more chum in the water . . .
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
^ very offensive and rude, but you have the right to your own opinions however sad and juvenile they may be[/quote]
And we promise not to kill him or his family, nor do any bodily harm to him.
Do you know why these many muslims embrace violence? Because it’s working. Whether it’s a part of their faith or not I don’t know and I don’t care. To damn many of them use it as an excuse to hurt maim and kill. WE let it happen and continue to cave.
Don’t want your prophet mocked? Just threaten death and “they” will cave. See South Park, Comedy Central just rolled over and pee’d itself. Took out all the offensive stuff.
None of the major news networks would print the Danish cartoon because of threats of violence.
However, Crucifix in a jar of urine, no problem we’ll post a picture of that. It’s a-ok to mock Jews and Christians all over the place. Comedy Central has nothing to fear from Christians or Jews. Nobody does, so it’s ok to openly mock them.
Europe. The epicenter of pussy-dom especially in England. They let violent outward Jihadists in to their country unfettered, and without hindrance. They allow foreigners on their own soil that call for the violent over throw of their governement to be replaced with Sha’ria law. Sweden, getting over run, Stockholm is known as ‘little Beirut’. And who are the ballsy ones? The French and the Swiss, of all the folks to take a stand.
Yes folks, they are responsible for their own violence, but we, the people, allowed it to be an effective methodology. It’s so effective, it’s even taboo to call people or things what they are because it might offend someone and they will get violent. When we stop being afraid of these people, stand up to them, and quit being pussies.
Let’s offend some people and fuck’em if they don’t like it. Let’s treat all religions the same, there is not reason Islam gets a free pass when so many of their practitioners act so violently, today. Not 100, 200, 600 years ago, right fucking now.
[quote]pat wrote:
<<< Do you know why these many muslims embrace violence? Because it’s working. Whether it’s a part of their faith or not I don’t know and I don’t care. To damn many of them use it as an excuse to hurt maim and kill. WE let it happen and continue to cave. >>>[/quote]
Your whole post is pretty much correct, but it does matter that these people believe they are under divine compulsion in their actions. Until we finally get it in our heads that the Jihadists are the ones practicing authentic Islam and it is not essentially a religion of peace and love and adopt a zero tolerance policy nothing will change.
This actually has nothing directly to do with my Christian convictions though I do regard Islam as a pagan false religion. There are dozens of other religions I also regard as pagan and false and some with pretty significant numbers that I would not deny full access to my society. In fact just about all of em except Islam which is a theocratic/political system of divine conquest by force if necessary. This is the diametric opposite of all other religions I’m aware of, and I’m aware of quite a few, but especially Christianity.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
^ very offensive and rude, but you have the right to your own opinions however sad and juvenile they may be[/quote]
And we promise not to kill him or his family, nor do any bodily harm to him.
Do you know why these many muslims embrace violence? Because it’s working. Whether it’s a part of their faith or not I don’t know and I don’t care. To damn many of them use it as an excuse to hurt maim and kill. WE let it happen and continue to cave.
Don’t want your prophet mocked? Just threaten death and “they” will cave. See South Park, Comedy Central just rolled over and pee’d itself. Took out all the offensive stuff.
None of the major news networks would print the Danish cartoon because of threats of violence.
However, Crucifix in a jar of urine, no problem we’ll post a picture of that. It’s a-ok to mock Jews and Christians all over the place. Comedy Central has nothing to fear from Christians or Jews. Nobody does, so it’s ok to openly mock them.
Europe. The epicenter of pussy-dom especially in England. They let violent outward Jihadists in to their country unfettered, and without hindrance. They allow foreigners on their own soil that call for the violent over throw of their governement to be replaced with Sha’ria law. Sweden, getting over run, Stockholm is known as ‘little Beirut’. And who are the ballsy ones? The French and the Swiss, of all the folks to take a stand.
Yes folks, they are responsible for their own violence, but we, the people, allowed it to be an effective methodology. It’s so effective, it’s even taboo to call people or things what they are because it might offend someone and they will get violent. When we stop being afraid of these people, stand up to them, and quit being pussies.
