So I have re-evaluated my staying on for years, and I am considering just staying on from January to the end of June. My cycle would look like this,
Wks 1-12 Test enan 500wk
wks 1-10 Tren enan 500wk
wks 13-16 test enan 200wk
wks 17-24 test enan 500wk
wks 19-23 turinabol (possibly halo, if I can get my hands on it)
I was thinking that I would run nolva throughout, @20 per day then jump on clomid about 4 weeks after. My question is this, is this enough to get myself somewhat started back? Maybe I’m just lying to myself and trying to come up with a perfect solution when there is none, but this is my plan unless the wiser out there say no good. I will run HCG with if needed, but don’t have easy access to it. Any help is appreciated.
I understand where you are coming from, once you have a couple of cycles under your belt, lasting gains from AAS are essentially a pipe dream. I’m beginning to figure this out myself, and have a similar concern towards children, however I do think the risk of full infertility is a bit overrated as many heavy users do conceive. I’ve stated before that the likelihood of siring female children is greatly increased, and have read that doses of 100mg test/week is about where you need to be if trying for a boy. However lowered semen volume from testicular atrophy could of itself cause an impediment to conceive thus HCG would for sure be a good bet.
You could also consider insulin or hgh use, but the latter is prohibitively expensive and the former some would advise against entirely. That being said (and this may seem obvious) re-evaluate the quantity of calories that you consume, that will always be the limiting factor of your maintainable size; of course if you make it to your genetic potential everything else will fall to adipose but the caloric intake you have maintain will be staggering nonetheless.
I would wager the swolest of the swole consume easily 7000-10000(!!) cals a day, try to envision what that must look like or how much volume that actually is. I’ve taken to supplementing solid food with large quantities of [3cups oatmeal/ 1 cup sugar/ 100g whey] that I blend down to a drinkable shake, each one being about 1500 kcals that I can drink throughout the day at work and whatnot as I simply lack the stomach volume to keep up with what I need. When I finally do cut I’ll probably swap that out for a similar concoction involving coconut oil or some other fat, but I’m really not looking forward to the gastric stress or liquidy bowels thats going to cause.
@OP You are obviously far more experienced than I am with AAS as I am now going to start my first cycle but I have trained for about 5 years and trained a lot of people naturally, if someone your size (200lb what height?) was asking to get bigger at 12%BF and they were struggling I would get them to lower this to 8 first. There are many reasons behind this including better hormone profiles and the fact you don’t have to eat so much like c.m.l post because you wont weigh as much.
My advice to you though would be that you aren’t having trouble gaining on the cycles but just keeping it ye? So run a cycle again pack it on, then switch to PCT and run albuterols with it and as cml just advised eat like a monster to keep the weight.
[quote]Drainage wrote:
Any healthy male in there twenty’s who stays on for 2 years is a loser unless, of course, using TRT under the care of a physician. [/quote]
[quote]Sam_Boy wrote:
Who is this guy he pops up on every thread lately on an AAS board calling people who do it losers, how to make friends hey. [/quote]
I imagine he is a small bloke who thinks quarter squatting 315 throws him in the same category as Dan Greene
I looking for an opinion on adding Masteron mid way through a 16 week cycle.Currently 200 mg cyp eod.200 mg primo eod 1 adex per week.15 iu hcg ed,10iu insulin w/evening meal after workout.Strength is great,bf% is dropping and not much water.I keep hearing great things about Masteron and want it.Any thoughts or comments on dosages .I have 10 more weeks.Any advice would be appreciated.Happy Holidays!
[quote]thedoc wrote:
I looking for an opinion on adding Masteron mid way through a 16 week cycle.Currently 200 mg cyp eod.200 mg primo eod 1 adex per week.15 iu hcg ed,10iu insulin w/evening meal after workout.Strength is great,bf% is dropping and not much water.I keep hearing great things about Masteron and want it.Any thoughts or comments on dosages .I have 10 more weeks.Any advice would be appreciated.Happy Holidays![/quote]
Do it!! I love Mast, doesn’t do much for size, but great workouts, and great strength. Look into some halo too!
[quote]Sam_Boy wrote:
Who is this guy he pops up on every thread lately on an AAS board calling people who do it losers, how to make friends hey. [/quote]
I imagine he is a small bloke who thinks quarter squatting 315 throws him in the same category as Dan Greene[/quote]