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I have been on Test Cyp injection weekly , , HCG , and occasionally Arimed. depending on estrodiol levels.
My question is this, I keep my Testosterone level in the upper normal range for a person of my age [47] ,. I am prescribed the above medication due to primary hypogonadism .
I work out regularly, my diet needs improvement but if I increased the testosterone cyp. injection some, along with additional strength training would that be enough of a ‘’ cycle’', in other words, is testosterone cyp injection a steroid enough alone to help with muscle gain? . I am dont think I need dbol and others, since test cyp is readily availble to me I was hoping this would suffice.
MathewT:
I am on test cyp 200 mg per week as well. What is your does?
To answer your question YES. For two reasons:
- If you T is low, bringing it up will help of course
- Not only will it bring it up, it will bring it well OVER natural T levels.
You will not get “ripped” like a body builder probably, but you certainly can greatly improve your physique with the test cyp, assuming proper training.
This improvement will be far over what you would get with proper training alone.
I’ve been on this for 3 weeks and my strength has increased about 30% so far. My weight has gone up too, but given another month I expect I’ll be well above average.
Ok, so it’s not my first cycle, but its always nice to get feedback from like minded individuals, so here we go. Currently I am running 40 mgs of turinabol ed divided into 2 20mg doses, 100mg of tren ace eod, and 300mg eq every 4th day, and 20mgs of nolvadex ed. My question is really what to include to avoid erectile dysfunction, as of now, I am just using an over the counter horny goat weed and Maca root combo which is working, but not totally giving me the standing ovation I am used to if you catch my drift.
Any constructive feed back would me much appreciated.
I have really noticed taking nolvadex while on a bulking cycle will drastically reduce water retention. In addidtion to that addative, check your water and sodium levels as well.
Hello all,
Im new to this steroid thing. I have been training since I was in high school, Im 24 now, Im looking in to doing my first cycle.
Stats are as follows:
6’3"
215 pounds
9% body fat
Looking to be around 235 by winter time of this year. I wanted to run this cycle for starters. All input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I was going to run test e for 7 weeks 500 mg a week. and d-bol wk 1-6 at 30 -40 mg/day. then start proviron at wk 3-5 taking 25mg ed. then nolva at wk 6-10 10mg ed.
Sorry if this looks bad im new like i said. Thank you all
[quote]stroked024 wrote:
Hello all,
Im new to this steroid thing. I have been training since I was in high school, Im 24 now, Im looking in to doing my first cycle.
Stats are as follows:
6’3"
215 pounds
9% body fat
Looking to be around 235 by winter time of this year. I wanted to run this cycle for starters. All input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I was going to run test e for 7 weeks 500 mg a week. and d-bol wk 1-6 at 30 -40 mg/day. then start proviron at wk 3-5 taking 25mg ed. then nolva at wk 6-10 10mg ed.
Sorry if this looks bad im new like i said. Thank you all[/quote]
Take the test e for no less than 10 weeks, if you only want to run a cycle for 7 weeks look into running test prop instead. My 1st cycle way back looked the same. 500mg test e and dbol 1-5 weeks.
[quote]EastCoaster wrote:
[quote]stroked024 wrote:
Hello all,
Im new to this steroid thing. I have been training since I was in high school, Im 24 now, Im looking in to doing my first cycle.
Stats are as follows:
6’3"
215 pounds
9% body fat
Looking to be around 235 by winter time of this year. I wanted to run this cycle for starters. All input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I was going to run test e for 7 weeks 500 mg a week. and d-bol wk 1-6 at 30 -40 mg/day. then start proviron at wk 3-5 taking 25mg ed. then nolva at wk 6-10 10mg ed.
Sorry if this looks bad im new like i said. Thank you all[/quote]
Take the test e for no less than 10 weeks, if you only want to run a cycle for 7 weeks look into running test prop instead. My 1st cycle way back looked the same. 500mg test e and dbol 1-5 weeks.[/quote]
Did you have alot of water retention when you did this cycle. Im just afraid to look like a balloon thats why im taking an anit e. i was thinking of maybe just cutting out the dbol and running primo or winnie. Any thoughts on how i could do this? how much would i take? how long?
any feedback is great thanks EC
Of course I was holding water, I mean thats what Dbol and test will do. I gained 25lbs. Anti e during the cycle will definately cut back on the water retention.
There is nothing wrong with using test e for 7 weeks. Not a damned thing. If youre going to state an opinion make sure that is clear.
[quote]adrok11 wrote:
Ok, so it’s not my first cycle, but its always nice to get feedback from like minded individuals, so here we go. Currently I am running 40 mgs of turinabol ed divided into 2 20mg doses, 100mg of tren ace eod, and 300mg eq every 4th day, and 20mgs of nolvadex ed. My question is really what to include to avoid erectile dysfunction, as of now, I am just using an over the counter horny goat weed and Maca root combo which is working, but not totally giving me the standing ovation I am used to if you catch my drift.
