*Spoilers* Superman Discussion

The Idea of Superman having an a child out of wedlock reeeeally bothered me!

I am not prudish, I just thought it was out of character for Superman. Cheesey.

He is faster than a speeding bullet, you would think he could pull out quicker.

I am suprised DC signed off on the idea.

[quote]Dirty Tiger wrote:
The Idea of Superman having an a child out of wedlock reeeeally bothered me!

I am not prudish, I just thought it was out of character for Superman. Cheesey.

He is faster than a speeding bullet, you would think he could pull out quicker.

I am suprised DC signed off on the idea.[/quote]

Not only that, but he leaves the kid with Lois to, one can only assume, pretend as if Superman really isn’t his father. That is one screwed up family. So, when does Clark start paying child support?

Did anybody else snicker when Lois Lane asked him twice in the movie if he’d be around, and he’d answer “I’m always around?”

I thought it was a rather stupid choice of tag line considering the whole f’ing premise of the movie was that he disappeared for 5 years…

Anyway. I’m going to see it again tomorrow morning on an IMAX screen, and I plan to try turning off my analytical mind so I can enjoy the movie the way a child might. I was in a shitty mood first time I saw it, the result of all sorts of bullshit (IMAX tickets - which I drove 40 minutes for - were sold out, bickering with my fiance, a retard rocking/moaning the whole entire time in the first row, having to leave the theater briefly in the middle to run out to my car). So maybe the plot holes won’t bug me so much this time around.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dirty Tiger wrote:
The Idea of Superman having an a child out of wedlock reeeeally bothered me!

I am not prudish, I just thought it was out of character for Superman. Cheesey.

He is faster than a speeding bullet, you would think he could pull out quicker.

I am suprised DC signed off on the idea.

Not only that, but he leaves the kid with Lois to, one can only assume, pretend as if Superman really isn’t his father. That is one screwed up family. So, when does Clark start paying child support?[/quote]

Not to mention lying to the poor schmuck who’s currently raising the kid, thinking it’s his own.

OK, it sounds like we got ourselves a pretty ‘enlightened male’ audience so far but I found “the bastard child” interesting.

A looooong time ago (probly 5 years) I watched a Discovery Channel production about human sexuality. Don’t ask me to get into the reference details but the conclusion was that women (evolutionaryily speaking) seek to secure a life-mate that will ‘bring home the bacon’ while simultaneously seeking sperm from an ‘Alpha Male.’ The ‘alpha male’ in question would, of course, never consider “settling down.”

The science basically said (whether it is true or not, I don’t know) that sexually speaking, the female is more likely to get pregnant when she orgasms. The argument is backed up by the fact that men seem to excrete two kinds of semen, one that kills another man’s semen and one that is better suited to actually impregnating the woman (apparently the PH of the two semens’ is different.)

So the woman marry’s the chump and humps the hunk. Then the chump raises the hunk’s offspring. The idea should be perfectly obvious to any of you players with a long enough attention span to read this. We guys want to get laid and then never see the chick again. Is she pregnant? Who cares!?

So the whole “bastard child of Superman” thing really reinforces my current views of what consitutes the qualities of an ‘Alpha Male.’

I know this isn’t politically correct, but the Discovery Channel program was quite convincing and it agrees with what I understand of the human psyche.

I loved the movie but I couldn’t help but feel sorry for Lois Lane’s boyfriend. He’s unwittingly raising Superbastard. I hope Clark uses his salary from the Daily Planet to own up to his responsibilities.

…I’m sorry I couldn’t resist!

[quote]setor wrote:
I loved the movie but I couldn’t help but feel sorry for Lois Lane’s boyfriend. He’s unwittingly raising Superbastard. I hope Clark uses his salary from the Daily Planet to own up to his responsibilities.

…I’m sorry I couldn’t resist![/quote]

“Superbastard” - amazing.

[quote]MikeSh wrote:
setor wrote:
I loved the movie but I couldn’t help but feel sorry for Lois Lane’s boyfriend. He’s unwittingly raising Superbastard. I hope Clark uses his salary from the Daily Planet to own up to his responsibilities.

…I’m sorry I couldn’t resist!

