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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

You have a lot to learn, kid. A hell of a lot. You’re a little spaz. An excitable boy who hasn’t yet had life punch him in the face a few times.

Live it, learn from it, then come around here and spout off your big mouth.
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I’m intense, I’m extreme no doubt.

I’ve been waiting for life to punch me in the face, it’s backed down everytime…Give me an example of something that you would think would challenge me? What is an example of life punching me in the face?

You can’t locate who I am, don’t even begin to try. If you challenge me you better expect to hear what I have to say.

So now it’s your turn, why the fuck are you qualified to speak? Who the fuck are you to question me?[/quote]

I’ll give you a way to get punched in the face by life. Go volunteer on Thanksgiving or Christmas morning at the local soup kitchen. That’ll open your eyes up a bit. What will hit you is the appreciation the people show you just for being there.

You could also volunteer your time at the local Boys and Girls Club. That will open your eyes as well. I suppose it’s different everywhere, but where I live the economy has been especially hard hit (something like 18 or 19% unemployment in my county) and you can really see the effect it has on kids.

But the “best” way to get punched in the face by life is to work with drug addicts and alcoholics. I suppose if you really like to party this may not be an appropriate area for you to donate your time in. But if that isn’t the case with you, go down to the local homeless shelter and volunteer to bring some of the people there to an AA meeting. Get to know some of them, take them out for coffee or buy them a meal. And then go to their funeral when one of them dies under a fucking bridge. Yeah, I’ve been to one of those. And you know what will really hit you hard? Is when you realize that the only people there are those who worked with you at the shelter or soup kitchen that you met the deceased at. Try that on for size.

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[quote]overstand wrote:
I expected people to hate on him on an internet forum, I couldn’t believe it when one of my professors started ragging on him today. [/quote]

Seriously??

Wait, is your prof DBCooper?

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Hate when professors use their own classroom as a place to tirade/rant… Seen it too many times.

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[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

And before anyone accuses me of unjustifiably getting on my high horse, I really DO help with this sort of thing, okay? So I my stance isn’t one of hypocrisy. I volunteer at soup kitchens, I donate my time on the weekends and once a week in the evenings taking care of a 90 year-old woman because no one else will, I volunteer time as a mentor to young teenaged foster children, I’ve practically taken a vow of poverty to work as a teacher in a public school. And it isn’t because I want summers off.[/quote]

This is the same mentality as “I’m not a racist, I HAVE BLACK FRIENDS, so I am qualified in saying stupid shit on the subject”

You have such a nurturing personallity, I bet you’re as hardcore of a liberal as they come, I also bet you fucking lactate quarts of estrogen filled breast milk a day

you write, serve soup, read books to kids, and scrub corns on old ladies feet, yea you’re a real fucking HERO this world could not possibly survive without you. Do you ever realize how fucking EASY it is to do the things that you do? I mean liberal arts-cereal box degree-dreams of adolescent girls type shit

If you didn’t do these things some other bitch would.[/quote]

Listen pal, if you think you can pigeonhole my political leanings (I couldn’t be farther from the type of liberal you equate me with and I’ve never voted Democrat) based on my charitable contributions to the community I live in, you’re only revealing your ignorance not only about me and what I do, but about political issues in general.

And you know what? Doing what I do isn’t easy at all. At least, I can only assume it isn’t easy because there simply can’t be another explanation as to why there seem to be so little people out there who actually do the things I do. I suppose they avoid doing such easy work because they’re too busy using their iPhone to update their Facebook status every few minutes.

I laugh at your namecalling. I have a degree in history and political science, most of the units toward which I earned at Pepperdine University, perhaps the most conservative four year institution in California. You’re a child with absolutely no concept of what liberalism really is. How often do you spend time helping the poor and needy? I mean, you can’t even find the time to fuck a fat chick more than once a month, so I can only assume it’s because you’re out there actually DOING the easy-as-shit work you’re so quick to ridicule.[/quote]

HAHAA, babysitting children and changing diapers on old ladies is fucking shits and giggles my friend, and everytime you try to claim that what you do IS hard, I feel like getting that picture of fry from futurama with the caption that reads “Can’t tell if you’re serious”. Let me guess, you think that the women who run daycare centers are GODS?

you hate America, you don’t vote, you think hugo chavez is a hero, you hate corporations. Your left-wing we get it. And in a pathetic attempt to show how “rounded” you are and what great perspective you have, you tell us that you went to a conservative (by californian standards) university.

