@systemlord @highpull @hardartery @darkdescartes @wolf359
So after increasing dose to 80mg few days ago I feel shitty past few days
Last night couldn’t sleep till morning felt very depressed! Woke up feeling not fresh at all and now feel drowsy and exhausted
Could this be due to dose change /high estrogen etc???
Please advice guys
I doubt it. I think it is a mistake to evaluate results on such an isolated sample. I’d give it more time before drawing any conclusions. This comes from someone who takes 200mg once a week and feels the same throughout the week, and even into the following week if skipping an injection, which I did once (for three weeks) to try to feel the “crash”… I’m also basing this off the hundreds of guys I know taking once weekly doses. Anyone who injects daily or every other day will likely tell you your levels are not stable. You may be sensitive to slight changes in hormonal levels, but I think it is too early to make that call.
This is what happens when changing dosages, maybe your body doesn’t like these moderately sized dosages and maybe it’s time to try microdosing, I’ll bet it’s an improvement over these moderate doses.
This wouldn’t be the first time I’ve seen someone with mid-range to high SHBG do better on more frequent dosing. I think the surge in hormones is causing you issues.
You may have a had an uptick of dopamine from the higher dose. It will go away after a few day if that’s it.
Do you all think I should get more blood tests now or later like thyroid ,CBC ferretin etc and if so what all tests??
Dude. Relaaaaaax.
Calm the fuck down and just chill.
I’m not saying it to be a dick. I’m saying it because I feel like you’re mind is racing 125 mph trying to handle 83738 at once when you need to take it one day at a time, 1 thing at a time.
You JUST changed dosages, you will feel off as you’re resetting your body’s homeostasis.
You’ve made your choice and decided to do 80mg at twice a week I believe?
Regardless of dosage or frequency, leave it.
Just chillax and let it run it’s course.
Retest bloodwork in 6-8 weeks.
I also said keep an eye on prolactin. If it comes back top of the range, try and lower it.
But once again homie, CHILL.
Hehe yea know I’m just getting too anxious and jumping the gun ! Just needed some reassurance I guess
@highpull @systemlord @hardartery @darkdescartes
Hi guys I have gotten my lab tests now a bit late after almost 8 weeks since I have been I’m traveling on vacation but I feel even more shitty now and more bloated than before .
Please advice since I am thinking of stopping the trt and just being without it .
I feel shitty and sluggish bloated etc
I have been drinking almost everyday while on vacation so it could be a reason for the bloat but the amount of bloat is excessive and unusual so it has to be the T injections .
Please advice since I don’t feel great …Sex drive comes and goes but is good when the T is optimal I guess ??and am really thinking that TRT is not the solution to my problems !!
Guys please advice what do you suggest
Firsty your levels may be too high, I felt as you do when my Total T was 829 and E2 in the 50’s. You need to break up your shots into smaller ones because T is spiking hormones causing these issues you are having, by injecting smaller dosages, the spikes will be smaller and this should fix your troubles.
You want to sabotage this whole TRT thing, keep drinking almost everyday. I would also lower your dosage if you are going to inject smaller doses. TRT is the solution to your problems, you just need more patience and need to control your alcohol intake.
Thanks @systemlord
Do you suggest eod and what dosage would you recommend for eod??
Any other tests you think required eg thyroid etc for the fatigue and mood ??
I think 25mg EOD is a good starting place. If this fails to improve your situation, you can run a thyroid panel checking Free T3, Free T4, Reverse T3, Thyroglobulin Antibodies (TgAb) and
Peroxidase (TPO) antibodies.
Thanks.
Is it ok to do SC injections in the belly and thigh ? since eod can be painful otherwise
I wouldn’t complicate things, some guys aromatize more on SQ and considering you drink everyday I think it’s a bad idea. I can’t imagine a 29G syringe being painful for you, I inject every day in the quads and deltoids.
Ok.
How would I start the dosing after now… if I injected 80mg today ?
Start in a few days so your body has some test built up in your system to hold you over as your body adjusts to the new protocol.
You are going to feel better in 8 weeks.
@systemlord thanks for everything
Problem is I can’t find any 29 gauge .5 inch syringes where i live!
Only 26 gauge .5 inch available
That’s why I was asking about SC for eod since I can find very short insulin syringes here only
Your levels look good, but they are just numbers. Some guys are overly sensitive to estrogen. I trained with some guys who had trouble with estrogen, though our dosing was at PED levels. Try some DIM, or change your protocol to bring it down. A low dose (temporary, hopefully) of an aromatase inhibitor is also an option.
If you are paying for those labs, don’t repeat FSH and LH.
