Superman vs Thor

So they classify superhero power by tons? Is there a list? Who’s got the best total btw, anyone know?

[quote]Therizza wrote:
So they classify superhero power by tons? Is there a list? Who’s got the best total btw, anyone know?[/quote]

Guys like Thor, Superman, Savage Hulk, Colossus, Martian Manhunter,Juggernaut etc has 100 ton class strength. But the difference is that they can lift an excess of 100 tons with ease. So there’s no telling where their strength. One thing is for sure:

The Madder Hulk gets, the Stronger Hulk gets.

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Therizza wrote:
So they classify superhero power by tons? Is there a list? Who’s got the best total btw, anyone know?

Guys like Thor, Superman, Savage Hulk, Colossus, Martian Manhunter,Juggernaut etc has 100 ton class strength. But the difference is that they can lift an excess of 100 tons with ease. So there’s no telling where their strength. One thing is for sure:

The Madder Hulk gets, the Stronger Hulk gets.[/quote]

You forgot Supergirl in your list. She moves Planets. Just For Fun.

[quote]Bujo wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Therizza wrote:
So they classify superhero power by tons? Is there a list? Who’s got the best total btw, anyone know?

Guys like Thor, Superman, Savage Hulk, Colossus, Martian Manhunter,Juggernaut etc has 100 ton class strength. But the difference is that they can lift an excess of 100 tons with ease. So there’s no telling where their strength. One thing is for sure:

The Madder Hulk gets, the Stronger Hulk gets.

You forgot Supergirl in your list. She moves Planets. Just For Fun.[/quote]

  1. She’s trying and obviously failing
  2. Don’t compare those two losers to real superheroes
  3. Wow, 2 more people who are Kryptonians…wow…I guess that planet explosion doesn’t mean shit.

How many Asgardians are there?

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Bujo wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Therizza wrote:
So they classify superhero power by tons? Is there a list? Who’s got the best total btw, anyone know?

Guys like Thor, Superman, Savage Hulk, Colossus, Martian Manhunter,Juggernaut etc has 100 ton class strength. But the difference is that they can lift an excess of 100 tons with ease. So there’s no telling where their strength. One thing is for sure:

The Madder Hulk gets, the Stronger Hulk gets.

You forgot Supergirl in your list. She moves Planets. Just For Fun.

  1. She’s trying and obviously failing
  2. Don’t compare those two losers to real superheroes
  3. Wow, 2 more people who are Kryptonians…wow…I guess that planet explosion doesn’t mean shit.[/quote]

What’s with all the hate? Kryptonian’s steal your lunch money? Give you a swirly in gym class?

The one in white isn’t Kryptonian. She’s human fused with the Matrix. It’s complicated. Don’t ask.

The one in blue is the one that died in 1985 fighting the Anit-Monitor during “Crisis on Infinite Earths”. She’s just here on a short sabbatical before returning to her own time.

Man, I kind of hate to tell you but Braniac saved an entire city full of Kryptonians. Superman keeps it in his basement. Or well used to. There’s probably a hundred thousand to a million or more Kryptonians flying around now, but I haven’t read that far.

[quote]Bujo wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Bujo wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Therizza wrote:
So they classify superhero power by tons? Is there a list? Who’s got the best total btw, anyone know?

Guys like Thor, Superman, Savage Hulk, Colossus, Martian Manhunter,Juggernaut etc has 100 ton class strength. But the difference is that they can lift an excess of 100 tons with ease. So there’s no telling where their strength. One thing is for sure:

The Madder Hulk gets, the Stronger Hulk gets.

You forgot Supergirl in your list. She moves Planets. Just For Fun.

  1. She’s trying and obviously failing
  2. Don’t compare those two losers to real superheroes
  3. Wow, 2 more people who are Kryptonians…wow…I guess that planet explosion doesn’t mean shit.

What’s with all the hate? Kryptonian’s steal your lunch money? Give you a swirly in gym class?