This year I am improving the design of a surgical piece of equipment, compare that to what you do if you dare…

I could do what you do, you could never in a million years begin to do what I do, you are a pawn.[/quote]

You have a lot to learn, kid. A hell of a lot. You’re a little spaz. An excitable boy who hasn’t yet had life punch him in the face a few times.

Live it, learn from it, then come around here and spout off your big mouth.
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He’s certainly brash. But beneath the youthful bravado, I think he actually has a good point. I think it’s arrogant and absurd to claim that Joe Average Hero is that much better than Steve Jobs because Joe Average Hero does the kind of things he’s able to. How many people are able to do what DBCooper does? Quite a few, no? Not that it’s common to see people doing that, unfortunately, but the fact remains that it’s something a lot of people COULD do. And those who do it should absolutely be praised for it. That said, how many people can do what Steve Jobs did? Statistically, no one that you will ever meet. The Steve Jobs’s of the world are just as important to its function, and they tend to serve as inspiration. So really, they’re both right and they’re both acting like children.
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You know what? You’re right. What I do is something that ANYONE on here can do. So why is it that there are so few people actually doing it? It’s one thing to be an engineer because that is where your talent lies. I’m a complete retard when it comes to math, so I couldn’t become an engineer and do what Carbiduis plans on doing. So there’s my reason. What does it say about people who do not do the “easy” work?

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All DBCooper is trying to do is make this thread about himself. For a guy who claims to do all these selfless acts, he sure as fuck likes to brag about it.

Whether he likes to admit or not, Steve Jobs has helped society exponentially more than he ever will and I’ve explained how

To recap:

  1. the iPad and iPod are now being used by surgeons in the operating room. If I remember correctly, you asked how these devices have helped society, there’s your answer.

  2. He made computers accessible to the average person which has indirectly led to MILLIONS of different benefits to society.

Your beef shouldn’t be with Steve Jobs, and all your posts in this thread are nothing but misguided and ridiculous.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
All DBCooper is trying to do is make this thread about himself. For a guy who claims to do all these selfless acts, he sure as fuck likes to brag about it.

Whether he likes to admit or not, Steve Jobs has helped society exponentially more than he ever will and I’ve explained how

To recap:

  1. the iPad and iPod are now being used by surgeons in the operating room. If I remember correctly, you asked how these devices have helped society, there’s your answer.

  2. He made computers accessible to the average person which has indirectly led to MILLIONS of different benefits to society.

Your beef shouldn’t be with Steve Jobs, and all your posts in this thread are nothing but misguided and ridiculous.

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I’ve never claimed to not be egotistical, I admit as much. Tell me something Rajraj. When American soldiers die or return from war or whatever, who do we honor? Who do we have a holiday for? The veterans who have served in war in furtherance of democracy? Or the defense contractors whose innovations and genius have helped increase our ability to protect said democracy? Who do you think of and observe a moment of silence for on Veterans’ Day? Who are you memorializing on Memorial Day? Guys like Pat Tillman? Or the CEO of Bell Helicopters?

After all, Bell is exponentially more responsible for protecting America than ANY soldier we’ve ever had serve in war. Fuck, I forgot, you’re Canadian. Well, apply the principle to Canada.

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[quote]StevenF wrote:

[quote]Bigdick1000 wrote:
Who cares[/quote]

You are obviously young and obviously stupid. I doubt you will even read this but I’m writing it anyway. Steve Jobs contributed more to this world in one day than you will your whole life. “Who cares?” His family, his friends, who knows how many employees that worked for him, and millions of people around the world. Everyone knows he is gone and are saddened by it. If everyone lived their life where they would be sincerely missed by everyone they touched, this world would be a much better place. If you died today, “who cares” is probably what a lot of people would say that had the pleasure, or displeasure, of knowing you.[/quote]

read my last post douchebag… you know nothing about him and the media is starting to find out about all the fucked up shit he was apart of … if it gets out i will laughing at you

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
All DBCooper is trying to do is make this thread about himself. For a guy who claims to do all these selfless acts, he sure as fuck likes to brag about it.

Whether he likes to admit or not, Steve Jobs has helped society exponentially more than he ever will and I’ve explained how

To recap:

  1. the iPad and iPod are now being used by surgeons in the operating room. If I remember correctly, you asked how these devices have helped society, there’s your answer.

