[quote]itsthetimman wrote:
Kuz wrote:
Professor X wrote:
ah_dut wrote:
you can get more neurologically efficient (read better at performing said movements) to gain strength, while size gains are predominantly based on how much you eat. Simple no?
This is true. “Learning” how to do an exercise will result in the weight you use for it increasing. This will manifest as a strength gain and is especially apparent in a beginner. Yes, size of muscle fibers do go along with strength. That means that while you may see SOME strength gain without an increase in size, eventually that will cease unless you gain more size to support more strength.
This is actually beginning to touch on a question I’ve long wondered about, but never heard a truly clear answer for. Let’s say you have two people of roughly the same height, weight, build and BF%, but one of them has better numbers in the “Big 3”. This is not an uncommon set of circumstances at all.
So for the person in the above example who does not have the same level of strength, what is usually at the root cause of that? Would that guy need to get bigger in order to increase his lifting totals? Is he just not as neurologically efficient?
I just find it interesting when I see situations even more different than the above, say, of a person with a smaller build and yet superior strength numbers of someone much larger.
I would say one guy can catch up to the other guy, to a certain degree. However, there is definitely the rate-limiting factor of genetics. Too many people place an emphasis on genetics, but in this situation, it could very well be the limiting factor.
Another limiting factor could be the pussy-effect. The guy that can’t lift as much is just a pussy and doesn’t want to lift heavy.
Personal experiences or lifestyles also help a lot in this regard. If you have one guy that has grown up on manual labor and the other just stays fit by going to the gym, chances are the former will be stronger than the latter.[/quote]
I agree with this. As much as genetics are blamed all to often, when it’s not enough effort in the work, they do play a role. If this wasn’t true more people would be able to become world class athletes.
While everyone can lift to their genetic best not everyone has the best genetics. Also, like timman said many people don’t know how to bring it in training to stimulate the best gains. Many factors, but if all else was equal, I say it boils down to genetics.
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