[quote]Makavali wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Makavali wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
How do you know I’m not a billionaire with all my money based in diamonds?
let me know so I can update my note!
I’m not gonna lie to you.
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damn… now I want to eat a cookie. Can I blame someone else please?
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
damn… now I want to eat a cookie. Can I blame someone else please?[/quote]
You should sue McDonalds. Or Subway.
Nah, McDonalds.
Subway can be far and away the best “fast” food you can find. It can also be complete garbage just like the rest, and will never be a full time substitute for a grocery store and preparing your own meals.
Easy on the cheese, wheat bread, all the veggies you can load on (spinach is better than their lettuce), little to no sauce/oil, and no soda. Viola. I usually get a double meat, 12 inch turkey, and use it as two smaller meals.
They know how to market their brand (with results, honest or otherwise), and beat everyone else to the “healthy” selling point. The Jared campaign has been going on since 2000. Here’s a marketing review I found.
"And so I wrote only briefly about the Fogle spots, believing that Subway had a good campaign going to promote its “7 under 6” line of seven sandwiches containing 6 grams of fat or less. It’s a promotional campaign, nothing more.
Now I confess that I had it wrong. I initially analyzed the campaign as a bystander, not as a member of the target market. In reality Subway is not selling sandwiches. It’s selling hope to a well-defined market segment, some of whose members may have been at wit’s end on the way at long last to lose weight…
The campaign is better than it appears to be on first glance. It’s more than a retail campaign. It is effective brand marketing, establishing an intimate relationship with consumers.
Yes, Subway sells sandwiches. More important, Subway is a glimmer of hope for people with a personal problem. Subway is a sympathetic friend."
From: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3190/is_28_35/ai_76561342
[quote]Asgardian wrote:
Subway can be far and away the best “fast” food you can find. It can also be complete garbage just like the rest, and will never be a full time substitute for a grocery store and preparing your own meals.
Easy on the cheese, wheat bread, all the veggies you can load on (spinach is better than their lettuce), little to no sauce/oil, and no soda. Viola. I usually get a double meat, 12 inch turkey, and use it as two smaller meals.
They know how to market their brand (with results, honest or otherwise), and beat everyone else to the “healthy” selling point. The Jared campaign has been going on since 2000. Here’s a marketing review I found.
"And so I wrote only briefly about the Fogle spots, believing that Subway had a good campaign going to promote its “7 under 6” line of seven sandwiches containing 6 grams of fat or less. It’s a promotional campaign, nothing more.
Now I confess that I had it wrong. I initially analyzed the campaign as a bystander, not as a member of the target market. In reality Subway is not selling sandwiches. It’s selling hope to a well-defined market segment, some of whose members may have been at wit’s end on the way at long last to lose weight…
The campaign is better than it appears to be on first glance. It’s more than a retail campaign. It is effective brand marketing, establishing an intimate relationship with consumers.
Yes, Subway sells sandwiches. More important, Subway is a glimmer of hope for people with a personal problem. Subway is a sympathetic friend."
From: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3190/is_28_35/ai_76561342
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See! Dogma
yes yes yes… we can make healthier choices, but it’s like Subway and Starbucks are converting the world.
Haha, what we need is a Subway: “Supersize Me” type documentary, where someone eats nothing but subway and intentionally makes poor choices, just to balance things out. Any volunteers?
The subway I eat at is in a food court, and the worst is it seems like there’s always a different one of their obese employees on a meal break eating the pizza or Wendy’s from across the room in their subway uniform. I wonder if they encourage their overweight employees to eat other fast food in their subway uniforms? (Tongue in cheek)
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
See! Dogma
yes yes yes… we can make healthier choices, but it’s like Subway and Starbucks are converting the world.[/quote]
Weak-minded people instinctively look for the easy way out. If you told them that weight loss was going to be hard, and then on top of that they’d want to build some muscle to look good (which is even harder), then none of them would do it.
The main problem is the additional crap they try and give you. I find no problem with Subway if all I have is the wheat bread, veges and grilled chicken (Salt and pepper too).
It’s good for convenience, but you can usually make it at home for cheaper. Apparently, if your overweight, your time is worth so much you have to resort to fast food.
Holy shit I just read the article Chris Shugart wrote…
…I didn’t know Subway was selling foot-long subs for just $5! Nice!
[quote]Padilla7921 wrote:
It was Shugs.
And anyway, I think Subway is a good alternative and definitely a better option than a Whopper[/quote]
No, not really. A Whopper Jr. is one of the more innocuous items on any fast food menu. Registered & Protected by MarkMonitor
[quote]Makavali wrote:
A better idea is to not publicly fund medical expenses bought on by obesity.[/quote]
Good luck with that.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
yes yes yes… we can make healthier choices, but it’s like Subway and Starbucks are converting the world.[/quote]
Oh, come on. I’m sure you can’t survive without your nonfat milk grande sugar-free vanilla half-caf caramel macchiato.
Just for funs… It turns out that due to the simple cost of living more years on the planet, healthy people are actually more of a financial burden to the health care system than smokers or obese people:
All of us here at T-Nation may actually end up costing more than our Wal-Mart-Motorized Vehice-Riding brethren.
The problem is that people are idiots, plain and simple. They don’t know what’s healthy for them and when they hear “healthy” on a commercial they go crazy. They don’t read the fine print and they don’t care to. People need to be more active and informed about their health.
