[quote]texasguy2 wrote:
Avocado wrote:
texasguy2 wrote:
Spry wrote:
Someone once said never start a fight - only ever finish one.
If you (or someone else you feel the urge to protect) is in danger then go nuts.
Finish the guy as efficiently as possible. That means no silly rules. That also means you better have a good explanation for the police when the other guy is in hosiptal on life support.
Otherwise ‘trash’ talk is not a good reason. You are not in danger.
Threats are a different matter - they place you in danger.
The repuation remark is interesting. What can one really say about you that would hurt your reputation? People know what you are like already. Some loud mouth who calls you mean things is not going to change that.
Nothing but self-defense is a good reason.
I would suggest blowing trash talk off for the the most part or just returning it and being snappier. But if you are in public and getting clowned repeatedly with out doing anything about it, your reputation will certainly be damaged. Shit talkers do tons of damage in social settings. It’s not necessarily about a loud mouth saying mean things.
Loose lips sink ships after all. I say when “the line” has been crossed, rough the guy up a little. Just enough to put him in his place. You don’t have to break his jaw and kick his unconscious body. There is no need to take emotional abuse.
In some senses I roughly agree with this. Certain people really need a fast swat in the teeth. I am not one to go around “handing them out” like bernie mac but there is an instance when I have smoked a dude for being a cunt. But the key is I got him to touch me first. I would only recommend swatting a guy that has ‘assaulted’ you first. If you can get him to physically interfere with you in any way then you can beat him pretty good in most areas of North America.
the key is i got the guy to push me after an afternoon of asshole smack talk (he was a buddy of an acquaintance). I told him he was a bitch-ass trick that only had the balls to run his mouth and was too lady-like to man up and really fuck with me. And this was the first thing I ever said back to him all afternoon. The rest of it i had ignored and nodded off up till now.
Then I insulted his sexuality in a very long-winded but funny (according to me) way. After this he pushed me and then I basically tortured him, without ever hitting him once, for the better part of 15 mins. Fortunately, people in australia (where I was) are still into letting guys have “fair fights” so it was different than a ‘streetfight’. Nothing puts someone in their place better than ‘palpating’ his kidneys.
-chris
It sounds to me like you instigated, or at least elevated the situation. Then took it too far.
I’m saying that if you are being clowned a little too much you should just rough the guy up a tad, and there is no reason to talk back. When it gets to that point, just ask if he has a problem he’d like to handle. If he keeps yakking, pop him in the mouth.
No need to beat him senseless or magnify the shit talking if you can minimize it before you boil.
Generally, “fair fights” are accepted in Texas too, but the severity of the beating allowed by onlookers directly relates to the offense. A 15 minute beating is a little much for trash talk. It would most likely be broken up at the first sign of blood or one sidedness. But it would be allowed.
Molest a guys girlfriend while drunk at a bar though, and your teeth, facial structuring, rib cage and health in general are up for the taking. [/quote]
After giving him 4 hours to quit being an asshole and telling him several times that I wasn’t a fan of his comments? I just said one thing, one, back to him. Every other comment out of my mouth previous and afterward was polite as a princess. So I don’t think my one comment was considered instigating or elevating. If anything I tried to de-escalate for over 3 hours until it was clear he wouldn’t stop.
Also, note i said I didn’t even hit him, once, ever. He hit me several times in his defense but I just took him down and sat on him for a bit. I made him name ten chocolate bars while flicking his ear. It also turned out he was ticklish, this only made it more fun. And as I said I gave his kidneys and bladder a good palpating. So in reality I didn’t even hurt him. I just embarrassed him for 10-15 minutes. Even his friends didn’t object, knowing he had it coming. They laughed as hard as anyone else.
So he went away with more dignity damage than anything else. A few people said they were surprised I didn’t give him a bit more “what for”.
I feel you on the g/f molestation thing. If I knew of or saw anyone fuck with my gf I would likely end up saran wrapping them to a table and torturing them into an untimely doom with power tools. The thought of anyone fucking with any women I even know is raising my blood pressure.
So that is the exception I would rape someone if they fucked with a woman who could not defend herself. But I have seen some chicks defend themselves quite effectively.
-chris
