[quote]dmaddox wrote:
How does he know he is black?
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He’s blind. He still has a nose.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am not sure but the way I understand it , If Trayvon would have been an adult , he would have been justified in killing Zimmerman .
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Nope, because Trayvon punched first.
False. A minor cannot buy a firearm (until 18 at least in normal states), but a father or mother can give their own child a firearm.
My adoptive dad gave me my first rifle (a Ruger 10/22) when was 8 years old.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The way I understand the FLA law is that you are under no obligation to retreat . Go pick a fight , get your ass kicked , kill the person you picked a fight with so they do not kill you . [/quote]
You can’t punch first and rely on the SYG defense.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Nope, because Trayvon punched first.
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HOLY SHIT you are Psychic .
Even if Trayvon threw the first punch if some one were stalking me I would set them up for an ambush and at least beat the fuck out of them
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am not sure but the way I understand it , If Trayvon would have been an adult , he would have been justified in killing Zimmerman .
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Nope, because Trayvon punched first.
False. A minor cannot buy a firearm (until 18 at least in normal states), but a father or mother can give their own child a firearm.
My adoptive dad gave me my first rifle (a Ruger 10/22) when was 8 years old.[/quote]
Yeah you had a limited ownership at best . Ownership gives you the right to possess , sell or anything else you want to do with it. I can speak first handed I bought and sold several guns while I was a minor . I owned those guns , but if I would have gotten in trouble with one of those guns I would have seen the extent of the law
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
How does he know he is black?
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He’s blind. He still has a nose.[/quote]
So he can smell his blackness? lol
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Nope, because Trayvon punched first.
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HOLY SHIT you are Psychic .
Even if Trayvon threw the first punch if some one were stalking me I would set them up for an ambush and at least beat the fuck out of them [/quote]
This is what Trayvon did, and he was killed because of it. You might want to rethink this one Pittbull.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I now words have very little meaning in this forum . We have people that fight tooth and nail that blacks have always had the right to vote and Gays have always had the right to marry and I will believe you that minors have always had the right to carry a gun[/quote]
The problem is, you don’t understand that Rights are inalienable. You have them because you are alive. Government’s role is to protect them. Government can’t grant rights, it can only take them away, because Rights are a constant with or without government.
Other than that, good for Mr. Wonder.
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
How does he know he is black?
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He’s blind. He still has a nose.[/quote]
So he can smell his blackness? lol[/quote]
Like blacks don’t have a smell. White folk have a smell, too, BTW.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The way I understand the FLA law is that you are under no obligation to retreat . Go pick a fight , get your ass kicked , kill the person you picked a fight with so they do not kill you . [/quote]
You can’t punch first and rely on the SYG defense.[/quote]
You can lie about it , especially if you kill the only remaining witness. Zimmerman pursued Martin , Martin Kicked Zimmerman’s ass and rather than run like he would have , had he no gun , he shot Martin. Zimmerman was the Aggressor , the Pursuer
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Nope, because Trayvon punched first.
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HOLY SHIT you are Psychic .
Even if Trayvon threw the first punch if some one were stalking me I would set them up for an ambush and at least beat the fuck out of them [/quote]
This is what Trayvon did, and he was killed because of it. You might want to rethink this one Pittbull.[/quote]
Rethink what ?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Nope, because Trayvon punched first.
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HOLY SHIT you are Psychic .
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Well, that’s what the jury concluded, Zimmerman said under a lie detector, and what matched the physical and eyewitness testimony.
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Even if Trayvon threw the first punch if some one were stalking me I would set them up for an ambush and at least beat the fuck out of them [/quote]
Then you failed to grasp the teachable momement in this event: don’t walk around with a chip on your shoulder, or you might get shot.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The way I understand the FLA law is that you are under no obligation to retreat . Go pick a fight , get your ass kicked , kill the person you picked a fight with so they do not kill you . [/quote]
You can’t punch first and rely on the SYG defense.[/quote]
You can lie about it , especially if you kill the only remaining witness. Zimmerman pursued Martin , Martin Kicked Zimmerman’s ass and rather than run like he would have , had he no gun , he shot Martin. Zimmerman was the Aggressor , the Pursuer [/quote]
Well, the jury disagreed.
BTW, you do know one of the jurors (juror B29) was a “black Hispanic” lady? How’d she get so bigoted?
The jury did not have all options available , I doubt the jury thought he should skate , I am guessing that they acted with in their initial instructions . They might have all thought he were guilty of man slaughter , I don’t know any more than you . But I do know Zimmerman Zimmerman Pursued Martin ,Zimmerman Caught him ,Zimmerman preceded to get his ass kicked , and rather than run he shot Martin. Why ? Because he had a gun. Martin did nothing wrong , no law broken , all he did was defend himself . Period
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The jury did not have all options available , I doubt the jury thought he should skate , I am guessing that they acted with in their initial instructions . They might have all thought he were guilty of man slaughter , I don’t know any more than you . But I do know Zimmerman Zimmerman Pursued Martin ,Zimmerman Caught him ,Zimmerman preceded to get his ass kicked , and rather than run he shot Martin. Why ? Because he had a gun. Martin did nothing wrong , no law broken , all he did was defend himself . Period [/quote]
You might want to study up on the actual facts of the trial.
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
You might want to study up on the actual facts of the trial.[/quote]
While i am sure I have many facts wrong
But I do know Zimmerman Zimmerman Pursued Martin ,Zimmerman Caught him ,Zimmerman preceded to get his ass kicked , and rather than run he shot Martin. Why ? Because he had a gun. Martin did nothing wrong , no law broken , all he did was defend himself . Period [/quote]
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
You might want to study up on the actual facts of the trial.
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While i am sure I have many facts wrong
But I do know Zimmerman Pursued Martin ,Zimmerman Caught him ,Zimmerman preceded to get his ass kicked , and rather than run he shot Martin. Why ? Because he had a gun. Martin did nothing wrong , no law broken , all he did was defend himself . Period
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Zimmerman did not catch Trayvon. Trayvon came back for Zimmerman, and found him. When Trayvon hit Zimmerman all bets were off. Then Zimmerman had no chance to run, he was on the ground. He had to shoot to get him off of him.
Study up on the facts of the case. Period.
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/01/george-zimmerman-trial-trayvon-martin-day-6
Zimmerman followed him in to the dark , some how Martin got behind him , Sounds like an ambush ? Zimmerman was the aggressor cut and dried . These are Zimmerman’s own words . My facts are spot on
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/01/george-zimmerman-trial-trayvon-martin-day-6
Zimmerman followed him in to the dark , some how Martin got behind him , Sounds like an ambush ? Zimmerman was the aggressor cut and dried . These are Zimmerman’s own words . My facts are spot on [/quote]
Your “facts” are speculation.
You have chosen to disbelieve George, despite his taking a lie detetector, every other part of his story checking out, and no evidence to the contrary.