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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
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Trib…

why are you looking to excuse his repetitive defense of taunting?

they were cruel to a person with a mental defect. They continued the cruelty even after learning of that person’s suicide. This person had no reasoning ability. Get that out of your equation.

why would you defend that?

why not say, “what happened was wrong, I have learned what not to do.”

you can excuse the behavior… I do not

and I do not agree with your definition of mob mentality. In essence you are saying if the majority is behaving in a what would be considered a reprehensible manner, then said reprehensible manner may now be deemed acceptable.

no… it does not.

why are folks looking to excuse bad behavior? aaahhhh such a lack of character these days

I was only defending this one post. I have no idea what he has said before. I only came in this thread because I saw the kids parents on the news.

I also did not say that sufficient numbers make reprehensible behavior acceptable. What I did say is that if you know reprehensible behavior is being engaged in someplace the simple solution is to not go to that place. Especially where you have a clear choice like online. It’s not like it was at his school or something where he had to go there. Maybe this kid did have a mental defect that affected his judgment in that regard.

In any case I do not condone cruel sadistic behavior in any way and would deal with it in a swift and decisive manner if I found my kids doing such a thing.

You’ve known me long enough. I’m surprised you would think that I would react permissively to someone being taunted into killing themselves. Nothing could be further from the truth.

My apologies Trib,

I thought it was out of character for you and I should have known better.

I misunderstood and thought you were defending the actions of the mob.

in regards to Abraham posting what he did in the misc forum… well… he had a mental illness. Obviously he was incapable of making good decisions. Also it has been shown that many times victims will cater to bullies hoping that if they can make friends it will lessen the cruelty.

Sorry for misunderstnding Trib.

I just am fed up with folks that want to blame a mentally ill, bullied young man.

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No problem here. This is a heartbreaking tragedy.

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[quote]Qaash wrote:

I still prefer to err on the side of caution and the fact that you’ve seen 5 fake suicides since just proves the callousness that everyone is so upset about. Also, it is not a question of what will upset them more…it’s a question of what could trigger a negative reaction. [/quote]

That is true. In your opinion though which would be more likely to trigger a negative reaction? I would still say the former.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I also did not say that sufficient numbers make reprehensible behavior acceptable.
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And neither did I.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
You’ve known me long enough. I’m surprised you would think that I would react permissively to someone being taunted into killing themselves. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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Nor would I. He was however in no way taunted into killing himself. What a joke. He was upset about women as is common for well i was going to say kids of his age but really common for just about everyone.

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to lazy to even drag the self destruction out over years… kids these days…

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
they were cruel to a person with a mental defect. They continued the cruelty even after learning of that person’s suicide. This person had no reasoning ability. Get that out of your equation.
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Yeah you are right. CandyJunkie was just a retard with no reasoning ability. An imbecile. He came looking for hugs and kittens and instead found a bunch of jokers. If only he was normal enough to realise that it wasn’t a place to go to for help.

It is such a shame bipolar takes away your mental abilities and leaves you less intellectually capable than a 5 year old. If only he had some other mental disorder that only played with his emotions or something and only some of the time, but left him with the ability to reason.

If only the people in ‘misc’ had known they were talking to someone sub-human. Then they might have been more respectful with their words. If only they knew he was dumber than a plank of wood and emotionally damaged. :frowning:

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[quote]phaethon wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
they were cruel to a person with a mental defect. They continued the cruelty even after learning of that person’s suicide. This person had no reasoning ability. Get that out of your equation.

Yeah you are right. CandyJunkie was just a retard with no reasoning ability. An imbecile. He came looking for hugs and kittens and instead found a bunch of jokers. If only he was normal enough to realise that it wasn’t a place to go to for help.

It is such a shame bipolar takes away your mental abilities and leaves you less intellectually capable than a 5 year old. If only he had some other mental disorder that only played with his emotions or something and only some of the time, but left him with the ability to reason.

