[quote]SteelyD wrote:
My God there are some retarded posts on this GUI driven forum from people using mouses and keyboards from personal computers and handheld devices.[/quote]
After Xerox invented the GUI, there were multiple companies working on a GUI based operating system at the same time. It just so happens Apple had the best one. The iPhone, while wildly popular, has never had anything new about it.
While Jobs was a great businessman, your implication that we’d all be using punchcards and rotary cellphones is off-mark, as he was just that good at being ahead of trends. He didn’t create any of the technology we use today.
I have resisted all apple products as I am anti-coorperation and anti-monolopisation. Some body told me that at the apple building in china where they make the products, they had to construct a net around the building to prevent workers jumping to their death.
While Jobs was a great businessman, your implication that we’d all be using punchcards and rotary cellphones is off-mark, as he was just that good at being ahead of trends. He didn’t create any of the technology we use today. [/quote]
Wow. I did not imply that at all. Are you following the thread?
You know what? You’re right. What I do is something that ANYONE on here can do. So why is it that there are so few people actually doing it? It’s one thing to be an engineer because that is where your talent lies. I’m a complete retard when it comes to math, so I couldn’t become an engineer and do what Carbiduis plans on doing. So there’s my reason. What does it say about people who do not do the “easy” work?[/quote]
No, I agree with you. And I didn’t say it was easy, just that many people have the ability to do it. Again, I have no issue with terming that work “heroic.” I do have issue with people skewering a guy that donated millions to charity…that sort of person also has an important role in the pantheon of charity work. Just as the people who don’t donate their time to charity work can’t judge it, you and I can’t judge what it means you write of millions of dollars that you’ve busted your balls to earn. That’s my only point here.
You know what? You’re right. What I do is something that ANYONE on here can do. So why is it that there are so few people actually doing it? It’s one thing to be an engineer because that is where your talent lies. I’m a complete retard when it comes to math, so I couldn’t become an engineer and do what Carbiduis plans on doing. So there’s my reason. What does it say about people who do not do the “easy” work?[/quote]
No, I agree with you. And I didn’t say it was easy, just that many people have the ability to do it. Again, I have no issue with terming that work “heroic.” I do have issue with people skewering a guy that donated millions to charity…that sort of person also has an important role in the pantheon of charity work. Just as the people who don’t donate their time to charity work can’t judge it, you and I can’t judge what it means you write of millions of dollars that you’ve busted your balls to earn. That’s my only point here.[/quote]
Charity is a net loss for society. It’s far more valuable to invest in employing a person then to give him a handout. Charity = give a man a fish. Capital investment and employment = teach a man to fish. An employer “giving” to charity is more selfish than taking that as salary because he gets taxed on his salary but gets a tax break on the charity.
[quote]theBird wrote:
I heard apple laptops are the way to go?
I have resisted all apple products as I am anti-coorperation and anti-monolopisation. Some body told me that at the apple building in china where they make the products, they had to construct a net around the building to prevent workers jumping to their death.
Anyway, sounds like he was a smart man.
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LOL. So did you buy a computer from a Mom and Pop company that hand-builds them?
You know what? You’re right. What I do is something that ANYONE on here can do. So why is it that there are so few people actually doing it? It’s one thing to be an engineer because that is where your talent lies. I’m a complete retard when it comes to math, so I couldn’t become an engineer and do what Carbiduis plans on doing. So there’s my reason. What does it say about people who do not do the “easy” work?[/quote]
No, I agree with you. And I didn’t say it was easy, just that many people have the ability to do it. Again, I have no issue with terming that work “heroic.” I do have issue with people skewering a guy that donated millions to charity…that sort of person also has an important role in the pantheon of charity work. Just as the people who don’t donate their time to charity work can’t judge it, you and I can’t judge what it means you write of millions of dollars that you’ve busted your balls to earn. That’s my only point here.[/quote]
Charity is a net loss for society. It’s far more valuable to invest in employing a person then to give him a handout. Charity = give a man a fish. Capital investment and employment = teach a man to fish. An employer “giving” to charity is more selfish than taking that as salary because he gets taxed on his salary but gets a tax break on the charity. [/quote]
So what about giving to an organization that teaches? That’s a silly blanket statement to make, anyway. Where does making charitable donations to disaster relief, etc. fall?
[quote]theBird wrote:
I heard apple laptops are the way to go?
I have resisted all apple products as I am anti-coorperation and anti-monolopisation. Some body told me that at the apple building in china where they make the products, they had to construct a net around the building to prevent workers jumping to their death.
Anyway, sounds like he was a smart man.
i-tweet[/quote]
LOL. So did you buy a computer from a Mom and Pop company that hand-builds them?[/quote]
Um, you can’t "hand-build a computer. You can assemble one from the hardware components. I do this for friends and relatives all the time. Often they pay me for my time. If your time isn’t worth much, buying a pre-assempbled and setup PC is a waste of money. If your time is worth a few hundred dollars for the few hours it takes to assemble, pirate software, setup a PC then you can usually find a better deal pre-assembled.
