[quote]tgatl wrote:
In every job there will always be good and bad people.
Teachers
Cops
Fitness trainers
Realestate
On and On
Just be true to yourself, true to your family and true to others.
Karma will come around to fuck the bad people on our society. [/quote]
That is not fair. Karma is hot as hell. She should fuck the good people.
[quote]Rah-Knee wrote:
here’s a brilliant idea. don’t start fights with cops. don’t break laws and wind up in boot camps because of it. that way “pigs” won’t “beat the fucking shit out of you”. entirely this kids fault. fuck him.[/quote]
This from a guy that has no idea how many laws there are. My grandmother breaks laws daily that she is not aware of.
[quote]human743 wrote:
Rah-Knee wrote:
here’s a brilliant idea. don’t start fights with cops. don’t break laws and wind up in boot camps because of it. that way “pigs” won’t “beat the fucking shit out of you”. entirely this kids fault. fuck him.
This from a guy that has no idea how many laws there are. My grandmother breaks laws daily that she is not aware of.[/quote]
She doesn’t know prostitution is illegal?
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
human743 wrote:
Rah-Knee wrote:
here’s a brilliant idea. don’t start fights with cops. don’t break laws and wind up in boot camps because of it. that way “pigs” won’t “beat the fucking shit out of you”. entirely this kids fault. fuck him.
This from a guy that has no idea how many laws there are. My grandmother breaks laws daily that she is not aware of.
She doesn’t know prostitution is illegal?[/quote]
Actually she prefers to call them “floosie streetwalkers”
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
…
My bad. Mazilla, MaloVerde, its all the same to those of us that are pretty low on the literacy totem pole. (me)
Looks like you could be a prison guard in Kansas.[/quote]
I have been trying to teach myself to chew tobacco, but I keep throwing up. Luckily, the state troopers love people with low literacy,(and reasoning) skills.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
She doesn’t know prostitution is illegal?[/quote]
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
…
My bad. Mazilla, MaloVerde, its all the same to those of us that are pretty low on the literacy totem pole. (me)
Looks like you could be a prison guard in Kansas.[/quote]
Now THERE is the love!
[quote]PGA wrote:
ikkenhissatsu wrote:
For cryin out loud PGA. You make it sound like these guards tag teamed the guy. I watched the video and I never saw more than three guards in contact with him at one time. Bad footage and as someone in the thread said, “you don’t know the surrounding circumstances.”
Further more if you watch these guys they never appear to be doing more than controlling him with tactics that guards as well as cops are trained to use. For the most part they look relaxed. I didn’t see him being “SLAMMED” to the ground at all.
With that being said, let me add that I hate it when people bash law enforcement as a whole PGA, I hope one day you have the opportunity to be in that poor boys neighborhood and find out first hand what probably got him into boot camp in the first place. Maybe one of us punk ass pigs will save your ass. Maybe not.
Not only do you lack professionalism, pointed out by one of your bretheren, you’re also terrible at looking at the evidence. You CLEARLY didnt read this thread. You jumped to conclusions and made up my disposition in your head. I hope your police work isnt as shotty as your thread reading skills. I said NUMEROUS times in this thread that NOT ALL cops are bad.
In case you missed it…
"Nobody is saying cops are bad as a whole, well at least I’m not, but thanks for generalizing and assuming.?
There was this one also…
“No where did I say ALL COPS.”
Did you miss this, it was the FIRST sentence of the thread. I highlighted words that should be glaring apparent that I was not generalizing cops from the get go. But had you had the mental stability to actually read posts before going on something one might call a “rage” you would have noticed it…
“Yeah thats right I’m calling these punk ass mother fucking cops, pigs”
[/quote]
This will probably be the one and only time I respond to one of your cop posts as I don’t have much respect for what you put on here.
