[quote]conservativedog wrote:
My daughter had a high school science report returned to her that had a personal note from the teacher stating that something she included mentioning god was unacceptable. He told her she would be hard pressed to find ANY credible scientists that believed in god.
He got an earful.[/quote]
That teacher was right, no science report in a high school should have any mention of God.[/quote]
My point to the teacher was made that he had no credible evidence to base his statement that there were not credible scientists that believe in god.
There are a number of very good DVD’s available that point out the fiction taught in school science and exposes just how much faith must be had to believe some of the theory not fact taught in school today.
How is it that this generation is so special and highly anointed that it gets to choose what is torn down when so many past generations revered these same things and turned away from things that are today put on a pedestal?
How is it that any mention of god at all is feared in public education when the founders of public school made the Bible one it’s first required readings? I guess they were all just dumber than a bag of hammers when they were forming this Republic called America. [/quote]
Gotcha. You were right, it’s crossing the line and fudging the truth to say that scientists don’t believe in God.
But, the teacher was right in that God doesn’t figure into science classes. I don’t know the specifics of the situation, but I can assure you that a religious answer is a wrong answer to pretty much every question asked in a basic science class.
That the founders believed something does not ipso facto make it worthy of our schoolrooms. I wouldn’t want my doctor to be trained in 18th century medicine, and neither would you.
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
My daughter had a high school science report returned to her that had a personal note from the teacher stating that something she included mentioning god was unacceptable. He told her she would be hard pressed to find ANY credible scientists that believed in god.
He got an earful.[/quote]
That teacher was right, no science report in a high school should have any mention of God.[/quote]
My point to the teacher was made that he had no credible evidence to base his statement that there were not credible scientists that believe in god.
There are a number of very good DVD’s available that point out the fiction taught in school science and exposes just how much faith must be had to believe some of the theory not fact taught in school today.
How is it that this generation is so special and highly anointed that it gets to choose what is torn down when so many past generations revered these same things and turned away from things that are today put on a pedestal?
How is it that any mention of god at all is feared in public education when the founders of public school made the Bible one it’s first required readings? I guess they were all just dumber than a bag of hammers when they were forming this Republic called America. [/quote]
Gotcha. You were right, it’s crossing the line and fudging the truth to say that scientists don’t believe in God.
But, the teacher was right in that God doesn’t figure into science classes. I don’t know the specifics of the situation, but I can assure you that a religious answer is a wrong answer to pretty much every question asked in a basic science class.
That the founders believed something does not ipso facto make it worthy of our schoolrooms. I wouldn’t want my doctor to be trained in 18th century medicine, and neither would you.[/quote]
18th century medicine is not a similar parallel to compare and argue with in this situation.
Let’s compare good and evil. Today good and evil is no different than in was the 18th century.
I would argue we are worse today in the crimes against those who can least defend themselves. Children especially and that is why we are debating this teacher in question. The teacher used her position of authority not for good but a selfish purpose in imposing her beliefs.
Good and evil, god and satan still here same as in the 18th century. There is a reason the Bible is known as the anvil that wears out all hammers. It is continuing to be backed up by both archeological and scientific discovery.
King David who slew the Phillistine giant Goliath as a young sheppard boy was scoffed at by archeologists as having been a legend or myth because no evidence had ever been unearthed that would prove he ever existed. Surely a King of his magnitude would have had a kingdom skeptics said: King David Evidence Seems to Have Been Found
Same with Pontius Pilate the governor who wanted to release Jesus but was forced by the angry mob to find him guilty and hence sentenced him to the most gruesome of life ending punishments - death by crucifixion. Roman history was very meticulous but no mention of this govenor could be found so it was again thought to be Jewish fiction until the last 30 years they found coins and various remnants of building with the name Pontius Pilate.
You will hear none of this from college professors or MSNBC or CNN.
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
My daughter had a high school science report returned to her that had a personal note from the teacher stating that something she included mentioning god was unacceptable. He told her she would be hard pressed to find ANY credible scientists that believed in god.
He got an earful.[/quote]
That teacher was right, no science report in a high school should have any mention of God.[/quote]
My point to the teacher was made that he had no credible evidence to base his statement that there were not credible scientists that believe in god.
There are a number of very good DVD’s available that point out the fiction taught in school science and exposes just how much faith must be had to believe some of the theory not fact taught in school today.
How is it that this generation is so special and highly anointed that it gets to choose what is torn down when so many past generations revered these same things and turned away from things that are today put on a pedestal?
