[quote]EstoVir wrote:
Holy Shit! Sold out already.
I guess this means 8 weeks until a restock. Right?
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Crap, so I just drove like 3+ hours each way to go get my bigger balance credit card from my old apartment to put in my order… I just got home. Boo.
If anyone wants to sell 1 bottle, let me know.
damn dude, lol
Went for a little more thorough coat this time, and I feel like I rubbed vicks vapor rub all over my body, lol. 70 sprays… that’s ok right?
FYI to people applying the first time- like any spray bottle, the line and nozzle have to be primed before it starts spraying properly. At first the sprays will seem insignificant, but once enough pressure is built it’ll create sprays big enough to where 35 pumps does a good job of covering the available areas on the skin.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Ironliftr3 wrote:
I tried asking this in the “steroid” forum, but got no response. Hope I’m not too off topic by asking it here…
What do you guys think of mixing Androgel with 99% isopropyl alcohol, ala ‘finaplix’? If it works for a delivery system for 4-AD, fina, and now 11-T, would making androgel into a "spray-on’ increase the absorption rate?
I’d love to hear Bill Roberts’s take on this.
Have to add in, it’s great to have Bill Roberts back…and I’ll echo the sentiment that Androsol, as was MAG-10, was a simply incredible product!
That is probably a most excellent idea.
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Excellent, and THANK YOU for the response Bill! You’re the man!
Luckily, I STILL have an Androsol bottle left, and now an ‘excuse’ to buy 11-T, just to get extra bottles!
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
analog_kid wrote:
No shit! I recommend doing your spraying in the bath room with the ventilation fan ON.
I dig the cooling sensation from the menthol. Nice after a hard workout.
I’m feeling a little tingle in my legs, which is good because I was afraid I would be unable to penetrate the thick forest of gorilla hair on them.
So it did work ok with body hair? Damn, and I broke out the clippers for nothing!
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As far as I can tell. I looked closely to see if I could see any liquid or droplets accumulating on the hair and I saw nothing, so it’s either too small for me to see, or it’s getting through.
I didn’t touch my legs, but I did shave my chest for the first time ever and I feel like a over-grown 13 year old boy. Now I know why guys who shave their chest never wear a shirt, it fuckin itches!
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
I don’t tend to think that any of the moisturizing bar soaps change the skin enough to be an issue, though I’m hardly an expert on those. But they don’t seem to.
Your general concern makes a lot of sense and almost undoubtedly I think would be an issue if using a moisturizing lotion, as they really do leave a lot in the skin.
The active needs to dissolve into the skin, not into a residue of a moisturizing lotion which then readily could be sweated or rubbed off.[/quote]
Thanks Bill.It’s been some years, but back in the fina/androsol spray days, I used Ivory soap since that was about as moisturizer/fragrance free as soap comes. I’ll experiment both ways (Dove/Ivory) and give feedback accordingly. I’m starting this weekend.
[quote]skohcl wrote:
Went for a little more thorough coat this time, and I feel like I rubbed vicks vapor rub all over my body, lol. 70 sprays… that’s ok right?[/quote]
No more than 35 at one time. 70 total is ok spread out over 2 applications through the day.
I do 35 around 10am and another 35 around 8pm or so.
70 sprays? lol holy F&$k.
Is 11-T ever gonna be available in England???
Bill,
Questions:
How exactly does this cortisol-inhibiting spray increase libido ?
Can it be used while using Adex ?
I take thyroid meds (cytomel & synthroid). I realize the warning states for people w/ throid problems to not use 11-T. Why is that, and do you personally see a problem with using that while on thyroid meds?
Thanks in advance. Good to see you’re back.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
skohcl wrote:
Went for a little more thorough coat this time, and I feel like I rubbed vicks vapor rub all over my body, lol. 70 sprays… that’s ok right?
No more than 35 at one time. 70 total is ok spread out over 2 applications through the day.