Let’s offend some people and fuck’em if they don’t like it. Let’s treat all religions the same, there is not reason Islam gets a free pass when so many of their practitioners act so violently, today. Not 100, 200, 600 years ago, right fucking now.
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A lot of islam = bad and as you say, Europe has problems because they let hostile elements in, although you’re kind of exaggerating a little because Sweden or related country is still more ethnically homogenous than USA will ever be.
Secondly, when possible, kosher conservatives will refer to immigrants of widely varying racial and geographic composition simply as ‘muslims’ which potentially obscures details of the problem. Like treating iraqis and somalis as being the same because of the association with islam (these nationalities are heavily represented in countries like Sweden or Finland).
Well, we know from statistics that the somalis/related african nationalities (A.K.A blacks) are still somewhat more aggressive. So is it a religion issue or a race issue? Perhaps it’s both but FBI statistics and such from abroad suggest that it’s more than a religion issue.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
<<< Nazi are just member of a political party. Which I don’t think constitute an ethnic group. Are the Democrat an ethnic group or the republican? The nazis identified with each other through being member of a political party called Nazi party. While Muslims identified with each other through a common heritage wich is their religion.
heritage : anything that has been transmitted from the past or handed down by tradition
[/quote]
You were flirting with coherence there for a second and ya had me goin, but alas it was not to be. Despite being satisfied with your own brilliance, heritage and ethnicity are nonetheless not strictly synonymous. Not that it really matters, but I’m havin fun with you.[/quote]
That is not what I mean. Again you fail to understand.
[quote]Alffi wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
^ very offensive and rude, but you have the right to your own opinions however sad and juvenile they may be[/quote]
And we promise not to kill him or his family, nor do any bodily harm to him.
Do you know why these many muslims embrace violence? Because it’s working. Whether it’s a part of their faith or not I don’t know and I don’t care. To damn many of them use it as an excuse to hurt maim and kill. WE let it happen and continue to cave.
Don’t want your prophet mocked? Just threaten death and “they” will cave. See South Park, Comedy Central just rolled over and pee’d itself. Took out all the offensive stuff.
None of the major news networks would print the Danish cartoon because of threats of violence.
However, Crucifix in a jar of urine, no problem we’ll post a picture of that. It’s a-ok to mock Jews and Christians all over the place. Comedy Central has nothing to fear from Christians or Jews. Nobody does, so it’s ok to openly mock them.
Europe. The epicenter of pussy-dom especially in England. They let violent outward Jihadists in to their country unfettered, and without hindrance. They allow foreigners on their own soil that call for the violent over throw of their governement to be replaced with Sha’ria law. Sweden, getting over run, Stockholm is known as ‘little Beirut’. And who are the ballsy ones? The French and the Swiss, of all the folks to take a stand.
Yes folks, they are responsible for their own violence, but we, the people, allowed it to be an effective methodology. It’s so effective, it’s even taboo to call people or things what they are because it might offend someone and they will get violent. When we stop being afraid of these people, stand up to them, and quit being pussies.
Let’s offend some people and fuck’em if they don’t like it. Let’s treat all religions the same, there is not reason Islam gets a free pass when so many of their practitioners act so violently, today. Not 100, 200, 600 years ago, right fucking now.
[/quote]
A lot of islam = bad and as you say, Europe has problems because they let hostile elements in, although you’re kind of exaggerating a little because Sweden or related country is still more ethnically homogenous than USA will ever be.
Secondly, when possible, kosher conservatives will refer to immigrants of widely varying racial and geographic composition simply as ‘muslims’ which potentially obscures details of the problem. Like treating iraqis and somalis as being the same because of the association with islam (these nationalities are heavily represented in countries like Sweden or Finland).
Well, we know from statistics that the somalis/related african nationalities (A.K.A blacks) are still somewhat more aggressive. So is it a religion issue or a race issue? Perhaps it’s both but FBI statistics and such from abroad suggest that it’s more than a religion issue.[/quote]
That’s not what I said. I did not say islam = bad, nor did I say only seedy elements are pouring into Europe. There are plenty of muslim’s with evil on their minds and a desire to carry said evil out. They admit this, willingly and unafraid. You have to be six ways stupid to not see that a lot of folks, who are muslim’s emigrated to Europe and have intentions or desire to do harm to those of their adopted countries.