The one in white isn’t Kryptonian. She’s human fused with the Matrix. It’s complicated. Don’t ask.

The one in blue is the one that died in 1985 fighting the Anit-Monitor during “Crisis on Infinite Earths”. She’s just here on a short sabbatical before returning to her own time.

Man, I kind of hate to tell you but Braniac saved an entire city full of Kryptonians. Superman keeps it in his basement. Or well used to. There’s probably a hundred thousand to a million or more Kryptonians flying around now, but I haven’t read that far. [/quote]

No, they bother me because they keep re-appearing even though their fucking planet was blown the fuck up and Superman is the last one alive outside of Zod. So when more people show up when S on their chest, it gets annoying.

The matrix? What the hell are you talking about? You mean Superman’s bio matrix?

Multi-verse…my favorite

Jesus christ, so now Braniac has at least 200 Supermen with him. Don’t you see how retarded that is. A nameless orphan with no special talents has become the DC’s greatest superhero. Now imagine if 200,000 more showed up on Earth. Game over for Planet Earth.

[quote]Bujo wrote:
The one in white isn’t Kryptonian. She’s human fused with the Matrix. It’s complicated. Don’t ask.

The one in blue is the one that died in 1985 fighting the Anit-Monitor during “Crisis on Infinite Earths”. She’s just here on a short sabbatical before returning to her own time.

Man, I kind of hate to tell you but Braniac saved an entire city full of Kryptonians. Superman keeps it in his basement. Or well used to. There’s probably a hundred thousand to a million or more Kryptonians flying around now, but I haven’t read that far. [/quote]

Errr wow. I don’t think anyone needs to say anything to highlight how shit that sounds.

“Last Son of Krypton” my arse.

Superman could be so good in the hands of a responsible writing team.

I fucking hate people jumping in and out from different times/paralel universes.

I think it should be restricted to:

  1. Back to the Future
  2. The first two Terminator films.
  3. The X-Men story “Days of Future Past”

I suppose Crisis on Infinite Earths was good, but it was just a device to tie up the mess of a DC universe at the time, so that kind of takes a bit of a shine off the excitement of it for me. Age of Apocalypse was ok too.

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
No, they bother me because they keep re-appearing even though their fucking planet was blown the fuck up and Superman is the last one alive outside of Zod. So when more people show up when S on their chest, it gets annoying.

The matrix? What the hell are you talking about? You mean Superman’s bio matrix?

Multi-verse…my favorite

Jesus christ, so now Braniac has at least 200 Supermen with him. Don’t you see how retarded that is. A nameless orphan with no special talents has become the DC’s greatest superhero. Now imagine if 200,000 more showed up on Earth. Game over for Planet Earth.
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No, Braniac had the city of Kandor, but Superman took it away from him. Then Superman stuck it in the basement of the Fortress of Solitude under a heat lamp to simulate a red sun for the next 50 years. You probably don’t want to know what New Krypton is about or who all those extra folks are. At least there is only a 100,000, so everything is kool.

New Krypton

The Bottle City of Kandor is a silver age idea. It’s been around for a while.

Supergirl (Matrix)

Supergirl (Linda Danvers & Matrix)

And you got no room to bitch. No matter what DC does it won’t match Marvel’s invention of Thor Girl.

Even Thor Toad was cooler than this.

THOR WINS

[quote]Bujo wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
No, they bother me because they keep re-appearing even though their fucking planet was blown the fuck up and Superman is the last one alive outside of Zod. So when more people show up when S on their chest, it gets annoying.

The matrix? What the hell are you talking about? You mean Superman’s bio matrix?

Multi-verse…my favorite

Jesus christ, so now Braniac has at least 200 Supermen with him. Don’t you see how retarded that is. A nameless orphan with no special talents has become the DC’s greatest superhero. Now imagine if 200,000 more showed up on Earth. Game over for Planet Earth.