How is it that any mention of god at all is feared in public education when the founders of public school made the Bible one it’s first required readings? I guess they were all just dumber than a bag of hammers when they were forming this Republic called America. [/quote]
Hard pressed to find a credible scientist that believes in God? Actually, he’s right there too.[/quote]
You may be surprised to find how much science today is converging with the Bible and not proving differently.
It’s true what your last sentence read, but the key word in your sentence is “FIND.”
In today’s politically correct atmosphere the media has corrupted facts and hid away anything scientific or archeological that would reflect positively on Judeo-Christian writings and belief.
I’ll give this parallel as example. In the United States we have liberal and conservative TV. One presents a unified front on everything Democrat related and blunts or hides MOST stories that would be considered damaging. The other comes forth with both and allows you to weigh each side.
The one I speak of that comes forth with BOTH in their “NEWS” and not always it’s political entertainment shows, carries the ratings that bests two of the cable networks ratings combined. I speak of Fox News vs. CNN and MSNBC news both combined.
If you only watched MSNBC you would get only half of the FACTS. You would never hear of the extraordinary lapses & gaffes Obama and Biden continue to make in front of cameras. Obama was caught on video with a live mic still on while secretly telling Russian President certain information. It was only after the conservative news allowed this out that all the others also reported. - YouTube
Obama mentioned he had visited 57 states a fact most U.S. kindergarten students would know that we have only 50 states. There are LITERALLY HUNDREDS of these out there, but who DID the liberal MEDIA continually unleash disparaging gaffes on? President Bush the Republican. He was and still is unmercilessly portrayed as the boob in a unified front known as socialist propaganda.
Huge Example: Newsweek magazine which to conservatives is considered “liberal” actually decided not to publish the infamous Monica Lewinsky/President Bill Clinton sex story.
They had it for months before DRUDGEREPORT broke the story.
Same parallel with science and god. There is a reason you do not often read or catch the TV media influenced by Judeo-Christian scientists. It is attempted to be hidden. Pull your own weight and do the research to be balanced in your opinion on this important matter.
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
My daughter had a high school science report returned to her that had a personal note from the teacher stating that something she included mentioning god was unacceptable. He told her she would be hard pressed to find ANY credible scientists that believed in god.
He got an earful.[/quote]
That teacher was right, no science report in a high school should have any mention of God.[/quote]
My point to the teacher was made that he had no credible evidence to base his statement that there were not credible scientists that believe in god.
There are a number of very good DVD’s available that point out the fiction taught in school science and exposes just how much faith must be had to believe some of the theory not fact taught in school today.
How is it that this generation is so special and highly anointed that it gets to choose what is torn down when so many past generations revered these same things and turned away from things that are today put on a pedestal?
How is it that any mention of god at all is feared in public education when the founders of public school made the Bible one it’s first required readings? I guess they were all just dumber than a bag of hammers when they were forming this Republic called America. [/quote]
Gotcha. You were right, it’s crossing the line and fudging the truth to say that scientists don’t believe in God.
But, the teacher was right in that God doesn’t figure into science classes. I don’t know the specifics of the situation, but I can assure you that a religious answer is a wrong answer to pretty much every question asked in a basic science class.
That the founders believed something does not ipso facto make it worthy of our schoolrooms. I wouldn’t want my doctor to be trained in 18th century medicine, and neither would you.[/quote]
18th century medicine is not a similar parallel to compare and argue with in this situation.
Let’s compare good and evil. Today good and evil is no different than in was the 18th century.
I would argue we are worse today in the crimes against those who can least defend themselves. Children especially and that is why we are debating this teacher in question. The teacher used her position of authority not for good but a selfish purpose in imposing her beliefs.
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I won’t argue with your worldview at all, but I will point out that good and evil don’t have anything to do with a high school science classroom either.
I’m not defending the teacher in this particular instance, as I don’t know the specifics. Maybe if you go into the situation in detail I’ll completely agree with you. But in general a science teacher is perfectly and completely right to keep the focus on science.
[quote]smh23 wrote:I won’t argue with your worldview at all, but I will point out that good and evil don’t have anything to do with a high school science classroom either.
I’m not defending the teacher in this particular instance, as I don’t know the specifics. Maybe if you go into the situation in detail I’ll completely agree with you. But in general a science teacher is perfectly and completely right to keep the focus on science.[/quote]
That’s fair.
Let me add:
He who controls the media controls the minds of the public… Noam Chomsky
…Television is altering the meaning of “being informed” by creating a species of information that might properly be called disinformation… Disinformation does not mean false information. It means misleading information - misplaced, irrelevant, fragmented or superficial information - information that creates the illusion of knowing something, but which in fact leads one away from knowing…
-Neil Postman
I think the same is happening in our colleges and universities, it has become very left leaning and one sided in my opinion. Happy lifting.
