Stop! Thief!

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[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
If you don’t have any kids or pets, set up some painful, and effective booby traps, then once you catch someone, put up some warning signs all over the area before the cops come so you can say they were warned.

I can’t stand that shit. Every time I’ve called the police for something, they take their sweet time to get there, and tell you there’s nothing they can do.

I’ve had an apartment broken into and my car audio equipment stolen (just before putting them in, and it was probably the people I bought them from). Cops take a report and serial numbers, can’t do anything more.

I had my wallet stolen from my car, and my credit cards were used AT A GAS STATION THAT HAD CAMERAS!!! and the police said they couldn’t do anything even when I told them to check the video from the gas station. The transaction has the date and time that the guy bought gas!!!

I was assaulted by a bouncer after stumbling on their steps and they thought I was too drunk to go in. I didn’t argue, I just said I had to call my wife who’s inside. The guy slaps the phone out of my hands, across my face (assaulted me when I was leaving), so I went at him and 3 other guys throw me out on the side-walk (literally). I call the cops, and they tell me to leave before I get arrested. I wrote a detailed, well written letter to their station with no reply.

I’m all for taking the law into my own hands now, no matter what the consequences. That’s because of my personal experience, first hand, with unfair, lazy law enforcement in multiple cities across many states.

I even had a friend pulled over for LEANING! He was tall, so his head wasn’t any lower than mine would be if I were sitting straight, and he’s black and wears baggy clothes. The Virginia Beach police are known for their racism against blacks, and their prejudices against younger military members.

I’ve even had a few officers who were friends of the family. I got along with them, but only because we knew them. One of them even admitted to giving harsher treatment to someone who rolls his eyes at him, because it’s one of his pet-peeves. [/quote]

Dude, VA Beach cops suck ass. My buddies and I were on the strip a while back. He drew cops attention for “spitting in the street”. They proceeded to question him about spitting, and started writing him a ticket. he made a simple joke about how he could mug someone and get away, but spitting in the street drew 4 cops to the scene. They then pinned him to the wall and started checking his pockets, frisking him. That’s when he started running his mouth and went to the precinct. He didn’t say anything to provoke a search on the street by 4 cops. It was ridiculous. I grew up in the Hampton Roads area, and VA Beach cops were the worst.

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I’m up in Scotland and it’s the same. If it happened to me and there was no one about I would deffinitly take the law into my own hands, so to speak.

If I thought that people were about to witness my actions then I probably wouldn’t, unless it was actually necessary. This kind of thing has never happened to me so it’s difficult to say what I would really do. I like to think I would turn into a savage beast and rip the guys limbs off - but I watch too many films, being honest.

I have had my car Stereo stolen. Turns out that it was a notorious street i parked in where junkies and all sorts seem to be lurking. I parked there a lot but it was the FIRST TIME i left the stereo face on. Got stolen… first time i left it there!!! bastards!

Since then, i have fantasised about parking on the same street, leaving my nice new Alpine stereo on display,and discreetly watch, then, when the scumbags make an attempt - POW!

lol, apologies, i get carried away sometimes… must be the testosterone :wink:

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Get a dog, best deterrent there is.

I had a Chow/Golden retriever mix. He was a wonderful family dog and fine if you were introduced, but come in my yard uninvited and I guarantee you would be leaving a trail of shit behind you.

Oh, and make sure you post signs.

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[quote]KPj wrote:
I’m up in Scotland and it’s the same. If it happened to me and there was no one about I would deffinitly take the law into my own hands, so to speak.

If I thought that people were about to witness my actions then I probably wouldn’t, unless it was actually necessary. This kind of thing has never happened to me so it’s difficult to say what I would really do. I like to think I would turn into a savage beast and rip the guys limbs off - but I watch too many films, being honest.

I have had my car Stereo stolen. Turns out that it was a notorious street i parked in where junkies and all sorts seem to be lurking. I parked there a lot but it was the FIRST TIME i left the stereo face on. Got stolen… first time i left it there!!! bastards!

Since then, i have fantasised about parking on the same street, leaving my nice new Alpine stereo on display,and discreetly watch, then, when the scumbags make an attempt - POW!

lol, apologies, i get carried away sometimes… must be the testosterone :wink:

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Where in Scotland are you?

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I stay in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire.

About 30 miles from Glasgow…

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Hey guys thanks for all the great suggestions and responses.

Ive calmed down a bit now and put some thought into the situation.

Firstly, a dog is out of the question unfortunately. I have 6 young brothers and sisters living at home and wouldnt feel comfortable with having a hound that could seriously damage a burglar near the kids.

Secondly, I hear what you are saying about saying Ive shot the dude/dudes to the cops but I dont think its a viable option. I dont want to be the boy who cries wolf for one thing and I would hate to think of a load of armed men swarming around the family home.

