[quote]JSMaxwell wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Star wars; overhyped sci-fi with followers that subject ever other sci-fi franchise to the “IT COPIED STAR WARS!” argument.
Making yet another series of boring films full of the same bullshit. BORING![/quote]
lol, definitely some rabid fans no doubt. Still, I like to point out that Star Trek was around much much earlier, as well as the fact that you can parallel every single character, the plot, and even the editing techniques used to Akira Kurosawa’s “The Hidden Fortress”. I actually used this as a lesson when I used to teach a film class. It really ruined Star Wars for most of my students, but I always thought it made for great reflection.
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Thats because they are both (along with The Matrix, Wizard of Oz, Lord of the Rings, and countless others) based on the Hero’s Journey mythology. Its a common storyline that shows up in the myths of cultures throughout the world and history. Stu, did you incorporate the work of Joseph Campbell in the class? [/quote]
Good stuff! I actually have a short video that talks about how there are only so many ‘stories’ that exist, and that anything you read is some version or interpretation of it. Amazingly there are so many making of videos that talk about the amazing impact on pop culture one film can have, and I love to include some of those.
Believe me, I’m definitely a fan (of the original, more so A new Hope and Empire than Jedi though -lol), but all of the later day stuff (prequels, and animated spin offs) I can take or leave really. Not sure if they’re just much lower quality (probably), or simply that the state the world was in at the time of the original’s release made it a perfect scenario for success vs the versions being released now.
S
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Star wars; overhyped sci-fi with followers that subject ever other sci-fi franchise to the “IT COPIED STAR WARS!” argument.
Making yet another series of boring films full of the same bullshit. BORING![/quote]
lol, definitely some rabid fans no doubt. Still, I like to point out that Star Trek was around much much earlier, as well as the fact that you can parallel every single character, the plot, and even the editing techniques used to Akira Kurosawa’s “The Hidden Fortress”. I actually used this as a lesson when I used to teach a film class. It really ruined Star Wars for most of my students, but I always thought it made for great reflection.
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Makes mental note to re-rent The Hidden Fortress
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Star wars; overhyped sci-fi with followers that subject ever other sci-fi franchise to the “IT COPIED STAR WARS!” argument.
Making yet another series of boring films full of the same bullshit. BORING![/quote]
lol, definitely some rabid fans no doubt. Still, I like to point out that Star Trek was around much much earlier, as well as the fact that you can parallel every single character, the plot, and even the editing techniques used to Akira Kurosawa’s “The Hidden Fortress”. I actually used this as a lesson when I used to teach a film class. It really ruined Star Wars for most of my students, but I always thought it made for great reflection.
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Makes mental note to re-rent The Hidden Fortress
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Very worthy investment, maybe you could get a Kurosawa box deal with Seven Samurai and Rashomon if you’re lucky.
I saw a recent DVD issue of ‘Fortress’, and it even had a few minutes of extras with Lucas talking about how he was so heavily “influenced” by Kurosawa. Hearing this now, and thinking back to how many people used to rip Lucas apart comparing his blatant stealing from his hero back when I was in Film school makes me chuckle.
Of course George viewing himself as being influenced vs other people seeing him as pretty much ripping off is going to come down to how you see things.
S