Behave you
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Obligatory shout out to @T3hPwnisher
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Really appreciated it you. āBlack hole level darknessā has a solid ring to it. You handled those questions well too!
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Since Iāve started lifting Iāve been blown away by my level of recovery in the gym. I am flying through sessions. Getting some amount of work in around the 45-60 minute mark
I am watching guys manage 4 or 5 sets in the time it takes me to do 20
Iām sure @T3hPwnisher posted a video a while back where he blazed through a 531 workout in 20-30 mins and posted it as a point to show how quickly a good weights session can be done if youāre conditioning is on point
Honestly people, conditioning, conditioning, conditioning. Itās the game changer.
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Bu bu buuu buuu buuuttt, I want to be a fat unconditioned powerlifter 
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Haha @tlgains my man
My gym is full of these guys, waddling about with a big hoodie, metal water bottle and oversized sports bag. Thinking they are the fucking shit. Their RHR must be in the high 90s
And thereās sleep deprived me cutting about in the same jogging pants Iāve been wearing for 4 days straight, caked in toddler vomit. Blazing through workouts like a rabid wolverine
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Iāve become a fan of lifting by the clock. Depending on the lift and the weight, it might be an EMOM which really moves things along, or up to (but never past) go every 2 minutes for more taxing work like heavy squats or a very heavy set of a big barbell lift.
Unless someoneās goal is just totally top end strength at the expense of any semblance of conditioning (which should not really be the case for almost anyone), moving things along briskly and still progressing in weights is the way to go.
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Same here. I set a limit of 60 minutes.
Gone are the days when you could rock up to the gym and spend 45 minutes bantering with the boys and the other 90 minutes doing a few sets here and there 
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Hey man, just wanted to say youāre an inspiration - weāre about the same age and thanks to following your routines Iām doing things condition-wise that I didnāt believe were possible being middle ageā¦I mean, āyouth challengedā.
Although I must say that I dread each time you post new content on YT because I know some hellish tribulation is coming my way 
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The scientific consensus for the last 5 years, which is no longer even contested is that 3 minute rests between sets produce much more hypertrophy than 1 minute rests. For strength, 3-5 minute rests have been proven superior. There are like million studies on this now, and if you look into it, nowdays its basically a common knowledge.
So doing 3 sets in 10 minutes ia definetly doing the work. In my opinion, doing 5+ sets in the same time would be considered lazy and not willing to put in the work as muscle building and strength training is only 10% actual lifting. Much bigger part of it is food you stuff in when you dont wanna, and rests and recovery.
If all the fibers are not working because of a shorter rest, all you do is train the endurance fibers which is great but they also grow the least and add the least size tho.
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Thanks @loppar mate, really appreciate the kind words. Very honoured to have assisted in you getting up to scratch and warding off mother time
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In all fairness @hankthetank89 mate Iāve got to work to a clock
If that means sacrificing 89 grams of naturally built muscle then Iāll take the hit
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I love how I can train all of that via conjugate
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I donāt think anyone is doubting this. If youāre singly focused on absolute strength, then train with long rests and hit each and every set completely fresh and at 100% of your possible effort. Same if youāre training to be a world class sprinter: rest completely and totally after each sprint before going again. Basically, same for any singly focused skill or task.
But, Christian Thibadeau has discussed this in his Eternal Warrior templates (and plenty of others as well). For nearly everyone, you want to be a hybrid of strong and conditioned. You will look better, feel better, and perform better across a much broader spectrum of activities. If youāve seen my log, Iāve been doing Crossfit and Wendlerās Walrus training for the last year or so. I am fitter and more capable than ever. I probably canāt bench 300 lbs anymore, but I can throw on a weight vest and crank out 200 push ups, 100 pull ups, and 300 squats in less than 20 minutes. Is that lazy? If so, grab me a beer while my lazy ass reps out muscle ups.
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By lazy i ment it in a different way. I mean, everyone would love to get 20 sets done sprinting trough supersets and just be done. Sadly, correct food, rest, and recovery work is the biggest part of everything. And taking these long breaks, if you want the best results, is just as important. Not deloading, not recovering, not taking rests is just the same as skipping sets and training. Doing actual sets of exercises is the easiest and most fun part. Anyone can do curls. Not everyone can make em count and benefit from emā¦but thats just my opinion, so dont throw rocks at me 
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I think what youāre saying is absolutely true, BUT it is because ābestā means something different to you than me. I see my ābestā results when I combine strength and conditioning workouts. People should determine their own goals (or define their own best) and eat and train to meet them.
I also believe in strength and conditioning but my belief is that you shouldnt do both in same set. You do em on seperate days OR at least like 531 suggests, do strength followed by hypertrophy followed by conditioning.
I think that rushing through bench press and dips dont really give you full benefit of strength and hypertrophy and is also probably a weak choice for conditioning. So when working on the muscle, put in the work even tho rests do suck. I just think that cutting rests short make the hypertrophy work be less effective and then why do it? You can just do your regular conditioning instead.
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Sure, thatās fine. Iāve done that for years and it works great. You bring up 531, and itās interesting to note that Jim Wendlerās training has involved into combining the two. Articles heās recently written and being a member on his personal forum inspired me to do a deep dive Walrus-style training (which is really just a modified Murph workout from crossfit):
Put on a weight vest, crank out a mile on the Airdyne, and then do weight-vested strength circuits like push ups, pull ups, and squats. (or dips, rows, KB snatches). Get back on the bike, then do another round of circuits, etcā¦
I preferred the results I got from this type of work then the type you describe: heavy barbell work with long rest periods and then standalone conditioning sessions.