Good to hear from you twojar! Sorry to hear about your family.
Thanks @mnben87. It’s good to be back sending my vapid thoughts racing around the globe. I know I said I was going to give the MN economy a needed boost by purchasing a Lund, but it seems as though I wouldn’t get my boat until the lakes are frozen again. A lot of people have the same idea as me right now and Lund can only build fishing boats so fast.
I’m hoping to find something used that isn’t price-gouged too bad, or wait another year or so to realize my fish and ski boat dreams when price and availability returns to normal or, likely, a bit below normal.
I promise I’ll find another way to support the antifa-ravaged economy that’s turned Minnesota into a dystopian hellscape, or so I read online.
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Alumicraft are also a quality boat (and made in MN). I have one of their canoes and it seems just as good (aside from a few scrapes from river rocks) as it did when new in the 1970s.
I don’t want to discourage you, but I think we are basically back to normal. However, we may see some craziness as the trial for Chauvin is coming up soon.
George Bush is concerned about misinformation. These fuckers are just mocking us now. Fuck them all:
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Bush has become almost as bad as Biden. Hard to think he was ever a Republican.
That cunt always was always for the New World Order, so it really isn’t a surprise he would sell out American citizens for globalism.
He would be a subject matter expert.
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Do victims make good experts?
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Touché
I despise that show and I have no idea what specifics GW is talking about, but he’s not necessarily wrong with this. Work visas and green cards can be a nightmare, and I’ve long thought our immigration system was inefficient even by govt standards.
I mean, countries have every right to control their borders. But they also should have a system for immigration that isn’t needlessly complicated in practice.
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Indeed. We rely on illegal immigrants for a lot of work and while I don’t think our we shouldn’t have any type of border policy our immigration system needs to be smart and efficient.
Yeah. I do think uncontrolled immigration is a problem (the only uncontrolled type is the illegal type). I’m totally ok having good discussions and disagreement over what “smart” border policy is, but I think “efficient” should go without saying. Inefficiency kills effective enforcement policy changes AND effective reform, so no matter what side you take it should be a priority.
I mean there’s no reason a person who immigrated here for education and stayed for 15 years (legally), got a PhD, and works in science here should be on the verge of being kicked out due to bureaucratic nonsense. But that is exactly what nearly happened to a friend of mine. He was saved by connections that were able to push things through after they’d been stalled for a year. A whole year.
That shit is just dumb.
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I don’t think you can have any meaningful immigration reform while the border is wide open. You have to secure the border or the rest of it is meaningless. I’m not anti-immigrant at all. I taught at a school where roughly 85% of the student body were undocumented. My wife and her family are immigrants from Vietnam. I grew up working on farms and ranches with numerous illegal aliens who were mostly great people. However I also had a classmate who was duct taped, raped, and attempted to be burned alive by an illegal alien who had been deported twice before. So my feelings are a mixed bag.
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I kind of agree here. I wasn’t so much defending a porous border as attempting to show why both sides should agree there are areas we can improve immediately, and that they’ll have a positive impact on all subsequent work.
To use your example, if you want to secure the border you have to use resources and money, and a lot of people (assuming you’re not going to mobilize the national guard). But everything is a mess, so good luck ramping things up efficiently even if you did have the political will to do it.
Totally. It’s a hard complicated question. I’m not even 100% sure where I fall on everything. But nations absolutely have a right and a duty to regulate their borders. We agree there.
This was the conclusions the Australians drew with regard to the Timor sea also. They realised that while the illegal immigration remained an issue, that they were losing electoral consent for any immigration.
Once they found a solution for the illegal portion, the public calmed down regarding immigration more generally.
The US could copy their solution, but it wouldn’t be nice, and it would appear cruel before it solved the problem.
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It was really a smokescreen, a couple of thousand illegal immigrants being stopped, whilst some years hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants have been let in, year after year, after year. That doesn’t include student visas, or temporary work visas.
The general population never wanted it, were never asked. The only people that wanted it were big business, multinationals, and property developers.
Boris wants the same thing, and so does Biden, but he doesn’t care if they are illegal.
In Australia? It’s much more severe than that. But that’s the Timor sea as a natural border, which is more significant than the English Channel or the Rio Grande.
Boris is a squish on immigration, always has been. If they don’t find a solution, they’ll eventually have another 2016 on their hands, and he punted from power.
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Yep, In Australia. Timor sea, is much larger than the Channel or Rio Grande for sure, but the coastline a significantly larger too. More territory for Border force to monitor, and more places to land. The problem was the industrial level of the people smugglers. Similar to what has been happening with “immigrants” coming via N Africa, via boat, into Europe, across the Mediterranean.
Also the number of people coming in by boat illegally was not big in the scheme of things, compared with people who come in by plane, and overstay in Australia after their visas expire. Its a much trickier problem to deal with, than stopping the boats.
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As I understand it, it’s no longer a massive electoral issue in Aus though, where it is an enormous one in the U.K. and USA. Perhaps because something appears to have been done?
Certainly the law that prevents any illegal from ever getting citizenship is one that is much stiffer than the U.K. has.
The illegal immigrants via boats problem has been effectively solved by the Australian Govt. I’m not for one second saying the US, UK or European Countries couldn’t or shouldn’t employ something similar, it would have a positive effect both on stopping or reducing the problem physically and also in the minds of most voters.
I’m warning not to have the wool pulled over your eyes. All these governments have an agenda for mass immigration, at the expense of the people already living there.
Despite the harshness of the laws many of these illegal immigrants are still given residency, its just not in Australia. New Zealand is pathologically altruistic and accepts most of the people who have no legitimate claim to refugee status in either country.
Once they get NZ citizenship, they are pretty much free to come to Australia, and reside here if that’s what their desire really is.
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