No, Braniac had the city of Kandor, but Superman took it away from him. Then Superman stuck it in the basement of the Fortress of Solitude under a heat lamp to simulate a red sun for the next 50 years. You probably don’t want to know what New Krypton is about or who all those extra folks are. At least there is only a 100,000, so everything is kool.

New Krypton

The Bottle City of Kandor is a silver age idea. It’s been around for a while.

Supergirl (Matrix)

Supergirl (Linda Danvers & Matrix)

And you got no room to bitch. No matter what DC does it won’t match Marvel’s invention of Thor Girl.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_Girl[/quote]

I got plenty of room to bitch. How many Superman rip offs are you gonna make? Its in the fucker’s name “Last Son of Krypton”. So when you start adding Kryptonians from different universes, kryptonian girls hidden inside a meteorite of kryptonite, cyborg supermen, supermen from a future alternate universe, or Kryptonians in a fucking bottle, it just looks plain retarded.

You would think after Infinite Crisis stories, DC would clean up all this extra Superman bullshit they leave around.

And you can read the Thor-Girl’s bio. She’s not originally an Asgardian. She’s some prophecy waiting to happen and has Cosmic powers. The bitch used her natural powers to simulate Thor’s abilities and Thor’s Hammer after Thor saved her.

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Bujo wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
No, they bother me because they keep re-appearing even though their fucking planet was blown the fuck up and Superman is the last one alive outside of Zod. So when more people show up when S on their chest, it gets annoying.

The matrix? What the hell are you talking about? You mean Superman’s bio matrix?

Multi-verse…my favorite

Jesus christ, so now Braniac has at least 200 Supermen with him. Don’t you see how retarded that is. A nameless orphan with no special talents has become the DC’s greatest superhero. Now imagine if 200,000 more showed up on Earth. Game over for Planet Earth.

No, Braniac had the city of Kandor, but Superman took it away from him. Then Superman stuck it in the basement of the Fortress of Solitude under a heat lamp to simulate a red sun for the next 50 years. You probably don’t want to know what New Krypton is about or who all those extra folks are. At least there is only a 100,000, so everything is kool.

New Krypton

The Bottle City of Kandor is a silver age idea. It’s been around for a while.

Supergirl (Matrix)

Supergirl (Linda Danvers & Matrix)

And you got no room to bitch. No matter what DC does it won’t match Marvel’s invention of Thor Girl.

I got plenty of room to bitch. How many Superman rip offs are you gonna make? Its in the fucker’s name “Last Son of Krypton”. So when you start adding Kryptonians from different universes, kryptonian girls hidden inside a meteorite of kryptonite, cyborg supermen, supermen from a future alternate universe, or Kryptonians in a fucking bottle, it just looks plain retarded.

You would think after Infinite Crisis stories, DC would clean up all this extra Superman bullshit they leave around.

And you can read the Thor-Girl’s bio. She’s not originally an Asgardian. She’s some prophecy waiting to happen and has Cosmic powers. The bitch used her natural powers to simulate Thor’s abilities and Thor’s Hammer after Thor saved her.
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I don’t think people can bitch about Asgardians in the way they can bitch about Kryptonians anyway. Asgard has always been a realm where there are a lot of powerful individuals, its not like Marvel keep expanding it to open up new storytelling options. I object to the fact that part of Superman’s appeal is that he is the last of his kind…oh but now he’s not, too bad.

I fucking hate when they dredge up new Kryptonians every time they can’t think of an original story.

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
I got plenty of room to bitch. How many Superman rip offs are you gonna make? Its in the fucker’s name “Last Son of Krypton”. So when you start adding Kryptonians from different universes, kryptonian girls hidden inside a meteorite of kryptonite, cyborg supermen, supermen from a future alternate universe, or Kryptonians in a fucking bottle, it just looks plain retarded.

You would think after Infinite Crisis stories, DC would clean up all this extra Superman bullshit they leave around.

