Strength = Size?

[quote]Tatsu wrote:
It’s a shame I bought Huge in a Hurry, but there are a lot of CW fanboys here. Anyone interested in this book, it isn’t even read?[/quote]

There are tons of fanboys. There is no doubt about that. Ever asked any of them to post pics of their progress?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Norvegicus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
MODOK wrote:
Norvegicus wrote:
forlife wrote:
MODOK wrote:
You want to train to get big? Lift heavier and heavier weights in the “bodybuilding” rep range- roughly six to 15 reps. How in the hell can you folks complicate this so much?

Which is pretty much what I just wrote. Whether you’re talking about 8-10 or 6-15, the point is that low rep sets at extreme weights and high rep sets at low weights aren’t going to maximize muscle growth as much as medium range sets at heavy weights.

Waterbury seems to think heavy weights at low rep multiple sets works for muscle gain

Waterbury just says shit so you will buy his program, because its different than everyone else. Have you ever read his stuff? Most of its is useless, and some of it is downright psychotic. Terminating a set as soon as your reps SLOW DOWN? LOL Not to mention the practical evidence of how huge Mr. Waterbury is himself…

I am still waiting for pictures of these huge bodybuilders who got built using his programs. I am also not sure why people into his stuff are even on this forum.

They never post pics of their progress. Hell, do most of the people here even make progress or do they just settle for making lame ass posts that just show how much they don’t know?

I thought you were asking for fat fuckers

Oh, you’re hilarious.

This is me. Picture taken July 1st. Post your pic under this one so I can see how in shape I am supposed to be. While you are at it, find some pics of people training using Waterbury tactics who are more muscular.

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Wow you is huge in a sort of Paul teutul kind of way.

[quote]Norvegicus wrote:

Wow you is huge in a sort of Paul teutul kind of way.
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So, this is literally all you have to offer? How much do you weigh? How old are you? How long have you been lifting? Do you have the nuts to respond with a pic or is this all we have to look forward to?

[quote]Norvegicus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Norvegicus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
MODOK wrote:
Norvegicus wrote:
forlife wrote:
MODOK wrote:
You want to train to get big? Lift heavier and heavier weights in the “bodybuilding” rep range- roughly six to 15 reps. How in the hell can you folks complicate this so much?

Which is pretty much what I just wrote. Whether you’re talking about 8-10 or 6-15, the point is that low rep sets at extreme weights and high rep sets at low weights aren’t going to maximize muscle growth as much as medium range sets at heavy weights.

Waterbury seems to think heavy weights at low rep multiple sets works for muscle gain

Waterbury just says shit so you will buy his program, because its different than everyone else. Have you ever read his stuff? Most of its is useless, and some of it is downright psychotic. Terminating a set as soon as your reps SLOW DOWN? LOL Not to mention the practical evidence of how huge Mr. Waterbury is himself…

I am still waiting for pictures of these huge bodybuilders who got built using his programs. I am also not sure why people into his stuff are even on this forum.

They never post pics of their progress. Hell, do most of the people here even make progress or do they just settle for making lame ass posts that just show how much they don’t know?

I thought you were asking for fat fuckers

Oh, you’re hilarious.

This is me. Picture taken July 1st. Post your pic under this one so I can see how in shape I am supposed to be. While you are at it, find some pics of people training using Waterbury tactics who are more muscular.

Wow you is huge in a sort of Paul teutul kind of way.
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Grats dude you’re the most annoying troll ever. Can’t you go and be a dick somewhere else?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Norvegicus wrote:

Wow you is huge in a sort of Paul teutul kind of way.

So, this is literally all you have to offer? How much do you weigh? How old are you? How long have you been lifting? Do you have the nuts to respond with a pic or is this all we have to look forward to?[/quote]

My picture would be no more impressive than yours X. I would love to come train and take advice from you all day long if i wanted to be fat like you are. BB is more than laying on the lard

X your avatar shows a cartoon figure of a bloke of decent shape your photo shows a fat lardy bloke who knows how to eat

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Tatsu wrote:
It’s a shame I bought Huge in a Hurry, but there are a lot of CW fanboys here. Anyone interested in this book, it isn’t even read?

There are tons of fanboys. There is no doubt about that. Ever asked any of them to post pics of their progress?[/quote]

I wouldn’t even dare, CW workouts, no direct armwork, etc. etc… It’s always the same story in the discussions. People should think more for themselves, but that would implicit some reflectional skills.

Holy crap…this fool, Norvegicus is 42 years old?!!

LOL!!!

And thinks creatine caused his high blood pressure? I had forgotten about you.

Let me get this straight…

Nominal Prospect says (1) strength (defined: the ability to exert or resist force) doesn’t exist, using this point to jumpstart an argument that (2) adding weight to the bar and progressing is completely uneccessary for hypertrophy. He then backs up [I]this[I] claim by drudging up a whole host of quotes, many by well-known authors, saying that (3) training in the higher rep ranges (say 8-12) is better than training in the lower rep ranges (say 3-5) for maximal hypertrophy. Am I following this train wreck correctly?