I do 35 around 10am and another 35 around 8pm or so.[/quote]
Any troubles falling asleep? It could have been coincidental, but I was wired from about half an hour after spraying(6pm) to about 12am.
[quote]TheG wrote:
Is 11-T ever gonna be available in England???[/quote]
Probably not.
[quote]analog_kid wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
skohcl wrote:
Went for a little more thorough coat this time, and I feel like I rubbed vicks vapor rub all over my body, lol. 70 sprays… that’s ok right?
No more than 35 at one time. 70 total is ok spread out over 2 applications through the day.
I do 35 around 10am and another 35 around 8pm or so.
Any troubles falling asleep? It could have been coincidental, but I was wired from about half an hour after spraying(6pm) to about 12am.
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I slept like a rock last night, and sprayed on a coat about 90 minutes before going to bed. I did feel a small burst of energy when I layed down, but fell asleep right after. I’ve been buzzing all day today so we’ll see how it goes tonight.
[quote]analog_kid wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
skohcl wrote:
Went for a little more thorough coat this time, and I feel like I rubbed vicks vapor rub all over my body, lol. 70 sprays… that’s ok right?
No more than 35 at one time. 70 total is ok spread out over 2 applications through the day.
I do 35 around 10am and another 35 around 8pm or so.
Any troubles falling asleep? It could have been coincidental, but I was wired from about half an hour after spraying(6pm) to about 12am.
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I had really bad sleep…I can’t say for sure whether or not it was related to 11-t, but I took melatonin and woke up 3 hours later and couldn’t go back to sleep for another 2 1/2 hours.
[quote]BeforeIforget wrote:
So just wondering if 11-T is the famed “Anaconda” people have been waiting for on this site for a few years? Or do we still have another supp to look out for in the future?[/quote]
Nope, it is not Anaconda.
[quote]poophead wrote:
Bill,
Questions:
How exactly does this cortisol-inhibiting spray increase libido ?
Can it be used while using Adex ?
I take thyroid meds (cytomel & synthroid). I realize the warning states for people w/ throid problems to not use 11-T. Why is that, and do you personally see a problem with using that while on thyroid meds?
Thanks in advance. Good to see you’re back.
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Thanks!
If it does then it would be by an androgenic effect.
There isn’t any direct conflict, though if natural T production drops while using it, the rate of natural estrogen production would drop, and Arimidex might drive it below the low end of normal.
A sign of estrogen going too low is loss of libido despite androgenic stimulation (some however have good libido anyway from high androgen and low estrogen, so still having libido doesn’t prove estrogen levels are at least normal, but lacking libido despite androgen does strongly suggest it.)
[quote]skohcl wrote:
Went for a little more thorough coat this time, and I feel like I rubbed vicks vapor rub all over my body, lol. 70 sprays… that’s ok right?[/quote]
I tried 70 simply because I prefer to have a margin where double our recommended use is still tolerable to me personally, except in those cases where I’m unusually sensitive to or intolerant of a compound that, in contrast, most people do OK with.
(The two relevant examples of that are that I can’t tolerate Eurycoma longifolia or sulbutamine, so the fact that I can’t tolerate double doses of those Biotest products isn’t a concern.)
I had no problem with 70 sprays, but for example Tim would be having to peel himself off the ceiling if he used that; it sounds as if it would be too much for TC as well; and for sure on an ongoing basis that dosing would be quite expensive (slightly over $10/day to use at that dose if 2x/day.)
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
BeforeIforget wrote:
So just wondering if 11-T is the famed “Anaconda” people have been waiting for on this site for a few years? Or do we still have another supp to look out for in the future?
Nope, it is not Anaconda.
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ugh. the elusive Anaconda. at this point i dont even remember what Anaconda is supposed to do, but boy do i want some.
Do we need to shower between coats? Example, after your morning shower, you apply the coat, but later on the day, do you have to shower before you apply the next coat?
Thanks