Thirdly, Im still contemplating taking serious action next time I catch someone. Mainly because If I dont Im worried that they will keep coming back and that one day my dad or one of my brothers (or God forbid one of the women in the family) will confront them when Im not there and end up getting knifed.

I did hear one brilliant way to combat the crooks today. A guy at work was telling me of a local electrician who was so sick of scummers breaking into his van at night that he wired it up to the mains! 240 volts of pain for anyone who tried to steal from him.

Sounds like a crazy idea but his life was being ruined and he talked it through with his wife and they decided that the peace of mind they would get was worth the risk of a possible sentence for manslaughter. I dont think I’l take things that far though : )

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I know the rules on this are different in UK and Europe as a whole, but since I live in the US here is my perspective.

If someone was on my personal property without my permission then I have to assume he or she is there not to help me but to hurt myself or my family.

I would get my revolver and try to call the cops if there was time.

I would do my best to sneak up on the person, crouch down on one knee, aim my gun, and yell for them to freeze and raise their hands. If they dropped stuff and ran I would let them go, if they froze and raised there hands I would wait for the police or now call the police, if they hesitated or turned I would empty my chamber center mass.

I don’t say this to seem like I’m a badass, but because it is exactly how I would handle the situation. If you are a possible threat to myself or family and I am within my legal rights to handle the situation with force, I will do so.

PS - Remember it is the responsibility of the police department to protect and serve the community not any one individual. We ought and should take the necessary steps to protect ourselves.

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[quote]solafide55 wrote:
I would get my revolver
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LOL, i love the US.

In scotland we still use big clubs and loud grunts to scare people.

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[quote]KPj wrote:
LOL, i love the US.

In scotland we still use big clubs and loud grunts to scare people.[/quote]

It worked for William Wallace.

Of course, he did also have a big fukin sawd, ya knuw? :slight_smile:

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[quote]Miserere wrote:
KPj wrote:
LOL, i love the US.

In scotland we still use big clubs and loud grunts to scare people.

It worked for William Wallace.

Of course, he did also have a big fukin sawd, ya knuw? :-)[/quote]

As soon as i read this i started laughing, fucking brilliant.

Anyway, i would probably conduct myself the same way as i would in public if someone threatened me or my property, tackle them and get them in a submission hold until they are unconscious, call the cops and keep them in a position where i am dominant. I’ve done it a couple of times if they have provoked it someway (IE they hit me)

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[quote]Ashes wrote:
I did hear one brilliant way to combat the crooks today. A guy at work was telling me of a local electrician who was so sick of scummers breaking into his van at night that he wired it up to the mains! 240 volts of pain for anyone who tried to steal from him.

Sounds like a crazy idea but his life was being ruined and he talked it through with his wife and they decided that the peace of mind they would get was worth the risk of a possible sentence for manslaughter. I dont think I’l take things that far though : )
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Don’t even joke, I was out on my balcony one night back in SA, and some fuck was climbing across after he’d broken into the place next door. I ran in to get a bat but obviously he was gone by then.

Well I put up a nice sign for the balcony claiming “high voltage” and my dad connected a transformer to the railings - 320v from the mains I think it was.

It’s still there today, but no victims yet.

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[quote]KPj wrote:
solafide55 wrote:
I would get my revolver

LOL, i love the US.

In scotland we still use big clubs and loud grunts to scare people.

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Fucking awesome. I wish I could get away with that here. Looks like I need to move to Scotland.

Think they’ll let me bring my axe?

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Ah yes, the wonderful state of “policing” in the UK.

Basically, if it doesn’t involve the police stopping you for speeding, you can guarantee they won’t do anything. Perhaps if you rang up and claimed you felt discriminated against in some way, you would have got a faster response.

I know of at least two people who rang up whilst they were being burgled only to have the police tell them that it would take in the region of four hours to respond. One of my friends had local “yoofs” jumping on top of his car, and was advised that the police would take nearly 6 hours to turn up.

However, what really stinks is that when the police do turn up, their honest response is largely that they won’t bother investigating the offence as nothing much will come of it.

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[quote]mazevedo wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
mazevedo wrote:
What the fuck is the deal with copper these days? I know the shit is worth a bit of money as scrap, but it’s got to the point where I’ve read in the paper about thieves climbing on top of restaurants at night to steal the copper piping going to the freezers and friges and shit like that. WTF. Damn tweekers.

It’s worth a good bit now. My brother is a plumber and has had to re-do entire jobs that had been ripped out over night.

I had to drive the supplies to the job site previously mentioned- A huge commercial refrigeration system with thousands of feet of copper(high diameter too), and a lot of people suggested I start carrying a side arm.

(a few $$ per lb.) x (a few thousand lbs.)= several thousand $$$$$.

I hear that. I work for a general contractor and I know our electrical sub-contractor has been fucked by tweakers several times, even though our jobsite is owned by a municipality and is next to an airport (pretty good security).

A few months ago, a few reels of wire were stolen. The cops ended up raiding a house where they found the empty reels (using serial numbers). In that same house there were all types of shit for cooking dope etc. the worst thing is that there were children in the house.