If someone came on here and constantly said " not all [fill in the blank racial or ethnic group] are bad." Then, every
chance he got he found an article or news story about [fill in the blank racial or ethnic group] doing something wrong(and it should be noted that we are only talking about possible wrongdoing in some of these police situations) and posted it with a bunch of ranting about that group, complete with racial slurs, (“pigs” essentially being the equivalent) we should still think that person is reasonable and not carrying a bizarre bias?
Oh wait, I can already hear the screeching about never criticizing the police when they are wrong and so forth.
I’m not saying that. I’m saying there are two ways to do it, an educated open minded way, and a childish, biased way.
You always chose the latter. As a cop, I know better than any of you how many screw ups go on. Whenever I see it in my personal career, I do the right thing…try and find a solution to it so it doesn’t happen again. I’ve never read anything from you that was constructive…just venom.
I’m reminded of the famous man in the arena statement by Teddy Roosevelt.
“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”
You are the critic. You’ll never shoot the wrong person by mistake or make a call that is wrong and costs someone dearly, despite your best efforts and intentions. You know why? Because you are not the man in the arena. You don’t go into the dark places or the homes of violent people to maintain order and protect life. You aren’t faced with extreme situations and you will never no what it is like. You are in a very safe place, making smart-ass remarks from behind a keyboard.
A fellow officer above got pretty angry with your shit and made a comment about not helping you that maybe he regrets. I understand where his anger comes from, but let me say this. If you ever wound up in my jurisdiction, even if I knew you were Mr. PGA the petulant cop-hater, I would help you if you needed it. I would hook the defib to your chest if your heart stopped, I would wrestle the drunk who was kicking your ass in a bar, I would fight the guy who broke in your home to kill you.
Maybe you should sit down and think for a few minutes where this strange hatred comes from. I suspect there is still a lot of growing up you need to do and this strange grudge you carry probably stems from a weak ego.
I’m sure a lot of cops read some of the garbage you post and just shake their heads. Its really nothing new to us and that is why so few respond to what you put up here.
I’ve said my piece.
[quote]JD430 wrote:
I understand where his anger comes from, but let me say this. If you ever wound up in my jurisdiction, even if I knew you were Mr. PGA the petulant cop-hater, I would help you if you needed it. I would hook the defib to your chest if your heart stopped, I would wrestle the drunk who was kicking your ass in a bar, I would fight the guy who broke in your home to kill you.
[/quote]
You shouldnt need to be a cop to do those things. Its called being a human being.
I’m a cop hater but I seem to have a good rapport with a cop from this site.
I’m not going to point out where I;ve said commendable things about cops. I defended the cop who ASKED a question to other officers if they thought they were chubby and were fired. I said we need more officers like another officer on this site.
Sure my posts have been calling out disgusting officers but that doesnt mean shit. I’ve called out people from all professions that sicken me, not just cops. Sorry if some of your bretheren are disgusting sacks of shit.
[quote]JD430 wrote:
This will probably be the one and only time I respond to one of your cop posts as I don’t have much respect for what you put on here.
If someone came on here and constantly said " not all [fill in the blank racial or ethnic group] are bad." Then, every
chance he got he found an article or news story about [fill in the blank racial or ethnic group] doing something wrong(and it should be noted that we are only talking about possible wrongdoing in some of these police situations) and posted it with a bunch of ranting about that group, complete with racial slurs, (“pigs” essentially being the equivalent) we should still think that person is reasonable and not carrying a bizarre bias?
Oh wait, I can already hear the screeching about never criticizing the police when they are wrong and so forth.
I’m not saying that. I’m saying there are two ways to do it, an educated open minded way, and a childish, biased way.
You always chose the latter. As a cop, I know better than any of you how many screw ups go on. Whenever I see it in my personal career, I do the right thing…try and find a solution to it so it doesn’t happen again. I’ve never read anything from you that was constructive…just venom.
I’m reminded of the famous man in the arena statement by Teddy Roosevelt.