You know what? You’re right. What I do is something that ANYONE on here can do. So why is it that there are so few people actually doing it? It’s one thing to be an engineer because that is where your talent lies. I’m a complete retard when it comes to math, so I couldn’t become an engineer and do what Carbiduis plans on doing. So there’s my reason. What does it say about people who do not do the “easy” work?[/quote]
No, I agree with you. And I didn’t say it was easy, just that many people have the ability to do it. Again, I have no issue with terming that work “heroic.” I do have issue with people skewering a guy that donated millions to charity…that sort of person also has an important role in the pantheon of charity work. Just as the people who don’t donate their time to charity work can’t judge it, you and I can’t judge what it means you write of millions of dollars that you’ve busted your balls to earn. That’s my only point here.[/quote]
Charity is a net loss for society. It’s far more valuable to invest in employing a person then to give him a handout. Charity = give a man a fish. Capital investment and employment = teach a man to fish. An employer “giving” to charity is more selfish than taking that as salary because he gets taxed on his salary but gets a tax break on the charity. [/quote]
So what about giving to an organization that teaches? That’s a silly blanket statement to make, anyway. Where does making charitable donations to disaster relief, etc. fall?[/quote]
You mean an organization that teaches payed for by donations? There’s on difference in that case. You’re just donating a service instead of a good when you could be employing someone to teach directly or through investing in a teaching company. Disaster relief is no different. You’re providing goods to people when they would be better off providing employment to to others and lowering the cost of living for those suffering from the disaster. While some suffer from immediate poverty and death. Giving them a temporary “fish” is far less valuable then saving others from falling into poverty and death by providing them employment. Charity is a zero sum game(neglecting the personal feeling of gratification you gain). Employment and investment is not.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Philanthropy schmilanthropy. Jobs doesn’t owe any one shit. Fuck he created jobs. What does a social studies teacher do that is so special? You wouldn’t have money to give back if you wanted too.[/quote]
You must be illiterate because I’ve spent several pages explaining exactly what this social studies teacher does that is so special. Come back and participate in this thread when your reading comprehension skills equally match the skill in which you reveal your complete ignorance to everyone on this site. Don’t you have some firearms to discharge at people or some transient you met in a park to fuck?
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Hahaha! You are so full of shit its ridiculous! We can have a philanthropical pissing contest if you want but I promise my tax break alone beats your annual income and Jobs gave more than you ever will, even if they are a least charitable company. What he did with his time and money is none of your business though. It was his vision, his action and his intelligence that built his company and created his money. Nobody else is entitled to it. Speaking of reading comprehension, I didn’t shoot the gun or meet her in the park, only fucked her there. What is so ignorant about sex? And those who can’t, teach. Retards teach SS. It’s a small step above P.E. so don’t try to get high and mighty, I see you waaaay down there. And Jobs doesn’t owe you his money. You should have chosen a more significant path for yourself.[/quote]
Agreed. DBCopper is off his rocker. End of story.[/quote]
This coming from the guy with Barry Bonds’ dick planted firmly in his mouth.
And thanks for making my point for me HoustonGuy. You see, you seem to value things based on money, I value things based on more than that. I could easily be earning way more than I do as a teacher, but I’ve made a choice to put my talents to use helping others. Money doesn’t concern me. I’m glad you disagree with me though. The day a dumbfuck overwhelmed by materialism like you agree with me is the day I know I’m doing something wrong.
Please refrain from addressing me in the future. You clearly aren’t operating on the same level that I am and nothing you have to say is relevant to anything I am concerned with.
You know what? You’re right. What I do is something that ANYONE on here can do. So why is it that there are so few people actually doing it? It’s one thing to be an engineer because that is where your talent lies. I’m a complete retard when it comes to math, so I couldn’t become an engineer and do what Carbiduis plans on doing. So there’s my reason. What does it say about people who do not do the “easy” work?[/quote]
No, I agree with you. And I didn’t say it was easy, just that many people have the ability to do it. Again, I have no issue with terming that work “heroic.” I do have issue with people skewering a guy that donated millions to charity…that sort of person also has an important role in the pantheon of charity work. Just as the people who don’t donate their time to charity work can’t judge it, you and I can’t judge what it means you write of millions of dollars that you’ve busted your balls to earn. That’s my only point here.[/quote]
Charity is a net loss for society. It’s far more valuable to invest in employing a person then to give him a handout. Charity = give a man a fish. Capital investment and employment = teach a man to fish. An employer “giving” to charity is more selfish than taking that as salary because he gets taxed on his salary but gets a tax break on the charity. [/quote]
So what about giving to an organization that teaches? That’s a silly blanket statement to make, anyway. Where does making charitable donations to disaster relief, etc. fall?[/quote]
The percentage of his wealth that Jobs has donated is infinitesimal. I mentioned the a parable from the Bible earlier and I’ll mention it again. I’m not a God person per se, but I think this parable is especially relevant to the discussion.
There’s a rich guy who makes a big show of giving the church big handfuls of coins in the front row during collection time every Sunday. And in the back of the church is an old woman who puts one coin in the basket each week, the only coin she has. The point is that “God” places more value on that one gold coin than the donations from the rich guy because it represents a much larger sacrifice on the part of the old woman. And people who do the kind of work I do are making huge sacrifices every day, sacrifices that are much larger than Jobs writing a tax-deductible check for an amount of money he wipes his ass with.
While Jobs was a great businessman, your implication that we’d all be using punchcards and rotary cellphones is off-mark, as he was just that good at being ahead of trends. He didn’t create any of the technology we use today. [/quote]
Wow. I did not imply that at all. Are you following the thread?
VHS or BetaMax?[/quote]
Sorry, I skipped all the posts that are more than 1,000,000 words. Thought you were referring to my previous posts.