Tweekers should be shot.[/quote]

Speaking of scrap metals (and copper wire), I found a nice article in my local paper today:

http://www.modbee.com/local/story/13317680p-13944793c.html

The cops ended up nabbing a few tweakers off the streets despite the fact they didn’t catch anyone (yet) with stolen shit. The first few sentences tell you all you need to know. Good shit.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I read in the paper about a guy who’s garden shed was repeatedly burgled. Every time he called the police they promised to “Send someone around”, which usually translated to anywhere up to 4 hours later.

One evening as he was looking out of his window he spotted the signs of intruders rummaging through his shed.

Sick of the usual blase attitude of the local constabulary, he decided to take a risk. He rand the police and said “There are two intruders in my garden. I have just shot at them. You better come quick”. He hadn’t actually shot at anyone, didn’t even own a gun, but the police didn’t know that, and an armed response team, and about 5 squad cars came squealing up to the scene in about 2 minutes, and caught the would-be thieves red handed.

The cozzas tried to do the guy for wasting police time, but decided it wouldn’t be worth the time and effort, so let him off with a warning.

Thats what I would do personally. You get all the manpower, but at minimal risk of a criminal conviction for yourself…

bushy[/quote]

Depends, some jurisdictions might charge said person with filing a false police report, or even obstruction, if the could word the report creatively.

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[quote]Ashes wrote:
Hey guys thanks for all the great suggestions and responses.

Ive calmed down a bit now and put some thought into the situation.

Firstly, a dog is out of the question unfortunately. I have 6 young brothers and sisters living at home and wouldnt feel comfortable with having a hound that could seriously damage a burglar near the kids.

Secondly, I hear what you are saying about saying Ive shot the dude/dudes to the cops but I dont think its a viable option. I dont want to be the boy who cries wolf for one thing and I would hate to think of a load of armed men swarming around the family home.

Thirdly, Im still contemplating taking serious action next time I catch someone. Mainly because If I dont Im worried that they will keep coming back and that one day my dad or one of my brothers (or God forbid one of the women in the family) will confront them when Im not there and end up getting knifed.

I did hear one brilliant way to combat the crooks today. A guy at work was telling me of a local electrician who was so sick of scummers breaking into his van at night that he wired it up to the mains! 240 volts of pain for anyone who tried to steal from him.

Sounds like a crazy idea but his life was being ruined and he talked it through with his wife and they decided that the peace of mind they would get was worth the risk of a possible sentence for manslaughter. I dont think I’l take things that far though : )
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IF they didn’t see you first, you could just brain them with a bat, and dump them off somewhere’s else. Try to wear gloves.

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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Ashes wrote:
Hey guys thanks for all the great suggestions and responses.

Ive calmed down a bit now and put some thought into the situation.

Firstly, a dog is out of the question unfortunately. I have 6 young brothers and sisters living at home and wouldnt feel comfortable with having a hound that could seriously damage a burglar near the kids.

Secondly, I hear what you are saying about saying Ive shot the dude/dudes to the cops but I dont think its a viable option. I dont want to be the boy who cries wolf for one thing and I would hate to think of a load of armed men swarming around the family home.

Thirdly, Im still contemplating taking serious action next time I catch someone. Mainly because If I dont Im worried that they will keep coming back and that one day my dad or one of my brothers (or God forbid one of the women in the family) will confront them when Im not there and end up getting knifed.

I did hear one brilliant way to combat the crooks today. A guy at work was telling me of a local electrician who was so sick of scummers breaking into his van at night that he wired it up to the mains! 240 volts of pain for anyone who tried to steal from him.

Sounds like a crazy idea but his life was being ruined and he talked it through with his wife and they decided that the peace of mind they would get was worth the risk of a possible sentence for manslaughter. I dont think I’l take things that far though : )

IF they didn’t see you first, you could just brain them with a bat, and dump them off somewhere’s else. Try to wear gloves.[/quote]

Redneck justice. God bless America.

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The metal in a penny is actually more valuable than the penny itself now, about 2.1 cents, or so I hear.

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[quote]TornadoTommy wrote:
Next time, call the cops and say you shot the thieves with your trusty old .45. Since it’s illegal for the common citizen in the UK to possess a handgun, I guarantee you a much faster response time. [/quote]

Agreed, the UK is an Orwellian joke gone wrong. I pray that we in the U.S. are smart enough to learn from them—we likely are not. The idea behind things like disarmament in the U.K. is to force dependence upon the central government, allowing its citizens to become children, reliant upon big brother and no longer a threat to those in power.

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

mike

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Just carry a weapon. It’s better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

Self defense is a RIGHT that NO government can take away, because NO government can defend an individual in his moment of need.

Most of the gun control laws that exist in England stem from a 1920’s gun control law that was passed not because of crime, but because of fear of labor strikes. Have to protect the rich people’s income.