“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”
You are the critic. You’ll never shoot the wrong person by mistake or make a call that is wrong and costs someone dearly, despite your best efforts and intentions. You know why? Because you are not the man in the arena. You don’t go into the dark places or the homes of violent people to maintain order and protect life. You aren’t faced with extreme situations and you will never no what it is like. You are in a very safe place, making smart-ass remarks from behind a keyboard.
A fellow officer above got pretty angry with your shit and made a comment about not helping you that maybe he regrets. I understand where his anger comes from, but let me say this. If you ever wound up in my jurisdiction, even if I knew you were Mr. PGA the petulant cop-hater, I would help you if you needed it. I would hook the defib to your chest if your heart stopped, I would wrestle the drunk who was kicking your ass in a bar, I would fight the guy who broke in your home to kill you.
Maybe you should sit down and think for a few minutes where this strange hatred comes from. I suspect there is still a lot of growing up you need to do and this strange grudge you carry probably stems from a weak ego.
I’m sure a lot of cops read some of the garbage you post and just shake their heads. Its really nothing new to us and that is why so few respond to what you put up here.
I’ve said my piece.[/quote]
That’s a great quote, and a very nice post.
[quote]JD430 wrote:
PGA wrote:
ikkenhissatsu wrote:
For cryin out loud PGA. You make it sound like these guards tag teamed the guy. I watched the video and I never saw more than three guards in contact with him at one time. Bad footage and as someone in the thread said, “you don’t know the surrounding circumstances.”
Further more if you watch these guys they never appear to be doing more than controlling him with tactics that guards as well as cops are trained to use. For the most part they look relaxed. I didn’t see him being “SLAMMED” to the ground at all.
With that being said, let me add that I hate it when people bash law enforcement as a whole PGA, I hope one day you have the opportunity to be in that poor boys neighborhood and find out first hand what probably got him into boot camp in the first place. Maybe one of us punk ass pigs will save your ass. Maybe not.
Not only do you lack professionalism, pointed out by one of your bretheren, you’re also terrible at looking at the evidence. You CLEARLY didnt read this thread. You jumped to conclusions and made up my disposition in your head. I hope your police work isnt as shotty as your thread reading skills. I said NUMEROUS times in this thread that NOT ALL cops are bad.
In case you missed it…
"Nobody is saying cops are bad as a whole, well at least I’m not, but thanks for generalizing and assuming.?
There was this one also…
“No where did I say ALL COPS.”
Did you miss this, it was the FIRST sentence of the thread. I highlighted words that should be glaring apparent that I was not generalizing cops from the get go. But had you had the mental stability to actually read posts before going on something one might call a “rage” you would have noticed it…
“Yeah thats right I’m calling these punk ass mother fucking cops, pigs”
This will probably be the one and only time I respond to one of your cop posts as I don’t have much respect for what you put on here.
If someone came on here and constantly said " not all [fill in the blank racial or ethnic group] are bad." Then, every
chance he got he found an article or news story about [fill in the blank racial or ethnic group] doing something wrong(and it should be noted that we are only talking about possible wrongdoing in some of these police situations) and posted it with a bunch of ranting about that group, complete with racial slurs, (“pigs” essentially being the equivalent) we should still think that person is reasonable and not carrying a bizarre bias?
Oh wait, I can already hear the screeching about never criticizing the police when they are wrong and so forth.
I’m not saying that. I’m saying there are two ways to do it, an educated open minded way, and a childish, biased way.
You always chose the latter. As a cop, I know better than any of you how many screw ups go on. Whenever I see it in my personal career, I do the right thing…try and find a solution to it so it doesn’t happen again. I’ve never read anything from you that was constructive…just venom.
I’m reminded of the famous man in the arena statement by Teddy Roosevelt.