Any constructive feed back would me much appreciated.[/quote]
5 things:
1]What you are running is pretty sub-optimal. You have no test and almost no decent source of aromatization for estrogen, eq at best is a poor choice. Even subbing in dbol for the tbol would be an improvement. Adding just 200mg of test would be a good idea.
2]Adding that test would assist with ED issues a bit as would adding masteron. Test + mast is a delightful pairing for a variety of reasons including erectile ones.
3]That tren ace is ideally run ED not EOD. Given the half-life of acetate about 2/3rd’s of your product is gone after 48hrs and thats too much fluctuation.
4]With tren its wise to include a dopamine agonist like caber or prami
5]Finally get some tadafil if your erections are still less than desired
first cycle you should state what your goals are and take what helps you meet your goals for most people the basic cycles work great just always use a test. basic cycle ive always seen work 12 weeks 600mg/week test cycp, 600mg deca, 25-50mg d-bol for weeks 3-9 then just use a cycle of hcg at the end
so i am about to start a cycle, 10 weeks of sus250, 5oomg a week… i was also gonna take armidex and hcg but not sure how much of each to take… also the hcg is 10000 iu not sure how that breaks down, i know i wont be taking that much so how does it breakdown in size? can someone suggest a weekly cycle breakdown? also, is it better to split the test up into 2 shots a week @250mg versus one shot of 500mg a week? will i need anything else for a pct? thanks for any help!!!
[quote]dexterd wrote:
so i am about to start a cycle, 10 weeks of sus250, 5oomg a week… i was also gonna take armidex and hcg but not sure how much of each to take… also the hcg is 10000 iu not sure how that breaks down, i know i wont be taking that much so how does it breakdown in size? can someone suggest a weekly cycle breakdown? also, is it better to split the test up into 2 shots a week @250mg versus one shot of 500mg a week? will i need anything else for a pct? thanks for any help!!![/quote]
A lot of the answers you seek are in the other stickies but I’ll try and throw you a bone here:
I assume you already have in your procession the Sust, Adex and hcg? As well as pins, BS water? Im concerned about you asking about PCT for unless you planned to test taper you probably want a serm. And if you wanna taper, Sust is less than an ideal choice.
Due to the prop which is in Sust, it is advisable to hit the Sust EOD. If you desire an approx. weekly dose of 500mg you’ll obviously want about .6ml EOD then. Adex dosing is a very personal and individual thing. But something like .25mg EOD is a fine, all be it arbitrary starting point for you. hcg is most commonly taken at 250iu’s EOD/E3D/M-W-F something like that. If your hcg powder is 10000iu’s it will depend how much BSwater you put in to reconstitute to determine your ratio. There is no right or wrong just whatever you can deal with, and to a degree how good your math skills are and how much or little you want shoot at a time.
If you didn’t completely understand everything I said above then you need to realize you are very under-educated in terms of how to safely and successfully use aas. It might be prudent to delay jumping into the pool until you can better swim; if you get the analogy.
The mere fact you would assert 1 weekly dose of Sust and your uncertainty about PCT suggests to me you have a bit more to learn. It also sounds like you might need to acquire some supplies in the interim.
I have been on Testosterone cypionate for 7 years because of the medical need. A nice side-effect has been I’m still in good shape at 59 and can keep up with 30 year olds on the bench. I do have one question for those younger who use Testosterone:
As soon as I started the injections my cholesterol went from 190 to 650. I am now on two meds to reduce this. For the guys using this to build muscle mass have you checked your cholesterol levels? My doctor says that this is not abnormal.
Test and many other AAS can lower HDL and raise LDL. Like anything YMMV. 190 to 650 is extreme and I’d be curious of the breakdown of your numbers. But without doubt or question if you have a natural predisposition to cholesterol issues you wanna be prepared when on aas.
Personally yes my cholesterol profile worsens on AAS without proper management. In addition to some of the usual suspects like red yeast rice [hard to find the real good stuff these days] and fish oils etc. I do use a statin as well
saps,
Total testosterone is 445
Free testosterone is 33.7
Total cholesterol now is 160
LDL is 130
HDL is 35
Fellow iron brothers,
- Which is really the safest, works great & best bet for on -cycle ancillaries?
a. nolva at 20-40mg/day ?
b. adex at 0.5-1mg/day ?
c. or combination of both nolva & adex?
- Which is really the safest, works great & best bet for PCT? (with no rebound)
a. nolva + clomid + HCG
b. adex + clomid + HCG
Thank you in advance!
Fellow iron brothers,
- Which is really the safest, works great & best bet for on -cycle ancillaries?
a. nolva at 20-40mg/day ?
b. adex at 0.5-1mg/day ?
c. or combination of both nolva & adex?
- Which is really the safest, works great & best bet for PCT? (with no rebound)
a. nolva + clomid + HCG
b. adex + clomid + HCG
Thank you in advance!
Ok…I want to start my first cycle of Tren E/ Test E. 300mg / 500mg. I have been working out and eating decently for about 7 yrs. i have alot of muscle mass. I am 6’4" 280lbs but by no means FAT! I want to do this cycle for 7 weeks and then go from there. Any input???