“Superbastard” - amazing.[/quote]

Check my first Post on this thread, I invented “Superbastard”

Love Me!

Haven’t read the thread yet… it’s late, just in from the movie… but fuck that was boring.

Really, really underwhelming.

[quote]futuredave wrote:
Haven’t read the thread yet… it’s late, just in from the movie… but fuck that was boring.

Really, really underwhelming.[/quote]

Being underwhelmed can happen really easily when you’ve spent the last 10 days hearing how amazing a movie is.

I refuse to go into a movie with any sort of high expectations now, for just that reason.

The fact that Lois’s boyfriend is raising Superman’s child really ruins the movie from me. So Lois fucks Superman starts going out with some other guy and tells him that it is his?

Ok, either she was going out with him already before she fucks Superman, or she fucks Superman right before she goes out with this guy. Something doesn’t click how does this guy not notice something isn’t right. Where is the paternity test?

Superman is supposed to stand for good and justice, where are all his morals when he knows they are fucking this guy over? Heck, he is suppose to be paying child support. Not only that but he gets her to cheat on him again? Seriously, since when is he “SuperPlaya”.

If they would have excluded the whole “SuperBastard” thing from the movie it would have been much more enjoyable.

I also agree with the issue about Lex being so smart yet coming up with such a stupid idea with all that technology. Why not do the cliche ‘take over the world’ deal? Making your own continent on place of another isn’t too clever especially when you are destroying the richest country of all. The point was to sell land on this continent for a profit? Destroying your biggest consumer wouldn’t be to smart. Why not just print your own money you have the technology, or just steal it. Bah!

Question for Prof. X.:

I haven’t watched smallville but heard they recently brought Braniac into the equation. Is it well done? It might give me a reason to take a look.

[quote]Naphta wrote:
Question for Prof. X.:

I haven’t watched smallville but heard they recently brought Braniac into the equation. Is it well done? It might give me a reason to take a look.[/quote]

I don’t watch much TV. I am a year behind on that series because I just wait for the DVD to come out and buy it. I suppose that means I need TiVo. This current season doesn’t come out until October so I only know what I hear from other people. According to them, this is the best season they’ve had.

[quote]GaMeOvEr305 wrote:
The fact that Lois’s boyfriend is raising Superman’s child really ruins the movie from me. So Lois fucks Superman starts going out with some other guy and tells him that it is his?

Ok, either she was going out with him already before she fucks Superman, or she fucks Superman right before she goes out with this guy. Something doesn’t click how does this guy not notice something isn’t right. Where is the paternity test?

Superman is supposed to stand for good and justice, where are all his morals when he knows they are fucking this guy over? Heck, he is suppose to be paying child support. Not only that but he gets her to cheat on him again? Seriously, since when is he “SuperPlaya”.

If they would have excluded the whole “SuperBastard” thing from the movie it would have been much more enjoyable.

I also agree with the issue about Lex being so smart yet coming up with such a stupid idea with all that technology. Why not do the cliche ‘take over the world’ deal? Making your own continent on place of another isn’t too clever especially when you are destroying the richest country of all. The point was to sell land on this continent for a profit? Destroying your biggest consumer wouldn’t be to smart. Why not just print your own money you have the technology, or just steal it. Bah![/quote]

I could be wrong, but does the movie ever specifically tell us that she has told the new boyfriend that the child is his? They are only engaged…5 years would be a long engagement. He could have easily come on the scene after she got pregnant/had the child and raised it like his own. However, I could have missed where they showed anything that definitely led us to believe that she was telling him he was the daddy.

The cannibalistic pomeranian was funny.

[quote]RickJames wrote:
GaMeOvEr305 wrote:
The fact that Lois’s boyfriend is raising Superman’s child really ruins the movie from me. So Lois fucks Superman starts going out with some other guy and tells him that it is his?

Ok, either she was going out with him already before she fucks Superman, or she fucks Superman right before she goes out with this guy. Something doesn’t click how does this guy not notice something isn’t right. Where is the paternity test?

Superman is supposed to stand for good and justice, where are all his morals when he knows they are fucking this guy over? Heck, he is suppose to be paying child support. Not only that but he gets her to cheat on him again? Seriously, since when is he “SuperPlaya”.