“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”
You are the critic. You’ll never shoot the wrong person by mistake or make a call that is wrong and costs someone dearly, despite your best efforts and intentions. You know why? Because you are not the man in the arena. You don’t go into the dark places or the homes of violent people to maintain order and protect life. You aren’t faced with extreme situations and you will never no what it is like. You are in a very safe place, making smart-ass remarks from behind a keyboard.
A fellow officer above got pretty angry with your shit and made a comment about not helping you that maybe he regrets. I understand where his anger comes from, but let me say this. If you ever wound up in my jurisdiction, even if I knew you were Mr. PGA the petulant cop-hater, I would help you if you needed it. I would hook the defib to your chest if your heart stopped, I would wrestle the drunk who was kicking your ass in a bar, I would fight the guy who broke in your home to kill you.
Maybe you should sit down and think for a few minutes where this strange hatred comes from. I suspect there is still a lot of growing up you need to do and this strange grudge you carry probably stems from a weak ego.
I’m sure a lot of cops read some of the garbage you post and just shake their heads. Its really nothing new to us and that is why so few respond to what you put up here.
I’ve said my piece.[/quote]
That was beautiful man.
[quote]PGA wrote:
You shouldnt need to be a cop to do those things. Its called being a human being.[/quote]
Give me a break. Not every human being is willing to risk his life every single day protecting people he doesn’t even know/knows hate him.
What he is saying is that despite your so-extreme-it’s-laughable hatred for police officers, he would still lay his life on the line to protect you. Not too many “human beings” would do that.
Not to speak for PGA, but I think he’s saying that he doesn’t actually hate all cops.
It’s understandable why people don’t like cops, it’s a vicious circle. Being a cop is quite often thankless, unfortunately. So they act like jaded assholes, piss people off and then people thank them even less.
I met a guy who at first I thought was crazy, and maybe he was… But I digress. His practice was to thank cops upon seeing them for the “great job they are doing.” He said he did that because people expect too much of cops and thank them too little .
I think it’s a good practice and if we can understand his reasoning maybe adopt it ourselves.
OK, done preaching, sorry bout that.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
ikkenhissatsu wrote:
For cryin out loud PGA. You make it sound like these guards tag teamed the guy. I watched the video and I never saw more than three guards in contact with him at one time. Bad footage and as someone in the thread said, “you don’t know the surrounding circumstances.”
Further more if you watch these guys they never appear to be doing more than controlling him with tactics that guards as well as cops are trained to use. For the most part they look relaxed. I didn’t see him being “SLAMMED” to the ground at all.
With that being said, let me add that I hate it when people bash law enforcement as a whole PGA, I hope one day you have the opportunity to be in that poor boys neighborhood and find out first hand what probably got him into boot camp in the first place. Maybe one of us punk ass pigs will save your ass. Maybe not.
LOL.
I think I’ll go kill a patient who offended me with a racist remark if I ever find them unconscious in need of medical attention. Maybe I’ll help them…maybe not.
There is something wrong if cops feel justified in contributing to or allowing the harm of someone else because they were criticized by them. A kid got killed here. Clearly your personal feelings with regards to how cops feel are what should matter most, right?
This comment was pure comic gold:
I never saw more than three guards in contact with him at one time[/quote]
Yes, my personal feelings with regards to how cops feel are what matters most, “IN THIS DISCUSSION” Your analogy in your first sentence makes no sense at all and I have no idea how you can come up with that comparison.
I’m not condemning or defending the officers that were discussed. I am defending my profession and the opening comments. Granted I didn’t read between the lines to know that not all cops or law enforcement persons were being offended. You think Michael Richards offended all black people or just the two that were heckling him?
[quote]MaloVerde wrote:
ikkenhissatsu wrote:
Maybe one of us punk ass pigs will save your ass. Maybe not.
You are a fine example of professionalism.
[/quote]
You have no idea the degree of my professionalism.
[quote]JD430 wrote:
PGA wrote:
ikkenhissatsu wrote:
For cryin out loud PGA. You make it sound like these guards tag teamed the guy. I watched the video and I never saw more than three guards in contact with him at one time. Bad footage and as someone in the thread said, “you don’t know the surrounding circumstances.”