  2. He made computers accessible to the average person which has indirectly led to MILLIONS of different benefits to society.

Your beef shouldn’t be with Steve Jobs, and all your posts in this thread are nothing but misguided and ridiculous.

[/quote]

And if you’re going to start extolling all of the virtues in his inventions, let’s not forget that the guy was no philanthropist. I highly doubt that someone as rich as he was, who gave little to nothing back to the community out of his own pocket, was designing the iPad or the iPod with the explicit intention of saving lives. Here’s a little quote from the March, 2008 edition of Fortune Magazine:

Last year the founder of the Stanford Social Innovation Review called Apple one of “America’s Least Philanthropic Companies.” Jobs had terminated all of Apple’s long-standing corporate philanthropy programs within weeks after returning to Apple in 1997, citing the need to cut costs until profitability rebounded. But the programs have never been restored.
FORTUNE Most Admired Companies 2008

Unlike Bill Gates - the tech world’s other towering figure - Jobs has not shown much inclination to hand over the reins of his company to create a different kind of personal legacy. While his wife is deeply involved in an array of charitable projects, Jobs’ only serious foray into personal philanthropy was short-lived. In January 1987, after launching Next, he also, without fanfare or public notice, incorporated the Steven P. Jobs Foundation. “He was very interested in food and health issues and vegetarianism,” recalls Mark Vermilion, the community affairs executive Jobs hired to run it. Vermilion persuaded Jobs to focus on “social entrepreneurship” instead. But the Jobs foundation never did much of anything, besides hiring famed graphic designer Paul Rand to design its logo. (Explains Vermilion: “He wanted a logo worthy of his expectations.”) Jobs shut down the foundation after less than 15 months.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
All DBCooper is trying to do is make this thread about himself. For a guy who claims to do all these selfless acts, he sure as fuck likes to brag about it.

Whether he likes to admit or not, Steve Jobs has helped society exponentially more than he ever will and I’ve explained how

To recap:

  1. the iPad and iPod are now being used by surgeons in the operating room. If I remember correctly, you asked how these devices have helped society, there’s your answer.

  2. He made computers accessible to the average person which has indirectly led to MILLIONS of different benefits to society.

Your beef shouldn’t be with Steve Jobs, and all your posts in this thread are nothing but misguided and ridiculous.

[/quote]

And if you’re going to start extolling all of the virtues in his inventions, let’s not forget that the guy was no philanthropist. I highly doubt that someone as rich as he was, who gave little to nothing back to the community out of his own pocket, was designing the iPad or the iPod with the explicit intention of saving lives. Here’s a little quote from the March, 2008 edition of Fortune Magazine:

Last year the founder of the Stanford Social Innovation Review called Apple one of “America’s Least Philanthropic Companies.” Jobs had terminated all of Apple’s long-standing corporate philanthropy programs within weeks after returning to Apple in 1997, citing the need to cut costs until profitability rebounded. But the programs have never been restored.
FORTUNE Most Admired Companies 2008

Unlike Bill Gates - the tech world’s other towering figure - Jobs has not shown much inclination to hand over the reins of his company to create a different kind of personal legacy. While his wife is deeply involved in an array of charitable projects, Jobs’ only serious foray into personal philanthropy was short-lived. In January 1987, after launching Next, he also, without fanfare or public notice, incorporated the Steven P. Jobs Foundation. “He was very interested in food and health issues and vegetarianism,” recalls Mark Vermilion, the community affairs executive Jobs hired to run it. Vermilion persuaded Jobs to focus on “social entrepreneurship” instead. But the Jobs foundation never did much of anything, besides hiring famed graphic designer Paul Rand to design its logo. (Explains Vermilion: “He wanted a logo worthy of his expectations.”) Jobs shut down the foundation after less than 15 months. [/quote]

His lack of Philanthropy is a completely different issue, but a fair criticism.

On the 2nd page you wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

I’m dead serious. Look, I get it. He was an innovator and perhaps it’s in poor taste for me to slam his vapid accomplishments so soon after his death. But my point still stands. I’m sure Jobs used his wealth to help a lot of people and all that, but what has anything he has created really done for any of us? Has the iPod helped anyone here become a better person? Has the iPad directly done one single thing to erase poverty in this country, or any other country? When was the last time your iPhone helped put food in the stomach of a hungry single mother? And before people start spouting off about his philanthropy I remind you of the parable about the rich guy making a show of his donations to the church in the front row and the poor woman in the back who gives one coin a week, the only coin she has.