If they would have excluded the whole “SuperBastard” thing from the movie it would have been much more enjoyable.

I also agree with the issue about Lex being so smart yet coming up with such a stupid idea with all that technology. Why not do the cliche ‘take over the world’ deal? Making your own continent on place of another isn’t too clever especially when you are destroying the richest country of all. The point was to sell land on this continent for a profit? Destroying your biggest consumer wouldn’t be to smart. Why not just print your own money you have the technology, or just steal it. Bah!

I could be wrong, but does the movie ever specifically tell us that she has told the new boyfriend that the child is his? They are only engaged…5 years would be a long engagement. He could have easily come on the scene after she got pregnant/had the child and raised it like his own. However, I could have missed where they showed anything that definitely led us to believe that she was telling him he was the daddy.

The cannibalistic pomeranian was funny. [/quote]

There were a few seconds there I was bit tripped out thinking that the thing had eaten the old hag, then I realized there was only one of them.

You are corrent I can’t recall whether he knew it wasn’t his or not, but I’m assuming he thinks it is his.

Regardless, I don’t see why they had to have Lois with have Superman’s kid and especially that way. I haven’t read the comics but is there mention of her having Superman’s kid?

Just saw it and Im not impressed to be honest. I just dont buy the whole child thing, Lex was crap, Lois was too young and wimpy and pretty much all the inconsistant stuff already mentioned bugged me.

It wasnt all bad, the bit with the shuttle / plane thing at the start was pretty spectacular and Routhe was surprisingly good.

Get rid of the son, get Kate Beckinsdale as Lois, give Spacey something more to work with and you’d have a movie.

[quote]comedypedro wrote:

Get rid of the son, get Kate Beckinsdale as Lois, give Spacey something more to work with and you’d have a movie.[/quote]

It kind of makes you wonder why no one told Bryan Singer this when it seems that obvious to everyone else.

[quote]comedypedro wrote:
It wasnt all bad, the bit with the shuttle / plane thing at the start was pretty spectacular and Routhe was surprisingly good.

Get rid of the son, get Kate Beckinsdale as Lois, give Spacey something more to work with and you’d have a movie.[/quote]

I agree.

Same with Prof X about Superman looking too soft. The first time I saw a pic of the new actor/costume someone asked me what I thought of it. I said, “I think he looks really pretty.” They asked for a clarification and I said he looks more like a metrosexual Superman who’d have to make sure his hair looked “just right” before going out and saving the world. There were several scenes in the movie where I thought Routh’s face looked plastic.

That being said, I think Routh nailed Clark’s/Superman’s mannerisms and did a good job in carrying the torch, so to speak.

I’d also liked to have seen Superman go back to Krypton (there was a cut of this in the first trailer) and explore the ruins, having it sink in he’s the last person from the planet (that he knows of anyway) and have him comes to grips with it as well as going back to earth and readjusting there.

The cold shoulder Clark Kent got from the Daily Planet staff surprised me. I started a new job over two weeks ago, got switched to another office for a week, came back for a visit and got a much better reception than Clark did.

Having Luthor talk on and on about harvesting the Krypton technology then only creating an island? WTF. And if the island was that deadly to Superman since it was partially made from Kryptonite, shouldn’t Superman have sensed it before landing since the island was so big?

It was good to see the character back again, though. Hopefully they’ll do more with the next movie.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
comedypedro wrote:

Get rid of the son, get Kate Beckinsdale as Lois, give Spacey something more to work with and you’d have a movie.

It kind of makes you wonder why no one told Bryan Singer this when it seems that obvious to everyone else.[/quote]

I gotta agree! I heard that Singer never really read the comics. It shows.

DC Comics should be ashamed.

Here are some observations:

  1. As to the Lois Lane issue: they turned a blonde into a brunette. Translation: artificial intelligence, no wonder she didn’t fit.

2)I have never seen Smallville, but I do live next door, literally.

  1. Concur, Lois Lane was flat butted

  2. Concur, cannabolistic poms were hilarious.

  3. It was like deja vu all over again with this movie: so many scenes that “mimicked” the original, 1978 movie, which I didn’t mind, including the original score.