[quote]Martin Berkhan wrote:
a ton of bullshit…[/quote]
Why are you on this site? You aren’t going to find many around here that give two shits about you or your “protocol”? You make it sound like a damn religion and that if I don’t think exactly like you I am going to hell. Personally I think it’s about as lazy as it gets when it comes to nutrition. You can’t figure out how to successfully eat throughout the day like a normal human being, so you develop this “protocol” where you only need to eat once a day. Then claim it’s the greatest thing ever instead of telling it like it really is- LAZY.
Go peddle you narcissistic bullshit elsewhere. If you can make money off of it that’s fine. More power to you. But all of the real world experience (read- your experience and a few others) isn’t going to change anything. Find me some actual scientific studies, performed in a controlled manner and documented correctly, and then maybe we can talk.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
What pissed me off was that other dude was using your blog site as some sort of proof that he was right and everyone else is wrong.[/quote]
I used the words “can work quite well”,… nothing about a proof nor that eating once a day (or overfeeding over a short period daily) works well for anyone or better than 6 times a day.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Why are you on this site? You aren’t going to find many around here that give two shits about you or your “protocol”?[/quote]
speak for yourself,… some people are here to learn new things and I’m pretty sure that includes the majority of people on this site,… but then some might get uncomfortable and defensive when something goes against what they think is right.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Personally I think it’s about as lazy as it gets when it comes to nutrition. You can’t figure out how to successfully eat throughout the day like a normal human being, so you develop this “protocol” where you only need to eat once a day. Then claim it’s the greatest thing ever instead of telling it like it really is- LAZY.[/quote]
lol, I felt this one coming,… maybe if it’s too easy then it isn’t cool anymore and you don’t feel like you are accomplishing anything anymore and making you feel like the hardcore and dedicated bodybuilder you see yourself as instead of the lazy average joe… this is a perfect example of the overanalyzing, more is better bullshit which often makes people complicate things just for the sake of complicating them,… often the simple stuff simply works best.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Go peddle you narcissistic bullshit elsewhere. If you can make money off of it that’s fine. More power to you. But all of the real world experience (read- your experience and a few others) isn’t going to change anything. Find me some actual scientific studies, performed in a controlled manner and documented correctly, and then maybe we can talk.[/quote]
now isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black,… you ask him for scientific studies like he is the only one that needs to prove his point but you don’t bring anything to the table yourself in terms of studies,… and BTW, I wouldn’t bother trying to find studies on meal frequency that back up your case since you won’t find much.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Why are you on this site? You aren’t going to find many around here that give two shits about you or your “protocol”? You make it sound like a damn religion and that if I don’t think exactly like you I am going to hell. Personally I think it’s about as lazy as it gets when it comes to nutrition. You can’t figure out how to successfully eat throughout the day like a normal human being, so you develop this “protocol” where you only need to eat once a day. Then claim it’s the greatest thing ever instead of telling it like it really is- LAZY.[/quote]
So eating small bunny rabbit meals 6-10 times a day is a admirable effort while eating 2-3 real meals is lazy? That sounds like intelligent reasoning.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Go peddle you narcissistic bullshit elsewhere. If you can make money off of it that’s fine. More power to you. But all of the real world experience (read- your experience and a few others) isn’t going to change anything. Find me some actual scientific studies, performed in a controlled manner and documented correctly, and then maybe we can talk.[/quote]
Yeah, damn if someone says anything thought provoking… Why can’t we all do it like we’ve done it for the last 10-20 years or so, like we learn from the big all-knowing gurus at “Flex” magazine and other such “reliable” sources…?
When it comes to scientific studies, how about if you start posting some scientific evidence that proves a bunny rabbit meal frequency more anabolic (and healthy)?
Oh, and I mean studies made on humans with actual meals, and not just infusion of amino acids into rats or something like that (though I doubt you’ll find much support there either).
(Sorry for the sarcastic tone, but your inmature and unreasonable posts just pissed me off).
Wow all of the little one-meal-a-day fags are coming out the woodworks now. I guess I’m outnumbered. Oh well.
As to studies on meal frequency- this entire site is testament to that. The irony of you all being on here getting this information for [i]free[/i] (since none of you have ever bought anything here and are just mooching off of them) is lost on you. And feel free to just take exactly what I say and re-phrase it as an insult back toward me. That’s all you guys are really capable of instead of actually coming up with something innovative to say.
I’ve said all I’m going to say on it. You guys all apparently belong to the same cult and it’s gotten to the point of just wasting my time now. We can agree to disagree on this one.