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The point being his innovations have helped the needy indirectly and most of the criticism you threw his way above is unfair. This thread was created for the purpose of mourning the loss of a man many of us look up to. Nothing more. Anyways, you can continue to denigrate the man, I’m going to go back to watching the ALCS.

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To carbiduis- You are an idiot. There really isn’t much more I can describe you with. Sure I bet you are a clever engineer and all that jazz. I am as well, and if all you have done through senior year is improve surgical equipment, then I have actually done more industry work than you, and I’m a sophomore (GE sensor design and data collection, Bell Helicopters blade shape analysis and optimization, SCIPlay project designer and engineer). This is not really relevant to this topic, but I just wanted to knock you off of your high horse a bit. I see your type all the time, engineers who think they are on top of the world because they take hard classes, and that liberal arts students are all peasants who will serve you a latte. That’s just not the case though. It takes a truly different kind of fortitude to handle the kind of work DBC describes, a fortitude that I do not have. What I do have, however, is immeasurable respect for the people who work tirelessly doing this kind of stuff. So fuck you and grow up.

To DBC- Fuck you for posting with Nards’ avatar. I was confused as hell for the majority of this thread because of that. Thats about all I have. You are a complete troll who enjoys a good ego stroke job, but you already know that So I’ve got nothing for you.

On Mr. Jobs- I don’t care about his personality, or lack of philanthropy. I do respect his relentless drive to make his own ideas succeed. He and Woz changed the face of the modern world for the better by working for their dreams, something that I do mourn him for. Also, he was a damn talented engineer. Teaching yourself how to program a GUI and building and programming a computer that can run it is not easy by any stretch. It takes true talent to pull that off.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
All DBCooper is trying to do is make this thread about himself. For a guy who claims to do all these selfless acts, he sure as fuck likes to brag about it.

Whether he likes to admit or not, Steve Jobs has helped society exponentially more than he ever will and I’ve explained how

To recap:

  1. the iPad and iPod are now being used by surgeons in the operating room. If I remember correctly, you asked how these devices have helped society, there’s your answer.

  2. He made computers accessible to the average person which has indirectly led to MILLIONS of different benefits to society.

Your beef shouldn’t be with Steve Jobs, and all your posts in this thread are nothing but misguided and ridiculous.

[/quote]

And if you’re going to start extolling all of the virtues in his inventions, let’s not forget that the guy was no philanthropist. I highly doubt that someone as rich as he was, who gave little to nothing back to the community out of his own pocket, was designing the iPad or the iPod with the explicit intention of saving lives. Here’s a little quote from the March, 2008 edition of Fortune Magazine:

Last year the founder of the Stanford Social Innovation Review called Apple one of “America’s Least Philanthropic Companies.” Jobs had terminated all of Apple’s long-standing corporate philanthropy programs within weeks after returning to Apple in 1997, citing the need to cut costs until profitability rebounded. But the programs have never been restored.
FORTUNE Most Admired Companies 2008

Unlike Bill Gates - the tech world’s other towering figure - Jobs has not shown much inclination to hand over the reins of his company to create a different kind of personal legacy. While his wife is deeply involved in an array of charitable projects, Jobs’ only serious foray into personal philanthropy was short-lived. In January 1987, after launching Next, he also, without fanfare or public notice, incorporated the Steven P. Jobs Foundation. “He was very interested in food and health issues and vegetarianism,” recalls Mark Vermilion, the community affairs executive Jobs hired to run it. Vermilion persuaded Jobs to focus on “social entrepreneurship” instead. But the Jobs foundation never did much of anything, besides hiring famed graphic designer Paul Rand to design its logo. (Explains Vermilion: “He wanted a logo worthy of his expectations.”) Jobs shut down the foundation after less than 15 months. [/quote]

His lack of Philanthropy is a completely different issue, but a fair criticism.

On the 2nd page you wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

I’m dead serious. Look, I get it. He was an innovator and perhaps it’s in poor taste for me to slam his vapid accomplishments so soon after his death. But my point still stands. I’m sure Jobs used his wealth to help a lot of people and all that, but what has anything he has created really done for any of us? Has the iPod helped anyone here become a better person? Has the iPad directly done one single thing to erase poverty in this country, or any other country? When was the last time your iPhone helped put food in the stomach of a hungry single mother? And before people start spouting off about his philanthropy I remind you of the parable about the rich guy making a show of his donations to the church in the front row and the poor woman in the back who gives one coin a week, the only coin she has.

