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Whip snatch: I know not this exercise. Please describe?[/quote]
This is what I consider a whip snatch…
From a hang with little forward lean or knee bend, no pretension, just snatch it overhead, I catch it in a split.
It would probably be simplified if you pulled it off of a rack instead of from a hang, I’m sure there is a better name for it.
If you do train this way over time and then go back to a pretension style hang snatch or full snatch you should experience that a little extra pulling distance or pre-loading goes a long way.
[quote]bluejay wrote:
I usually take a extended periods off from lifting, up to two years, and then make a “come back” first usually with sporadic unstructured workouts typically they are brief, lift workouts. I’ll always make tremendous strength “recoveries” (re-gains)do just about anything for reps - high, low, medium.
Then when I start to feel great I’ll formalize my training and then the gains take big dump. I’ll add additional lifts and do what is “best” for increases in power/ strength. Has anyone else experienced this? The layoffs are usually preceded by major back spasms.
Examples are: a year and a half ago I built four stone retaining walls at my house over the course of two weeks using many stones that I could only roll into my subaru using a ramp. I gathered all of them from ditches in the country. I could lift and carry some of the smaller stone but they were still in excess of 100#'s.
I decided to test my deadlift after the walls were built and pulled 525# with 50#'s of chains for a rep and didn’t go heavier because I didn’t have any more weights, I also benched 350# with the chains as well after not having benched, or lifted anything besides the rocks for a year. I didn’t lift for a year after this and came back to it this spring and was up over 600# in the deadlift, without straps, after a month and out of boredom repped out at 315# in the dead with straps at 39 consecutive reps. My squat sucks now but I don’t really like to do them anymore.
I don’t do cardio in fact I was very sedentary other than walking the dog. I have always been a meat eater though and according to friends always look like I’ve been training. I’m a slim looking 6’2", 250# bw.
Maybe this is a stupid thread and I’m not sure what my point is but does anyone else relate?[/quote]
Structured is better than just going into the gym and training whatever. Why? Because the workout can be controlled and results can be actually shown. If you make linear increase in weight in a workout that you designed you can monitor your progress and see when your stalling etc.
The key is knowing yourself enough to be able to create a program suitable for yourself w/o overtraining.
Structured is better than just going into the gym and training whatever. Why? Because the workout can be controlled and results can be actually shown. If you make linear increase in weight in a workout that you designed you can monitor your progress and see when your stalling etc.
The key is knowing yourself enough to be able to create a program suitable for yourself w/o overtraining. [/quote]
I’m not saying that you should randomly run to the gym and just let the wind blow you from device to device, or maybe I did. What I was hoping to say is "can you just get strong randomly?? If you lifted enough rocks, played with a jack hammer enough, or did what ever, could you receive lesser, equal, or greater than results than following a specific training routine named by, for, or in spite of someone. I say yes in the beginning, or pre-beginning of lifting- i.e. comebackers, newbies, etc. Maybe some would call this GPP. Another thought I had was, if it can work in the beginning why couldn’t it continue to help you after you have begun gym training. Maybe it does-i.e. sled dragging etc.
Update; After 3 days of heavy boozing I decided to hit the weightroom today. Got a PR 405 deadlift. Not sure what if anything this proves . I do feel that other types of lifting do have a significant carryover and should be used as just another means of progress and change.
[quote]Tstud_9 wrote:
Update; After 3 days of heavy boozing I decided to hit the weightroom today. Got a PR 405 deadlift. Not sure what if anything this proves . I do feel that other types of lifting do have a significant carryover and should be used as just another means of progress and change.[/quote]
I have actually had a similar experience to this. A month and a half ago I smoked a pack of cigarettes in three days, I don’t usually smoke I don’t know why I did this, and a few days later I pulled 39 reps with 315 pounds in the deadlift.
I wasn’t especially gassed I just started locking up and couldn’t continue. Maybe drinking and smoking are good for strength?