Working backwards:

(3) - Why is this such a revelation? Common knowledge. However, training in the lower rep ranges in turn increases maximal strength much more quickly, which is very important if one wishes to progress as fast as they can.

(2) - This is where you fail. Are you trying to say that years upon years of training for the pump with TUT techniques using the same damn weight will produce even the same amount of growth as training in the same rep range but gradually adding weight to the bar??? This is beyong ludicrous, and ties into…

(1) - …this moronic assertion. So the kid that adds 200 lbs to his bench and 300 to his squat over a period of time just really, really nailed his technique, huh? Or maybe the growth and/or weight gain he experienced that reduced his ROM by maybe an inch were all he needed for massive increases? Give me a fucking break.


If you drill down training into the very bare-bones, core of it, lifting weights is simply a controlled breaking down of the muscle, which then repairs and rebuilds itself bigger and stronger than before, in order to better meet the demands placed upon it. It is an adaptive mechanism. Using heavy-ass weight for low reps tells the body that the muscle must be rebuilt stronger, but not necessarily bigger, although some size will be added. Extra glycogen is not needed, as TUT in this rep range is short enough to not require it. Using relatively lighter weight for much higher reps tells the body that rebuilding the muscle [I]bigger[I] is more metabolically important, although again some “strength” will come as well. Why? because the latter - sarcoplasmic hypertrophy - adds fluid to the muscle in the form of glycogen, myoglobin, etc, that is be needed to fuel the muscle should this demand be placed on it again, as high-rep, high-TUT will deplete muscle glycogen, unlike lower-rep training.

So if Bob curls the 30-lb DB for 12 reps and hits failure, then repeats this workout on arm day for 5 straight years, he won’t get much bigger than he did in the first 2 months or so. Why? [I]Because the demand on the muscle is exactly the same.[I] Why would it need to rebuild itself bigger (more fluid) or stronger? The body won’t adapt unless we make it adapt.

FINALLY - despite all the science and experts and all the other bullshit, lifting heavy-ass weight, even for low reps, will still produce considerable hypertrophy. Maybe not as much as lifting heavy-ass weight for HIGH reps, but you WILL get big. The proof? Dave Gulledge.

[quote]Norvegicus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Norvegicus wrote:

Wow you is huge in a sort of Paul teutul kind of way.

So, this is literally all you have to offer? How much do you weigh? How old are you? How long have you been lifting? Do you have the nuts to respond with a pic or is this all we have to look forward to?

My picture would be no more impressive than yours X. I would love to come train and take advice from you all day long if i wanted to be fat like you are. BB is more than laying on the lard[/quote]

Then show us your shredded physique or GTFO.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Holy crap…this fool, Norvegicus is 42 years old?!!

LOL!!!

And thinks creatine caused his high blood pressure? I had forgotten about you.[/quote]

Glad to make your acquaintance once more

[quote]Norvegicus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Holy crap…this fool, Norvegicus is 42 years old?!!

LOL!!!

And thinks creatine caused his high blood pressure? I had forgotten about you.

Glad to make your acquaintance once more
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Yeah…I doubt there is any insult someone could give you that will outdo what life has no doubt done to you if you truly think this way.

Have a great one.

[quote]doubleh wrote:
Norvegicus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Norvegicus wrote:

Wow you is huge in a sort of Paul teutul kind of way.

So, this is literally all you have to offer? How much do you weigh? How old are you? How long have you been lifting? Do you have the nuts to respond with a pic or is this all we have to look forward to?

My picture would be no more impressive than yours X. I would love to come train and take advice from you all day long if i wanted to be fat like you are. BB is more than laying on the lard

Then show us your shredded physique or GTFO.[/quote]

He spoke of bb.com earlier, that should be a great homebase for him.

Nothing wrong with BB.com some great physiques there

So where is yours?

Haha I never ever post but… X you are so damn big that this little tard can’t fathom that your leg weighs as much as him. Never mind the fact that he most likely squats what you curl. Or that his BF is probably higher than yours. Or maybe the fact that you carry 220+ LBM. No this little doucher is just sitting in his mom’s basement typing in between his World of Warcraft adventures, while waiting for his mommy to cut the crust off his bread so he can eat lunch.

Haha keep typing please

[quote]Norvegicus wrote:
Wheres yours?
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You are too dumb to click on a profile?

The troll norvegicus apparently created that account just for posts like this even though he had another. That account has been deactivated by the MODs but his original account may still be active.

I can’t believe any of you were taking him seriously. He mentioned how great bb.com, said creatine caused his high blood pressure and called X fat. Those are the oldest tricks in the book!

And you all let him get your panties in a bunch. You are all slipping.