Al Gore, Sr. did not stop at simply voting against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. In addition, Congressional Quarterly reported that Gore attempted to send the Act to the Senate Judiciary Committee with an amendment to say “in defiance of a court desegregation order, federal funds could not be held from any school districts.” Gore sought to take the teeth out of the Act in the event it passed.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
“Compared to the KKK?”
That’s quite a stretch, no?[/quote]
Stupid Liberals - The KKK was PART of the Democratic party a century ago! LMFAO[/quote]
I understand what you are saying, and I agree with you to an extent, but I think there’s a chasmic difference between movies and decisions that affect the global political climate. [/quote]
Sure there is a huge difference. Why assume that the parents take the choice of who to support for president as lightly as they would what movie she goes to see?
Couldn’t agree with you more.
Not my intention, sorry if I came off that way.
I was more just challenging your thought process to try and further your contribution.
I understand what you are saying, and I agree with you to an extent, but I think there’s a chasmic difference between movies and decisions that affect the global political climate. [/quote]
Sure there is a huge difference. Why assume that the parents take the choice of who to support for president as lightly as they would what movie she goes to see?
Couldn’t agree with you more.
Not my intention, sorry if I came off that way.
I was more just challenging your thought process to try and further your contribution. [/quote]
Ironic how 95% of blacks vote for Obama because he’s half black but then cry racism when anyone points out his perceived solutions have not solved anything and things are worse.
This is not scientific but don’t you think blacks if given the opportunity would vote O.J. Simpson for president against any white candidate?
They wouldn’t consider that racist BUT me asking the QUESTION they WOULD consider racist!
[quote]Chushin wrote:
If you google the teacher’s name, you learn that she is black, and that race is, or at least has become, part of this story.[/quote]
Not for the teacher, assuming she is a Democrat. For liberals, since they have pretty much been on the wrong side of every bad decision since the boon of this country from slavery, jim crow, sharecropping, segregation, voting rights, marriage rights, civil rights, communism, abortion, gay unions, feminism, lax laws on criminals, letting lifers in the pen go on furloughs for the weekend to commit murder/rapes, &c.
It makes sense really, think about it…not saying all Democrats were Klansman, but all Klansman were Democrats. Not all Democrats are segregationists, but all segregationists are Democrats. You get my point. So, what’s the best way to make it seem like you’re not a Klansman? Accuse your opponent (whether that be a teenage girl in your math class or the party of the Civil Rights Act of 1964) of being a Klansman at any point convenient for you. I think the lady protests much, if you get my drift.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
If you google the teacher’s name, you learn that she is black, and that race is, or at least has become, part of this story.[/quote]
Her race is irrelevant - why hasn’t she been fired?
[quote]Chushin wrote:
If you google the teacher’s name, you learn that she is black, and that race is, or at least has become, part of this story.[/quote]
Her race is irrelevant - why hasn’t she been fired?[/quote]
Spend a month living in Detroit, Oakland, Chicago, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Washington DC, New Orleans, Los Angeles, cities that all take turns being the MURDER CAPITAL of the U.S.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
If you google the teacher’s name, you learn that she is black, and that race is, or at least has become, part of this story.[/quote]
Her race is irrelevant - why hasn’t she been fired?[/quote]
Spend a month living in Detroit, Oakland, Chicago, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Washington DC, New Orleans, Los Angeles, cities that all take turns being the MURDER CAPITAL of the U.S.
These cities all have one thing in common.[/quote]
[quote]Chushin wrote:
If you google the teacher’s name, you learn that she is black, and that race is, or at least has become, part of this story.[/quote]
Her race is irrelevant - why hasn’t she been fired?[/quote]
Spend a month living in Detroit, Oakland, Chicago, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Washington DC, New Orleans, Los Angeles, cities that all take turns being the MURDER CAPITAL of the U.S.
These cities all have one thing in common.[/quote]
[quote]Chushin wrote:
If you google the teacher’s name, you learn that she is black, and that race is, or at least has become, part of this story.[/quote]
Her race is irrelevant - why hasn’t she been fired?[/quote]
Spend a month living in Detroit, Oakland, Chicago, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Washington DC, New Orleans, Los Angeles, cities that all take turns being the MURDER CAPITAL of the U.S.
These cities all have one thing in common.[/quote]
I can find a hundred of these in an hour. The liberal media does a disservice by not connecting the dots and giving the full story because they do not want a race war until further down the road.
Am I a racist because these are posted? No and it’s pathetic that I even have to qualify the statement. I am not in any manner a racist. You cannot deny what is going on around us.
