Yep. I do think that getting stronger will make the muscles big for you (not comparing to others). I don’t think the guys who don’t look like they lift putting up big weight would look a whole lot different if they did more bodybuilding style training. It just isn’t in their genetics to look big and full.
Who knows… Personally I’d rather put my bets on a small dose of anastrozole comparative to increased androgen load. That’s just me
Not really, 25mg ostarine/day is probably more potent than 500mg masteron/wk, at least going by clinical trails relative to testosterone in terms of LBM accrual it probably is. Masteron isn’t that potent, on paper it’s weak, in the real world it’s probably even weaker (anabolic potential, it’s quite androgenic and harsh on biomarkers; as is ostarine concerning the latter). Not giving advice on what to use, just stating what can be reasonably extrapolated from data/anecdote from others
Bodybuilders still chase strength, though it isn’t a priority.
It might be, hypertrophy requires quite a bit of volume. If you’re primarily training with doubles and triples (with a bit of higher rep assistance work) you don’t have as much time to fit in the volume someone doing GVT etc could put in.
One would have to be an absolute freak of nature to get to a 4 plate bench with small arms doing doubles and triples.
If you think its better to use anastrozole instead of EQ, i will do that as it is also easier. I just tought that overall people in this forum were against AI use. I want to put the least stress on my body and reduce it along the way.
It being potent i think i can agree with as im 3 days on it and my GF yesterday said “hey, you have abs again like you did last year” and i actually do feel much fuller and my mid sections looks much tighter. But it might be something else or just the fast that its summer here and im sweating a lot. Idk.
Anyways, what do you think of sides and stress to the body? Ankrom said its almost super safe and it doesnt put same stress on body as steroids do. Its basically less bad than anavar, no? So i was thinking not about potency but about general stress on the body.
Anecdotes and literature employing lower dosages (1-3mg/day) appear to indicate it fucks up lipids fiercely.
SARMS in the dosages enjoyed by bodybuilders also appear to be associated with hepatotoxicity reminiscent of oral AAS. Quite a few case reports have popped up detailing serious liver injury associated with SARM use as the only culpable variable
I don’t know who Ankrom is, is he a doctor/one of the online “gurus” like Dyllan Gemelli? If that’s the name of your dealer redact the name (and I’ll do the same by deleting this post when I wake up tomorrow).
Ryan Ankrom, he has books on AAS and SARMS and chanel on youtube… he is actually smart dude as he does all the scientific research… not saying he is 100% right but most stuff he says actually is like he says - he never has said that something that is shit, is not shit… he kinda says how it is…
I understood from him that Ostarine is less liver toxic than Anavar and he said that it wont do shit on a cycle, so he likes it better with TRT or on a cruise.
Even if sarms were say… Less hepatotoxic/stressful to the body, it’d be difficult to clarify.
We have NO long term and scarce short term data on nonsteroidal sarms. With AAS we have quite a bit of data.
@lordgains can chime in as he’s a pharmacist (far more qualified than I am) and it’s well past midnight here and I’m going to sleep now. I’ll link some studies tomorrow regarding sarms, effects on lipids, potential hepatotoxicity etc.
Can u tell me if you think that anastrozole is better to combat high e2 than low dose EQ? (health/stress on the body)
I’d put him above Gimelli and below MPMD. In his videos he seems to know just enough so his clients don’t die (right away, at least). Maybe his books are more detailed
This is Ryan on the left. Yes, he trained with Rich P. I think his videos are Great. Not once have I taken any of his advice and I did not get the exact result he said in his video.
Yea, the guy might not be a doctor(he always says he is not) but he seems to know the stuff. I like that he never masks bad sides if there are some - he just says how it is. If something is weak he says its weak. If something will kill you - he will say it also.
Its a bit hard to listen to him cuz he looks like a complete douche from a night club, but when you get past it, he seems to be 90% right about stuff.
Anyways, in his video about Ostarine, he says its not liver toxic, and it IMPROVES LDL. Idk… will see.
There were a few diehard advocates against AI use in these forums, haven’t seen them in a while. I think the main argument is against guys using an AI with a small TRT dose of test.
In my option, if you need an AI then you need an AI. For me, I need a few mg/week on any test cycle and maybe 0.5mg once every week or two on cruise.
I left this forum for over 2 years because of that anti AI group.
On my return I heard they caused so much hell and discontent the management ban them from the forum.
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As far as I know, EQ has not been clinically studied as an estrogen blocker. It’s anti estrogen effects (if any) might not even be real. It’s possible it’s similar to the way biotin supplements messing up lab results, who knows.
I did the same thing! I’m glad you came back.
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Thanks I am enjoying your posts as well. I have learned a lot from you in such a short time. It does feel good to be back.
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For me it works better than anastrizozole… using 2:1 test/eq lowered my e2 lower than it has even been in my life… im playing with 4:1 now, to see if i can raise my e2 a bit over the norm as i believe i felt better that way.
The AI activity of EQ as we’ll as it’s metabolites are proven. There has not been a study in humans of its AI activity.
@ lordgains So does EQ prevent T converting to E2? Blocks E2 like Tamoxifen on the nipples but you E2 is still high? Or acts like anastrozole?
I have never even considered EQ because it has never been tested on humans. I raised horses for 18 year and my wife and daughter raced them. So I know a bit about this drug but from the equine world not body building.
My wife and I took dog horses and with a bit of training and the right amount of juice we made hundreds of dollars at local horse races where no one had a clue about drugs. An then we’d sell those horses for thousands above what we paid.
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Its almost a month off tren, i believe its safe to say that i did not lost much.
My BenchPress is progressing according to 531 plan.
My lower body lifts fucked up but thats probably due to too high TM for too long, and also i screwed up my back a bit.
Anyways, i would want to believe that i am safely off it.
Bad news is that nothing has changed - i do not feel any better or worse or anything.
I will also reduce my HGH from today, as i dont think i feel different on 4iu than on 2iu anyways.
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