If only the people in ‘misc’ had known they were talking to someone sub-human. Then they might have been more respectful with their words. If only they knew he was dumber than a plank of wood and emotionally damaged. :([/quote]

and again you throw insults at the victim

you continue to defend the taunting instead of just saying it shouldn’t have happened and that you hope it won’t happen again and maybe something can be learned from the tragedy

you really have presented who you are

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
and again you throw insults at the victim

you continue to defend the taunting instead of just saying it shouldn’t have happened and that you hope it won’t happen again and maybe something can be learned from the tragedy

you really have presented who you are
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You either have a pathetic level of comprehension or you are deliberately trolling and twisting my words. I didn’t think you thought it was appropriate to troll on a suicide thread.

hint: Find out the mental condition that CandyJunkie had. Then find out what bipolar does (another hint: He had bipolar). I know what it does. Then have a slow read over what you wrote and then what I wrote in reply. Take your time. Digest it for a couple of minutes.

And then realise how stupid and offensive your original post was. And I at first thought it was a mistake and you didn’t mean it but you have since posted similar remarks. Either you didn’t even take the time to find out what problems the kid actually had or you simply think that anyone with a mental illness is an imbecile.

If you didn’t even take the time to find out about the guy how can you feign compassion? Maybe you just couldn’t understand the news reports. Did you even read his suicide letter which talked about some of his actual problems? What a joke. I actually happen to know a decent amount about the problems the guy had and I don’t see fit to judge the people who laughed about his suicide. So who are you, who knows nothing and doesn’t take the time to find out before becoming high and mighty, to state that they are in the wrong?

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[quote]phaethon wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
and again you throw insults at the victim

you continue to defend the taunting instead of just saying it shouldn’t have happened and that you hope it won’t happen again and maybe something can be learned from the tragedy

you really have presented who you are

You either have a pathetic level of comprehension or you are deliberately trolling and twisting my words. I didn’t think you thought it was appropriate to troll on a suicide thread.

hint: Find out the mental condition that CandyJunkie had. Then find out what bipolar does (another hint: He had bipolar). I know what it does. Then have a slow read over what you wrote and then what I wrote in reply. Take your time. Digest it for a couple of minutes.

And then realise how stupid and offensive your original post was. And I at first thought it was a mistake and you didn’t mean it but you have since posted similar remarks. Either you didn’t even take the time to find out what problems the kid actually had or you simply think that anyone with a mental illness is an imbecile.

If you didn’t even take the time to find out about the guy how can you feign compassion? Maybe you just couldn’t understand the news reports. Did you even read his suicide letter which talked about some of his actual problems? What a joke. I actually happen to know a decent amount about the problems the guy had and I don’t see fit to judge the people who laughed about his suicide. So who are you, who knows nothing and doesn’t take the time to find out before becoming high and mighty, to state that they are in the wrong?[/quote]

You need to realize it has nothing to do with his mental illness in the first place.

Insulting my intelligence is just another revelation on the person that you are.

This has less to do with the victim… , it has to do with the taunting. You refuse to see that and want to make it a different issue.

it doesn’t matter if he had a mental illness, that just makes it even more appalling, it has everything to do with a cruel mob.

you need to learn how to figure out the real issue of a matter.

it would not have been OKAY if the victim didn’t have a mental illnes… It would not be OKAY for the taunts if this was just a person having a bad day. Because a behavior is acceptable to the participating group does not make this “OKAY.”

are there anymore insults you want to sling around to folks?

do you want to go back now to having fun insulting people? Maybe throw in some more taunting and be a little more patronizing?

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[quote]phaethon wrote:

If you didn’t even take the time to find out about the guy how can you feign compassion? Maybe you just couldn’t understand the news reports. Did you even read his suicide letter which talked about some of his actual problems? What a joke. I actually happen to know a decent amount about the problems the guy had and I don’t see fit to judge the people who laughed about his suicide. So who are you, who knows nothing and doesn’t take the time to find out before becoming high and mighty, to state that they are in the wrong?[/quote]

“I actually happen to know a decent amount of the problems the guy had and I don’t see fit to judge the people who laughed about his suicide”

Well,I know that anyone who seriously laughs about suicide has far more problems than anyone who takes their own life. I will emphatically state that THEY (the person who laughs at another’s misery) are wrong. And who am I? A thinking, feeling human being.

I don’t give a fuck if you have the exact same problems as this dude. Whatever your depth of supposed understanding of the issues leading to his death does not mean that you can somehow justify the actions of those who stood by and egged him on.