[/quote]

The point being his innovations have helped the needy indirectly and most of the criticism you threw his way above is unfair. This thread was created for the purpose of mourning the loss of a man many of us look up to. Nothing more. Anyways, you can continue to denigrate the man, I’m going to go back to watching the ALCS.
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Thanks to Jobs you can go on this site AND watch the game! What a great guy!

Seriously though, don’t you find some relevance in the point I made earlier about soldiers vs defense contractors? Or do you just pick and choose the points you respond to based on your ability to skirt the issue? Because that’s all you’ve done. You have failed to address the actual point I’m making here.

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[quote]grayman19 wrote:
To carbiduis- You are an idiot. There really isn’t much more I can describe you with. Sure I bet you are a clever engineer and all that jazz. I am as well, and if all you have done through senior year is improve surgical equipment, then I have actually done more industry work than you, and I’m a sophomore (GE sensor design and data collection, Bell Helicopters blade shape analysis and optimization, SCIPlay project designer and engineer). This is not really relevant to this topic, but I just wanted to knock you off of your high horse a bit. I see your type all the time, engineers who think they are on top of the world because they take hard classes, and that liberal arts students are all peasants who will serve you a latte. That’s just not the case though. It takes a truly different kind of fortitude to handle the kind of work DBC describes, a fortitude that I do not have. What I do have, however, is immeasurable respect for the people who work tirelessly doing this kind of stuff. So fuck you and grow up.

To DBC- Fuck you for posting with Nards’ avatar. I was confused as hell for the majority of this thread because of that. Thats about all I have. You are a complete troll who enjoys a good ego stroke job, but you already know that So I’ve got nothing for you.

On Mr. Jobs- I don’t care about his personality, or lack of philanthropy. I do respect his relentless drive to make his own ideas succeed. He and Woz changed the face of the modern world for the better by working for their dreams, something that I do mourn him for. Also, he was a damn talented engineer. Teaching yourself how to program a GUI and building and programming a computer that can run it is not easy by any stretch. It takes true talent to pull that off. [/quote]

You had me up until you called me a troll. What, I’m a troll because I have perspective on the important things in life and I have the balls to actually say how I feel about something? I’m a troll because I’m willing to come on here and raise some relevant points? Forgive me for my lack of diplomacy on the issue, but that has NEVER been my style. But that doesn’t make me a troll. I come by this attitude honestly.

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Its not your lack of diplomacy that makes me call you a troll unfortunately. I respect that you want to share your opinions. What I dislike about you is how you constantly pick fights by relentlessly attacking people post after post. And face it, you blatantly troll other threads on these boards, though that is not relevant to my argument here. But enough on this.

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[quote]grayman19 wrote:
Its not your lack of diplomacy that makes me call you a troll unfortunately. I respect that you want to share your opinions. What I dislike about you is how you constantly pick fights by relentlessly attacking people post after post. And face it, you blatantly troll other threads on these boards, though that is not relevant to my argument here. But enough on this.[/quote]

You’re dead to me. And you’re wrong.

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Philanthropy schmilanthropy. Jobs doesn’t owe any one shit. Fuck he created jobs. What does a social studies teacher do that is so special? You wouldn’t have money to give back if you wanted too.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
All DBCooper is trying to do is make this thread about himself. For a guy who claims to do all these selfless acts, he sure as fuck likes to brag about it.

Whether he likes to admit or not, Steve Jobs has helped society exponentially more than he ever will and I’ve explained how

To recap:

  1. the iPad and iPod are now being used by surgeons in the operating room. If I remember correctly, you asked how these devices have helped society, there’s your answer.

  2. He made computers accessible to the average person which has indirectly led to MILLIONS of different benefits to society.

Your beef shouldn’t be with Steve Jobs, and all your posts in this thread are nothing but misguided and ridiculous.

