Starting Sustanon 250 (only)

in a week or two i’ll be receiving a total of 8ml of sustanon 250. i weigh approx 160lb and my height is 6’. i’ve been training for about a year and a half and have researched exercise routines and diets advice here and in books. this is this first time i am trying steroids. i’m currently supplementing with creatine, l-glutamine, vitamin c and multi vitamin. i’m from australia and i can only get sustanon, although i hear it’s a very popular and effective steroid.

to boost my progress over the next week i’m considering a 1ml shot of sustanon per week for 8 weeks. i have no access to anti-eostrogens however i have discussed sustanon with a doctor and although he does not approve he is happy to take a full blood test for me. i’ll have the results by tuesday. i’ve read that this is a low dosage ?

there seem to be so many alternatives on steroids and yet i only have access to one - sustanon. i’ll be increasing my calorie intake to 4-5000 calories, but besides that i’m a little lost how to train/eat differently and how to best use the steroid.

i’m 22 years of age, i’m hoping for a 10-15lb increase in muscle tissue, not sure how realistic this is. i’ve always been told to eat heaps and focus on compound exercises and avoiding overtraining. however i’m not aware of how to train on steroids, i’m guessing i should train the same as i have before just increase the calories (+1000-1500 calories).

i’m a little lost, any advice would be appreciated.

Sustenon is a multi test blend of short acting and longer acting steroids. The problem of it is that the active ingriedient is about 180 mg or less of testosterone, half of that which will pass through your system within the first day or so, due to the short acting ester. That means an initial spike of T each week after your shot, and then lower levels to follow. The lower levels will not be much higher than the levels of test you currently produce, and although you will feel a good boost to begin with because you have the exogenous and endogenous T in your system, after about 3-4 weeks, you will be suppressed naturally, and will be dependant on this minute amount of weekly hormone for all your needs. this amount won’t be significantly higher than what you already produce, so you are just wasting your time and causing uneccessary suppression.

Sustenon is a drug best injected on an ed or eod basis. It is best even if doing lower doses, to devide up your shots in this manner, as it will keep testosterone levels more stable, which will lead to better results.

raffe:

Being 6’and weight 160 pounds, you can grow alot more without steroids. Another 40 pounds isn’t impossible, then you have my blessing;-)

Good that you have researched training programs and diets here but how many have you tried? How do you respond to different types of training / diets?

1,5 years of training under your belt is a bit on the short side.

Age? We are all different, some mature earlier than others,the average age usually mentioned is 24-25 years before starting with steroids. That is to make sure the body is “fully matured”. If you know what I mean?

All in all, I think you should wait a while and dial in your training and diet first. That way you will get a lot more out off you cycle aswell.

All the best and good luck.

“Westside for skinny bastards” and ABBH are the first two things you should be asking about this site at 160lbs 6ft.
If you have already tried these out then start eating. Then eat some more and then add some while train with either one of these programs or any program on this site by Chad W.

Seriously go add another 30lbs+ as mentioned by another and then come back to us after you have spent the next few years getting big and knowledgeable about training, diet, and then roids.
Good luck
DA

P-22 summed it up pretty much. The short acting ester of the Test Prop found in Sustanon will be out of your system by the time you hit your next shot. Your blood serum levels will be all over the place. You should keep a steady blood serum level throughout your entire cycle.

My advice to you is, drop the Sustanon, and go for a less expensive, plain ol’ Test like Cypionate or Enanthate which both have longer half lives which call for less frequent injections. I hope this helps. Good luck.

this helps a lot an i realise i have not really done enough about pushing my body naturally …

anyway i have already paid for sustanon and although the guy is happy to buy it back i’d be interested in making best use of the sustanon while i can get it …

i appreciate the help though, there have been a lot of quality responses and it seems that i’d be best if i spread an amp of sustanon over a week injecting a portion every day or second day … ?

unfortunately this is the only AS i have access to … will it be worth it to gain at least 5kg of lean mass over by the end of the year ?

THe only AAS you have access to??? c’mon, if your bro could get sust I am sure he could get other things as well! as for the sust, still, spreading an amp over a week is still just Hormone Replacement Therapy! not worth your time! You are only suppressing your own natural test production and replacing it with test from your amp. Try spreading at least 2 amps over a week, and do you have any ancillaries, for anti E? nolva? Clomid? Femara? I think you should train naturally for now, while you hunt down sources for more gear, and ancillaries my friend.

thanks prisoner - i had no idea that an amp of sus250 a week was a waste of time, if i went ahead the gains would probably have been based on a higher calorie intake lol.

i’ll cancel the order of sustanon 250, what can i order to replace it for a beginner cycle ?

Stick around here and read - see some of the cycles i have put together for other guys. I don’t think a 'beginner cycle should be any less complexed than a veteran’s cycle, as The common goal is to put on muscle is it not? Dosages will be lower but layout should be the same. Of course Money is always a hinderance, I recomend if going with a test based cycle, that you follow MassN. advice and get some test enanthate - 500 mg per week, with an anti E is a start, but of course not something I would do, as I am more fond of constructing more complexed cycles - I just feel that if you are going to suppress your HPTA you mine as well make it worth while!

[quote]raffe wrote:
thanks prisoner - i had no idea that an amp of sus250 a week was a waste of time, if i went ahead the gains would probably have been based on a higher calorie intake lol.

i’ll cancel the order of sustanon 250, what can i order to replace it for a beginner cycle ?[/quote]

here’s a post from member jackman on another forum … he recommends as a beginner, i should throw the sust and use …

TEST Enanthate 500mg a week for 10 weeks -2 shots a week of 250mg
Nolvadex for anti E 10-20mg ED
Clomid 2 weeks after last inject(pct)

what does ‘suppressing HPTA’ mean ?

I’m getting blood test results shortly - ill post the results here …