What I do not hear, is out right condemnation from the greater muslim community, likely because they are afraid to condemn it, if they actually do. We only here from radicals and their supporters. Let’s set the record strait once and for all on the matter, this is no small number of folks. A minority, if it is a minority, is still a hell of a lot when you are talking about 1.2 billion people. Do you know how much .1% of 1.2 Billion is? 1.2 million…That makes a hell of an army and I am quite sure the percentage is higher than .1%.
If the greater muslim community does not agree or condemns this violence and hate filled speech, they need to speak out and quit being afraid of these terrorist pussies as do we. We infidels cannot here their voices, if they exist, we don’t, and cannot know it.
If the great community of muslim’s disagree with the violence and discrimination so outwardly visible in Islam, then I will gladly join hands with them and fight the terrorists who claim Islam as their muse for violence. Don’t expect me to dig, though. Grow a pair and oppose your enemy.
We infidels need to grab a pair too. That’s my main point… Our constant cowering to violent threats only empowers them more, and to many people cower and it’s only making the problem worse. It’s like a global street gang is all it is at this point.
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
<<< Nazi are just member of a political party. Which I don’t think constitute an ethnic group. Are the Democrat an ethnic group or the republican? The nazis identified with each other through being member of a political party called Nazi party. While Muslims identified with each other through a common heritage wich is their religion.
heritage : anything that has been transmitted from the past or handed down by tradition
[/quote]
You were flirting with coherence there for a second and ya had me goin, but alas it was not to be. Despite being satisfied with your own brilliance, heritage and ethnicity are nonetheless not strictly synonymous. Not that it really matters, but I’m havin fun with you.[/quote]
That is not what I mean. Again you fail to understand.
[/quote]
You know what chief? I believe you are correct. I did misread that post having now reread it and I have made an ass of myself. I apologize.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
<<< Nazi are just member of a political party. Which I don’t think constitute an ethnic group. Are the Democrat an ethnic group or the republican? The nazis identified with each other through being member of a political party called Nazi party. While Muslims identified with each other through a common heritage wich is their religion.
heritage : anything that has been transmitted from the past or handed down by tradition
[/quote]
You were flirting with coherence there for a second and ya had me goin, but alas it was not to be. Despite being satisfied with your own brilliance, heritage and ethnicity are nonetheless not strictly synonymous. Not that it really matters, but I’m havin fun with you.[/quote]
That is not what I mean. Again you fail to understand.
[/quote]
You know what chief? I believe you are correct. I did misread that post having now reread it and I have made an ass of myself. I apologize. [/quote]
no problem 
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
but how many have read the Koran?
[/quote]
OOh OOh OOH - - ME!!! (waves hand in the air)
and my arabic is descent on the reading level - working on the speaking right now (Syrian family)
any other questions?[/quote]
Yeah, what are you going to do with all that $$ the government is going to pay you to be an analyst or linguist? :-)[/quote]
I’m too opinionated for the government types . . .
[quote]joebassin wrote:
No. If a muslim is defined as a member of the islamic religion and you discriminate against them, then you are a racist. It’s just definition. Muslims = an ethnic group; while the nazis are not an ethnic group. [/quote]
What the fuck are you talking about? Are all Muslims Arab now?
Did I miss the memo?
Did someone notify Yusef Islam?
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
No. If a muslim is defined as a member of the islamic religion and you discriminate against them, then you are a racist. It’s just definition. Muslims = an ethnic group; while the nazis are not an ethnic group. [/quote]
What the fuck are you talking about? Are all Muslims Arab now?
Did I miss the memo?
Did someone notify Yusef Islam?[/quote]
???
[quote]joebassin wrote:
Nazi are just member of a political party.
[/quote]
Wrong. It also referred to an ideology and faith, Nazism, brought about through shared assumed heritage. Hence by the UN definition an ethnic group.
[quote]phaethon wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
Nazi are just member of a political party.