[/quote]

And if you’re going to start extolling all of the virtues in his inventions, let’s not forget that the guy was no philanthropist. I highly doubt that someone as rich as he was, who gave little to nothing back to the community out of his own pocket, was designing the iPad or the iPod with the explicit intention of saving lives. Here’s a little quote from the March, 2008 edition of Fortune Magazine:

Last year the founder of the Stanford Social Innovation Review called Apple one of “America’s Least Philanthropic Companies.” Jobs had terminated all of Apple’s long-standing corporate philanthropy programs within weeks after returning to Apple in 1997, citing the need to cut costs until profitability rebounded. But the programs have never been restored.
FORTUNE Most Admired Companies 2008

Unlike Bill Gates - the tech world’s other towering figure - Jobs has not shown much inclination to hand over the reins of his company to create a different kind of personal legacy. While his wife is deeply involved in an array of charitable projects, Jobs’ only serious foray into personal philanthropy was short-lived. In January 1987, after launching Next, he also, without fanfare or public notice, incorporated the Steven P. Jobs Foundation. “He was very interested in food and health issues and vegetarianism,” recalls Mark Vermilion, the community affairs executive Jobs hired to run it. Vermilion persuaded Jobs to focus on “social entrepreneurship” instead. But the Jobs foundation never did much of anything, besides hiring famed graphic designer Paul Rand to design its logo. (Explains Vermilion: “He wanted a logo worthy of his expectations.”) Jobs shut down the foundation after less than 15 months. [/quote]

His lack of Philanthropy is a completely different issue, but a fair criticism.

On the 2nd page you wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

I’m dead serious. Look, I get it. He was an innovator and perhaps it’s in poor taste for me to slam his vapid accomplishments so soon after his death. But my point still stands. I’m sure Jobs used his wealth to help a lot of people and all that, but what has anything he has created really done for any of us? Has the iPod helped anyone here become a better person? Has the iPad directly done one single thing to erase poverty in this country, or any other country? When was the last time your iPhone helped put food in the stomach of a hungry single mother? And before people start spouting off about his philanthropy I remind you of the parable about the rich guy making a show of his donations to the church in the front row and the poor woman in the back who gives one coin a week, the only coin she has.

[/quote]

The point being his innovations have helped the needy indirectly and most of the criticism you threw his way above is unfair. This thread was created for the purpose of mourning the loss of a man many of us look up to. Nothing more. Anyways, you can continue to denigrate the man, I’m going to go back to watching the ALCS.
[/quote]

Thanks to Jobs you can go on this site AND watch the game! What a great guy!

Seriously though, don’t you find some relevance in the point I made earlier about soldiers vs defense contractors? Or do you just pick and choose the points you respond to based on your ability to skirt the issue? Because that’s all you’ve done. You have failed to address the actual point I’m making here. [/quote]

No.

I don’t think it’s valid to compare what you do to soldiers who put their lives on the line, many of which of made the ultimate sacrifice.

You are not risking you life in anything you do.

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Quick intermission from the dick swinging contest.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple

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Really, Defense Contractors VS Soldiers. hahahaha Oh boy. Guys really you need to shut up.

One is a Service the other is a JOB and the guy with the job can just say I quit. The guy with the JOB is paid Much Much better and if your talking CEO with a gov contract we Are talking BILLIONS.

So what are you comparing??? Veterns day Vs what???

Please stop this act of Cronic Masturbation…Or at least rub harder and Cum already

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Philanthropy schmilanthropy. Jobs doesn’t owe any one shit. Fuck he created jobs. What does a social studies teacher do that is so special? You wouldn’t have money to give back if you wanted too.[/quote]

You must be illiterate because I’ve spent several pages explaining exactly what this social studies teacher does that is so special. Come back and participate in this thread when your reading comprehension skills equally match the skill in which you reveal your complete ignorance to everyone on this site. Don’t you have some firearms to discharge at people or some transient you met in a park to fuck?

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[quote]four60 wrote:
Really, Defense Contractors VS Soldiers. hahahaha Oh boy. Guys really you need to shut up.

One is a Service the other is a JOB and the guy with the job can just say I quit. The guy with the JOB is paid Much Much better and if your talking CEO with a gov contract we Are talking BILLIONS.

So what are you comparing??? Veterns day Vs what???

Please stop this act of Cronic Masturbation…Or at least rub harder and Cum already[/quote]

You really have no absolutely no clue as to the ways in which my example is entirely analogous. I’m not comparing the nature of the two jobs at all, a point that seems to be completely lost on you.

My point is that when something is used for good, we generally celebrate those who do the good, not those who created the product, especially when the product was not created specifically for the use it has in this abstract “good” I’m talking about. We celebrate doctors who save lives, not the owners of some plastics factory. We celebrate the efforts of soldiers who fight to protect this country, not the CEOs of the companies making the weaponry our soldiers use.