Shame on Subway for indoctrinating kids and ignorant people alike with their senseless banter. Like OG said, they’re thinking that a foot-long sandwich is the healthiest option. Sure, it’s not the absolute worst thing out there, but it’s far from the worst. Also, they’re being trained on size rather than content. People put all sorts of stuff on their subs, extra cheese or meat, a ton of different sauces, etc.
Here in America, our economic system has changed from capitalism to a lesser form of it, corporatism. Big companies control the economy and have a huge influence on government and the people. Also, the media is partly to blame, because they only focus on whatever boosts their ratings and makes them money. That doesn’t mean consumers aren’t at fault, but accountability and responsibility needs to be present at every level.
I don’t see the health problem here in America getting better anytime soon. Companies are capitalizing off of it and the people are going crazy for a “quick fix.” It’s quite sad, actually. If they took five to ten minutes to look up basic nutritional principles they’d realize how to get healthy. Unfortunately, they’re too lazy. What a vicious cycle, eh?
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Is this a Subway customer?[/quote]
No he (was) on roids!
If you saw the program you’d know that feeding your kids junk isn’t the worst thing. Its not just in the USA either.
http://www.channel4.com/health/microsites/W/worlds_biggest_boy/index.html
This is a better read:
What the hell is wrong with Subway?
What is wrong with this website? Whole wheat bread, a pile of veggies and turkey or roast beef is a great choice for fast food. Why would anyone complain?
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
What the hell is wrong with Subway?
What is wrong with this website? Whole wheat bread, a pile of veggies and turkey or roast beef is a great choice for fast food. Why would anyone complain?[/quote]
While I mostly agree with this statement, I think you missed the point of the thread. The government is pushing Subway onto kids as being healthy, as opposed to pushing kids to prepare their own, healthier meals. There are things you can get at Subway that rival the other fast food places, and kids will believe it is healthy because it is Subway, which is not necessarily the case.
That being said, I like Subway. Foot long grilled chicken with a couple toppings and I’m good to go.
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Just for funs… It turns out that due to the simple cost of living more years on the planet, healthy people are actually more of a financial burden to the health care system than smokers or obese people:
All of us here at T-Nation may actually end up costing more than our Wal-Mart-Motorized Vehice-Riding brethren.[/quote]
Yeah, but since we’re living more years, we’re also putting more money back into the economy, effectively lowering our cost to the government.
Here’s the problem with those of you thinking a fat tax is a good idea. They might be good if everyone was wealthy, but most people (as a percentage) who are obese are of a lower socioeconomic status and cannot afford to eat healthy. They are obese b/c they buy junk food, b/c it is cheap food, and also happens to be calorie dense, which is why they become fat. Think about it, box of kd for dollar something and 2L soda for just over a dollar versus some lean meet, veggies, and whatever else. The basic food commodities cost a lot. Milk where I live is 7.11 per gallon, regular ground beef is 9/kg, if you want skinless bnonless chicken it is 20/kg, a 3lb bag of apples is $5 usually.
If the government does anything, it ought to be subsidizing healthy foods, not putting another tax on junk food. All that is going to do induce undue hardship on those who are already poor.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
What the hell is wrong with Subway?
What is wrong with this website? Whole wheat bread, a pile of veggies and turkey or roast beef is a great choice for fast food. Why would anyone complain?
While I mostly agree with this statement, I think you missed the point of the thread. The government is pushing Subway onto kids as being healthy, as opposed to pushing kids to prepare their own, healthier meals. There are things you can get at Subway that rival the other fast food places, and kids will believe it is healthy because it is Subway, which is not necessarily the case.
That being said, I like Subway. Foot long grilled chicken with a couple toppings and I’m good to go.[/quote]
The government pushes a lot of nutritional misconceptions but I don’t see them force feeding kids Subway sandwiches. Subway is often a better choice than what is served in the school cafeteria.
My kids are not learning about Subway in school (yet) but when they do I doubt they will be taught that cookies and chips from Subway are a healthy choice.
[quote]js385787 wrote:
Here’s the problem with those of you thinking a fat tax is a good idea. They might be good if everyone was wealthy, but most people (as a percentage) who are obese are of a lower socioeconomic status and cannot afford to eat healthy. They are obese b/c they buy junk food, b/c it is cheap food, and also happens to be calorie dense, which is why they become fat. Think about it, box of kd for dollar something and 2L soda for just over a dollar versus some lean meet, veggies, and whatever else. The basic food commodities cost a lot. Milk where I live is 7.11 per gallon, regular ground beef is 9/kg, if you want skinless bnonless chicken it is 20/kg, a 3lb bag of apples is $5 usually.
If the government does anything, it ought to be subsidizing healthy foods, not putting another tax on junk food. All that is going to do induce undue hardship on those who are already poor. [/quote]
What the government should do is stop subsidizing corn and then HFCS will not be so cheap and will not be used in everything.
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
I don’t remember who said this, but it was one of the authors. Shit is shit, no matter how it is disguised.[/quote]
That would be Chris Shugart when talking about his daughter buying the 100 cal snack packs.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
What the hell is wrong with Subway?
What is wrong with this website? Whole wheat bread, a pile of veggies and turkey or roast beef is a great choice for fast food. Why would anyone complain?[/quote]
Hmmm I kinda agree here.
I get the ham and turkey, double the meat, 6inch sub on wheat. Add in a ton of veggies and vinegar (not oil!) and you have a pretty good lunch there. Although it is high in sodium.