And you can read the Thor-Girl’s bio. She’s not originally an Asgardian. She’s some prophecy waiting to happen and has Cosmic powers. The bitch used her natural powers to simulate Thor’s abilities and Thor’s Hammer after Thor saved her.
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Thor Girl is retarded. Supergirl wasn’t Kryptonian, she was the Matrix, and modeled herself after Superman. That was retarded too.

Most of this stuff isn’t new, it’s been around since the 50’s when logic or continuity had very little to do with comic books. Since “Infinite Crisis” restored this stuff back into the DC continuity it’s now being put back into play. It’s kind of funny Marvel is trying to scale down their universe and DC is rapidly expanding their own.

In 1986 DC rebooted the Superman franchise in an effort to make the “Last Son of Krypton” to be a literal definition for Superman. That’s why Supergirl died during “Crisis on Infinite Earths”, Power Girl was probably supposed to go away too. This led to incredibly retarded ret-cons and overly complicated histories of new characters.

As they say, “its hard to kill a good idea”, and people loved Supergirl. Supergirl came back in the form of the shape shifting Matrix. Power Girl became the daughter of an Atlantean Wizard who was put into a rocket ship, shot out of prehistoric Atlantis, and landed in the future Earth.

So yeah, after that load of crap, I gratefully accept a couple extra girls from Krypton. Plus the way the two girls have been put to use has been great. Power Girl as chairwoman of the JSA, and Supergirl hangin’ with the Legion of Superheroes in the 31st century. Good Stuff.

It doesn’t matter how many Kryptonians or Superman clones they make as long as the stories are good and maintain a decent continuity. Having Hank Henshaw take over as grand master of the Manhunter androids and be a Green Lantern villain was great.

I can’t wait to read the Sinestro Corps War stuff to see him as a Yellow Lantern. Hell, he may even make it into Blackest Night, which should be awesome from judging books by their covers. Though I have to admit I never did care much for Mon-El.

Frog Thor > Thor Thor

One of the baddest assed drawings I’ve seen of Thor.
It will one of the variant covers for the Siege extravaganza planned for the Marvel universe come January 2010.

Hmmm. Picture didn’t upload. Maybe it was too big…let me try again.

Hey does anyone know an issue from around 1980 in which an alien boxing champion comes to earth to find the universes ultimate fighter. He kidnaps the earths top super heroes (thor almost escapes)and takes them to another planet to train for a few months in order to become “worthy opponents for him”.

He then brings them all back to earth and defeats them all one by one in the boxing ring (he refuses to fight hulk ,as hulk who remains calm and in control thru the whole comic finally loses it in the ring and becomes mindless angry hulk,and the alien says "I refuse to soil my hands on such a mindless brute).

The thing loses to him but gives him a good fight and breaks his ribs. Thus the alien announces earth as worthy of continuing to exsist, and does not destroy the planet.

[quote]W8 guru wrote:
Hey does anyone know an issue from around 1980 in which an alien boxing champion comes to earth to find the universes ultimate fighter. He kidnaps the earths top super heroes (thor almost escapes)and takes them to another planet to train for a few months in order to become “worthy opponents for him”.

He then brings them all back to earth and defeats them all one by one in the boxing ring (he refuses to fight hulk ,as hulk who remains calm and in control thru the whole comic finally loses it in the ring and becomes mindless angry hulk,and the alien says "I refuse to soil my hands on such a mindless brute).

The thing loses to him but gives him a good fight and breaks his ribs. Thus the alien announces earth as worthy of continuing to exsist, and does not destroy the planet. [/quote]

His name was the Champion. I remember him beating up Colossus too. I haven’t read that issue since it came out at that time.
I just didn’t like the part with Mr. Fantastic saying he maybe has more power than Galactus.

I don’t remember the original issue but the character and plot are revisited in the 2004 She-Hulk series, where She-Hulk of all folks beats him silly. In the original, do y’all remember him having a gem stone embedded in his forehead that gave him infinite endurance or something like that? I think it was one of the gems Thanos had in his Infinity Gauntlet.

Pretty sure it was the Power gem.

And She-Hulk needs to cut like a moterhfucker.