[/quote]
Wrong. It also referred to an ideology and faith, Nazism, brought about through shared assumed heritage. Hence by the UN definition an ethnic group.[/quote]
Nazism even involved a genetic/racial link and ideal. Nazism is in fact much more of an ethnic group than islam is.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]phaethon wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
Nazi are just member of a political party.
[/quote]
Wrong. It also referred to an ideology and faith, Nazism, brought about through shared assumed heritage. Hence by the UN definition an ethnic group.[/quote]
Nazism even involved a genetic/racial link and ideal. Nazism is in fact much more of an ethnic group than islam is.[/quote]
ROFLMAO
Some people will never understand…
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]phaethon wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
Nazi are just member of a political party.
[/quote]
Wrong. It also referred to an ideology and faith, Nazism, brought about through shared assumed heritage. Hence by the UN definition an ethnic group.[/quote]
Nazism even involved a genetic/racial link and ideal. Nazism is in fact much more of an ethnic group than islam is.[/quote]
ROFLMAO
Some people will never understand…[/quote]
Awesome logical break down and retort of my argument, I stand corrected.
Well at least we agree on one thing.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]phaethon wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
Nazi are just member of a political party.
[/quote]
Wrong. It also referred to an ideology and faith, Nazism, brought about through shared assumed heritage. Hence by the UN definition an ethnic group.[/quote]
Nazism even involved a genetic/racial link and ideal. Nazism is in fact much more of an ethnic group than islam is.[/quote]
ROFLMAO
Some people will never understand…[/quote]
Awesome logical break down and retort of my argument, I stand corrected.
Well at least we agree on one thing.[/quote]
First, Islam is a religion not an ethnic group.
Second, Nazi in the previous discussion was define as : a member of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
While it is true that Nazism is an ideology, it was not the subject of the discussion.
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]phaethon wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
Nazi are just member of a political party.
[/quote]
Wrong. It also referred to an ideology and faith, Nazism, brought about through shared assumed heritage. Hence by the UN definition an ethnic group.[/quote]
Nazism even involved a genetic/racial link and ideal. Nazism is in fact much more of an ethnic group than islam is.[/quote]
ROFLMAO
Some people will never understand…[/quote]
Awesome logical break down and retort of my argument, I stand corrected.
Well at least we agree on one thing.[/quote]
First, Islam is a religion not an ethnic group.
Second, Nazi in the previous discussion was define as : a member of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
While it is true that Nazism is an ideology, it was not the subject of the discussion. [/quote]
National Socialist German Workers’ Party - who formed around a presumed racial heritage.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]phaethon wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
Nazi are just member of a political party.
[/quote]
Wrong. It also referred to an ideology and faith, Nazism, brought about through shared assumed heritage. Hence by the UN definition an ethnic group.[/quote]
Nazism even involved a genetic/racial link and ideal. Nazism is in fact much more of an ethnic group than islam is.[/quote]
ROFLMAO
Some people will never understand…[/quote]
Awesome logical break down and retort of my argument, I stand corrected.
Well at least we agree on one thing.[/quote]
First, Islam is a religion not an ethnic group.
Second, Nazi in the previous discussion was define as : a member of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
While it is true that Nazism is an ideology, it was not the subject of the discussion. [/quote]
National Socialist German Workers’ Party - who formed around a presumed racial heritage.[/quote]
True, but what define them as nazi is the fact that they are member of the nazi party not their presumed racial heritage.
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
No. If a muslim is defined as a member of the islamic religion and you discriminate against them, then you are a racist. It’s just definition. Muslims = an ethnic group; while the nazis are not an ethnic group. [/quote]
What the fuck are you talking about? Are all Muslims Arab now?
Did I miss the memo?
Did someone notify Yusef Islam?[/quote]
???[/quote]
MUSLIMS ARE NOT AN ETHNIC GROUP. THEY MAKE A DECISION (of sorts) TO FOLLOW ISLAM. YOUR ETHNIC GROUP IS NOT DECIDED BY YOU.
I AM TYPING THIS VERY SLOWLY SO YOU CAN CATCH UP.