Further more if you watch these guys they never appear to be doing more than controlling him with tactics that guards as well as cops are trained to use. For the most part they look relaxed. I didn’t see him being “SLAMMED” to the ground at all.
With that being said, let me add that I hate it when people bash law enforcement as a whole PGA, I hope one day you have the opportunity to be in that poor boys neighborhood and find out first hand what probably got him into boot camp in the first place. Maybe one of us punk ass pigs will save your ass. Maybe not.
Not only do you lack professionalism, pointed out by one of your bretheren, you’re also terrible at looking at the evidence. You CLEARLY didnt read this thread. You jumped to conclusions and made up my disposition in your head. I hope your police work isnt as shotty as your thread reading skills. I said NUMEROUS times in this thread that NOT ALL cops are bad.
In case you missed it…
"Nobody is saying cops are bad as a whole, well at least I’m not, but thanks for generalizing and assuming.?
There was this one also…
“No where did I say ALL COPS.”
Did you miss this, it was the FIRST sentence of the thread. I highlighted words that should be glaring apparent that I was not generalizing cops from the get go. But had you had the mental stability to actually read posts before going on something one might call a “rage” you would have noticed it…
“Yeah thats right I’m calling these punk ass mother fucking cops, pigs”
This will probably be the one and only time I respond to one of your cop posts as I don’t have much respect for what you put on here.
If someone came on here and constantly said " not all [fill in the blank racial or ethnic group] are bad." Then, every
chance he got he found an article or news story about [fill in the blank racial or ethnic group] doing something wrong(and it should be noted that we are only talking about possible wrongdoing in some of these police situations) and posted it with a bunch of ranting about that group, complete with racial slurs, (“pigs” essentially being the equivalent) we should still think that person is reasonable and not carrying a bizarre bias?
Oh wait, I can already hear the screeching about never criticizing the police when they are wrong and so forth.
I’m not saying that. I’m saying there are two ways to do it, an educated open minded way, and a childish, biased way.
You always chose the latter. As a cop, I know better than any of you how many screw ups go on. Whenever I see it in my personal career, I do the right thing…try and find a solution to it so it doesn’t happen again. I’ve never read anything from you that was constructive…just venom.
I’m reminded of the famous man in the arena statement by Teddy Roosevelt.
“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”
You are the critic. You’ll never shoot the wrong person by mistake or make a call that is wrong and costs someone dearly, despite your best efforts and intentions. You know why? Because you are not the man in the arena. You don’t go into the dark places or the homes of violent people to maintain order and protect life. You aren’t faced with extreme situations and you will never no what it is like. You are in a very safe place, making smart-ass remarks from behind a keyboard.
A fellow officer above got pretty angry with your shit and made a comment about not helping you that maybe he regrets. I understand where his anger comes from, but let me say this. If you ever wound up in my jurisdiction, even if I knew you were Mr. PGA the petulant cop-hater, I would help you if you needed it. I would hook the defib to your chest if your heart stopped, I would wrestle the drunk who was kicking your ass in a bar, I would fight the guy who broke in your home to kill you.
Maybe you should sit down and think for a few minutes where this strange hatred comes from. I suspect there is still a lot of growing up you need to do and this strange grudge you carry probably stems from a weak ego.
I’m sure a lot of cops read some of the garbage you post and just shake their heads. Its really nothing new to us and that is why so few respond to what you put up here.
I’ve said my piece.[/quote]
Brilliant. Thank you for your input JD, you have much more restraint than myself. I’d like to comment on what you said though. I do not regret what I said to PGA but I do appologize for not being clear in my last line saying, "Maybe one of us punk ass pigs will save your ass. Maybe not. As I do not expect anyone to read between my lines. My intent was to say that maybe there will be a cop THERE TO HELP. Maybe not.