I think, if nothing else, the old adage that ‘there’s more than one way to skin a cat’ is relevant here.
I’ve never prescribed to a meal-a-day protocal, and quite frankly I’m not about to start now (I like eating too damn much), but as with anything there are many different methods and many different bodytypes…what works for one person may not work for another, and while frequent small meals ‘sounds’ like it works better than anything else out there, it doesn’t mean that it actually does.
To quote King Whitney Jr.: 'Change has a considerable psychological impact on the human mind. To the fearful it is threatening because it means that things may get worse. To the hopeful it is encouraging because things may get better. To the confident it is inspiring because the challenge exists to make things better. ’
How many times has the opinions of the nutritional value of something as simply as eggs changed over the years? They’ve gone from the most healthy, protein-enriched food possible to something that causes high cholesterol and heart problems to, once again, a very healthy source of protein.
I think examining the relative value of different diets, foods, training methods, and exercises can benefit every openminded individual on this site. How many times in a year do you switch up your routine, possibly trying something you read on here that might not be something you’ve tried before? Many of them don’t come with scientific data that says they work (granted, if you found it on this site it was probably written by one of the many experienced, expert authors), so you try it and after a few months determine if it’s something worth holding on to for later.
Why not do the same with a diet? Hell, I’ve tried everything from the Atkins diet to carb loading, 8-meal-a-day bulking routines and everything in between. Personally, I think I’ve settled on something that works for me and wouldn’t change it drastically at this point. But to me, I like to hear and read about people trying new things if only to see what’s worked for others and what I can gleen from their results.
WTF happened here? I made a comment about someone saying they would eat 1 huge dinner and starve themselves the rest of the day.
Which in that context was obviously not working and than a bunch of people talk about intermediate fasting (don’t know what it is and don’t really care, if it works for you COOL.) Than people say whats wrong with eating 3 meals a day… UMMMMMMM not the same thing, again if it works for you COOL.
Martin if you can deadlift 600lbs for 3 reps I would recommend doing a powerlifting meet you might be able to set some state records or something.
Now can we get this back on topic with talk about that guy who did nothing but chew gum and drink cranberry juice to lose weight?
[quote]Kalle wrote:
WTF happened here? I made a comment about someone saying they would eat 1 huge dinner and starve themselves the rest of the day.
Which in that context was obviously not working and than a bunch of people talk about intermediate fasting (don’t know what it is and don’t really care, if it works for you COOL.) Than people say whats wrong with eating 3 meals a day… UMMMMMMM not the same thing, again if it works for you COOL.
Martin if you can deadlift 600lbs for 3 reps I would recommend doing a powerlifting meet you might be able to set some state records or something.
Now can we get this back on topic with talk about that guy who did nothing but chew gum and drink cranberry juice to lose weight?
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It was just internet dick waving in fun. That’s why were all here isn’t it?
One of the worst diets I’ve ever heard of is the juicer diet. You know the one where you grind up all of your food into some sort of juice concoction and just drink that crap all day. Remember that infomercial with that old guy and the crazy eyebrows? It’s was a “low fat” 90’s diet I think.
[quote]Higher Game wrote:
eengrms76 wrote:One of the worst diets I’ve ever heard of is the juicer diet. You know the one where you grind up all of your food into some sort of juice concoction and just drink that crap all day. Remember that infomercial with that old guy and the crazy eyebrows? It’s was a “low fat” 90’s diet I think.
I agree, that was absolute garbage. I stick to reliable diets like the Velocity Diet.[/quote]
LOL. I knew someone would say this, as it doesn’t take much intelligence to make the comparison. Big difference with the V-Diet- it’s intended to be 28 days. The juicer guy said you could eat [i]forever[/i] like that.
The cabbage soup diet is “stellar”. Landed my mom in the hospital because she thought she was having a heart attack. They attached her to all kinds of fun machines and made her stay a full 24 hours…
My mom also going on crazy diets she makes up: the cucumber diet is her favorite. She eats cucumbers all day long, that’s it. Oh and coffee, black. Tasty.
I won’t even go into details about the competition diet my last trainer had me on. Suffice it to say it was approx 850 calories a day, no fat and then i was told to do 2+ hours of cardio a day plus an hour of weights. When I told her 2 hours was the max i could fit in my day, she suggested i take time off work to do cardio.
When it comes to loose weight all diets work IF YOU DO THEM.
Since you decrease the calories you’ll loose weight.
But people ,as you all know, loose lean mass because they starve themselves.