion?
do you think, this is true (and possible) and a result of an unclean production?
Or is it only an excuse of the athletes?
Greetings from Austria,
redfox
if they are legal, just tell them that is why it is positive.
that doesn’t work, becauce the athlete is responsible for everyhthing, which is in his body…
If it’s a job drug test they don’t test for that only marijauna cocaine heroin etc. A steroid test is too expensive.
Pure bullshit.
Prohormones were too expensive to produce to not charge you for them.
They don’t just toss them into protein powder to help you out.
Suppliment companies, in general, are greedy bastards.
Prohormones don’t just magically appear in someone’s system by taking protein powder.
[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
Prohormones don’t just magically appear in someone’s system by taking protein powder.
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No, but they have been found in products where they were not indicated on the label.
There are two reasonable explanations for this happening. First off, the manufacturer didn’t bother to take the time and expense required to clean the production line before running another product. It’s also been speculated that certain companies have spiked initial batches of certain products so that users see better gains. Once the word gets out that product X works pretty well and sales increase, they stop spiking the product.
[quote]Mod Brian wrote:
Ghost22 wrote:
Prohormones don’t just magically appear in someone’s system by taking protein powder.
No, but they have been found in products where they were not indicated on the label.
There are two reasonable explanations for this happening. First off, the manufacturer didn’t bother to take the time and expense required to clean the production line before running another product. It’s also been speculated that certain companies have spiked initial batches of certain products so that users see better gains. Once the word gets out that product X works pretty well and sales increase, they stop spiking the product.[/quote]
yeah, that’s what i mean.
In Europe we have companys, who guarantee, that their products are clean (and they are also tested for it). I am interested if such companies also exist in USA? (i think so, because what supps should athletes, who have to do dopingtests in USA,take?)
A lot of firms in USA also produce prohormones, so the risk for being posive because of LEGAL Supps is higher.
for example the american firm Ultimate Nutrion had (has?) supplement, which included traces of Steroids/prohormones.
Firmen- und Produktnamen von Nahrungserg?nzungsmitteln, in denen verbotene anabol-androgene Steroide gefunden wurden, die nicht auf der Packung angegeben waren:
Firma Produktname detektierte verbotene Steroide
Ultimate Nutrition BCAA Dehydroepiandrosteron (DHEA)
Ultimate Nutrition L-Carnitine 1000 Dehydroepiandrosteron (DHEA). Androstendion
Ultimate Nutrition Fat Bloc Ultimate Androstendion, Dehydroepiandrosteron (DHEA), 4-Norandrostendion, Androstadiendion
Vitalife Pure OKG Androstendion
Vitalife Ultra Ripped Androstendion
Vitalife Tribugain 4-Norandrostendion
Vitalife Super L-Carnitine 4-Norandrostendion
Nutrisearch All-in-one Dehydroepiandrosteron (DHEA)
Maximuscle Fattack Maximuscle 4-Norandrostendion
Dehydroepiandrosteron (DHEA)
All Stars Speed Creatin Kautab 4-Norandrostendion, 4-Norandrostendiol
All Stars Tri Plex Zell Maxim. 4-Norandrostendion, 4-Norandrostendiol
All Stars Zell Tech Optimizer Dehydroepiandrosteron (DHEA)