Look up non-sequitur.

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[quote]pavlovs vodka wrote:
I will emphatically state that THEY (the person who laughs at another’s misery) are wrong. And who am I? A thinking, feeling human being.

I don’t give a fuck if you have the exact same problems as this dude. Whatever your depth of supposed understanding of the issues leading to his death does not mean that you can somehow justify the actions of those who stood by and egged him on.

Look up non-sequitur.
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And who am I? A thinking, feeling human being. And I don’t think it is wrong. So don’t try and pull your “I’m morally superior” bullshit. You haven’t given any convincing argument to suggest otherwise.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
You need to realize it has nothing to do with his mental illness in the first place.

Insulting my intelligence is just another revelation on the person that you are.

This has less to do with the victim… , it has to do with the taunting. You refuse to see that and want to make it a different issue.

it doesn’t matter if he had a mental illness, that just makes it even more appalling, it has everything to do with a cruel mob.

you need to learn how to figure out the real issue of a matter.

it would not have been OKAY if the victim didn’t have a mental illnes… It would not be OKAY for the taunts if this was just a person having a bad day. Because a behavior is acceptable to the participating group does not make this “OKAY.”

are there anymore insults you want to sling around to folks?

do you want to go back now to having fun insulting people? Maybe throw in some more taunting and be a little more patronizing?
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Oh dear it sounds like you just realised you have been 10x as offensive as I ever have about CandyJunkie and are now trying to appear indignant.

I think you are ignoring the fact that you have badly insulted him whereas I have said nothing bad about him. As to insulting your intelligence you do realise you have misunderstood what I have been saying at least twice. I don’t think it is due to lack of intelligence. I think it is due to laziness.

If you join a group, that you can leave at any time with no ill affect, that acts in a certain way to every member in the group, in a manner that is clearly a joke, then the behaviour is in fact acceptable.

I’m betting you only read a single news article about the suicide. Most of the articles out there on it are as bad as the articles about steroid rage. Every time a person gets angry, if they are a steroid user, it is always the steroids fault. And most of the article will focus on the roid usage.

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[quote]phaethon wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
You need to realize it has nothing to do with his mental illness in the first place.

Insulting my intelligence is just another revelation on the person that you are.

This has less to do with the victim… , it has to do with the taunting. You refuse to see that and want to make it a different issue.

it doesn’t matter if he had a mental illness, that just makes it even more appalling, it has everything to do with a cruel mob.

you need to learn how to figure out the real issue of a matter.

it would not have been OKAY if the victim didn’t have a mental illnes… It would not be OKAY for the taunts if this was just a person having a bad day. Because a behavior is acceptable to the participating group does not make this “OKAY.”

are there anymore insults you want to sling around to folks?

do you want to go back now to having fun insulting people? Maybe throw in some more taunting and be a little more patronizing?

Oh dear it sounds like you just realised you have been 10x as offensive as I ever have about CandyJunkie and are now trying to appear indignant.

I think you are ignoring the fact that you have badly insulted him whereas I have said nothing bad about him. As to insulting your intelligence you do realise you have misunderstood what I have been saying at least twice. I don’t think it is due to lack of intelligence. I think it is due to laziness.

If you join a group, that you can leave at any time with no ill affect, that acts in a certain way to every member in the group, in a manner that is clearly a joke, then the behaviour is in fact acceptable.

I’m betting you only read a single news article about the suicide. Most of the articles out there on it are as bad as the articles about steroid rage. Every time a person gets angry, if they are a steroid user, it is always the steroids fault. And most of the article will focus on the roid usage.[/quote]

still trying to cast blame on others and not acknowledging bad behavior is bad behavior. Still not understanding the issue is the taunting. No… not “not understanding” you refuse to admit or understand or acknowledge the real issue.

You saw nothing wrong with the taunting and are now vigorously defending that. You stated you didn’t think it was wrong so there is no point in continuing this with you.

keep shouting your defense to the rooftops. I am sure you have all your buddies in the misc agreeing with you, or maybe taunting you.

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I’m gonna go ahead and unsubscribe from this thread, all this arguing is getting old. And it’s no fun because you guys keep posting too much stuff and I don’t want to read it all lol.