[quote]joebassin wrote:
That’s just beyond stupidity…
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yeah, ya’ll are the crazy ones!!!
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Joeb the ass:
There is nothing wrong with discriminating against a group of people for their beliefs. I discriminate against the KKK, I guess I’m just racist.
Defining it that way make it devoid of any meaning.
You are essentially arguing against making any moral judgments about anything because it’s racist against people who do or believe that thing.
Example: I hate nazis. Well, nazis by your definition are an ethnic group. Hating them is therefore racist.
Or, I hate cake. Now I’m racist against the society of cake eaters.
You’re argument is so dumb, I’m feeling stupid for even stooping to address it.[/quote]
Racism : the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races; discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race
Your are racist if you have discriminatory or abusive behavior not if you hate them.
Hating some people doesn’t mean you will automatically have discriminatory or abusive behavior toward them.
By the way a cake is an object not an ethnic group… And it’s not my argument it’s the definition, I did not invented it. Why don’t you guys just try to find the definition for yourself. Since you seem unable to do so let me once again post this link :
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:ethnic+group&sa=X&ei=vyopTLdZgf3wBvP55YUB&ved=0CBMQkAE
And I will add this one for the pleasure of my friend pushharder (see article 1) :
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Islam is an object, not an ethnic group. It is a set of beliefs, not a people. and yes I discriminate against the groups I mentioned, is that racist?
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you are a desperate case…
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Is it racist to discriminate against nazis?
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Joeb the ass:
There is nothing wrong with discriminating against a group of people for their beliefs. I discriminate against the KKK, I guess I’m just racist.
Defining it that way make it devoid of any meaning.
You are essentially arguing against making any moral judgments about anything because it’s racist against people who do or believe that thing.
Example: I hate nazis. Well, nazis by your definition are an ethnic group. Hating them is therefore racist.
Or, I hate cake. Now I’m racist against the society of cake eaters.
You’re argument is so dumb, I’m feeling stupid for even stooping to address it.[/quote]
Racism : the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races; discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race
Your are racist if you have discriminatory or abusive behavior not if you hate them.
Hating some people doesn’t mean you will automatically have discriminatory or abusive behavior toward them.
By the way a cake is an object not an ethnic group… And it’s not my argument it’s the definition, I did not invented it. Why don’t you guys just try to find the definition for yourself. Since you seem unable to do so let me once again post this link :
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:ethnic+group&sa=X&ei=vyopTLdZgf3wBvP55YUB&ved=0CBMQkAE
And I will add this one for the pleasure of my friend pushharder (see article 1) :
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Islam is an object, not an ethnic group. It is a set of beliefs, not a people. and yes I discriminate against the groups I mentioned, is that racist?
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you are a desperate case…
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Is it racist to discriminate against nazis?[/quote]
If you define a nazi as a member of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party then no. But that doesn’t make it right to discriminate against someone because he is a member of a political party.
Christianity: One woman’s lie about having an affair that got seriously out of hand.
^ very offensive and rude, but you have the right to your own opinions however sad and juvenile they may be
Notice how we Christians don’t call for you to be beheaded or stoned for mocking our faith . . . .
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
Notice how we Christians don’t call for you to be beheaded or stoned for mocking our faith . . . .[/quote]
Quite the contrary. Now I have yet another name to add to my seemingly ever expanding T-Nation prayer list.
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
Notice how we Christians don’t call for you to be beheaded or stoned for mocking our faith . . . .[/quote]
well i’m sure you will find this one funny.
ISLAM is an acronym for International Society of Liars And Murderers. It is pronounced “I slam,” as in “I slam planes into buildings.”
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
Notice how we Christians don’t call for you to be beheaded or stoned for mocking our faith . . . .[/quote]
well i’m sure you will find this one funny.
ISLAM is an acronym for International Society of Liars And Murderers. It is pronounced “I slam,” as in “I slam planes into buildings.”
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Islam
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I don’t find anything having to do with Islam and it’s incurable propensity for death funny.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
Notice how we Christians don’t call for you to be beheaded or stoned for mocking our faith . . . .[/quote]
well i’m sure you will find this one funny.
ISLAM is an acronym for International Society of Liars And Murderers. It is pronounced “I slam,” as in “I slam planes into buildings.”
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Islam
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I don’t find anything having to do with Islam and it’s incurable propensity for death funny.[/quote]
But it’s the religion of peace :
Islam is often known as the “religion of Peace.” US President George W. Bush, often called “the honest president,” coined this phrase in a speech to Congress in 2001, just after 19 Muslims crashed four airliners into skyscrapers and the Pentagon. Bush wanted people to know that the imminent US invasion of Afghanistan and, later, Iraq was nothing personal. (The desire that a nation love America, despite its apparent intention to occupy it indefinitely, continues with his successor.)
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Joeb the ass:
There is nothing wrong with discriminating against a group of people for their beliefs. I discriminate against the KKK, I guess I’m just racist.
Defining it that way make it devoid of any meaning.
You are essentially arguing against making any moral judgments about anything because it’s racist against people who do or believe that thing.
Example: I hate nazis. Well, nazis by your definition are an ethnic group. Hating them is therefore racist.
Or, I hate cake. Now I’m racist against the society of cake eaters.
You’re argument is so dumb, I’m feeling stupid for even stooping to address it.[/quote]
Racism : the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races; discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race
Your are racist if you have discriminatory or abusive behavior not if you hate them.
Hating some people doesn’t mean you will automatically have discriminatory or abusive behavior toward them.
By the way a cake is an object not an ethnic group… And it’s not my argument it’s the definition, I did not invented it. Why don’t you guys just try to find the definition for yourself. Since you seem unable to do so let me once again post this link :
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:ethnic+group&sa=X&ei=vyopTLdZgf3wBvP55YUB&ved=0CBMQkAE
And I will add this one for the pleasure of my friend pushharder (see article 1) :
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Islam is an object, not an ethnic group. It is a set of beliefs, not a people. and yes I discriminate against the groups I mentioned, is that racist?
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you are a desperate case…
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Is it racist to discriminate against nazis?[/quote]
If you define a nazi as a member of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party then no. But that doesn’t make it right to discriminate against someone because he is a member of a political party. [/quote]
And if muslim is defined as a member of the islamic religion?
Their stances and beliefs can make it right to discriminate against them.
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
Notice how we Christians don’t call for you to be beheaded or stoned for mocking our faith . . . .[/quote]
well i’m sure you will find this one funny.
ISLAM is an acronym for International Society of Liars And Murderers. It is pronounced “I slam,” as in “I slam planes into buildings.”
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Islam
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I don’t find anything having to do with Islam and it’s incurable propensity for death funny.[/quote]
But it’s the religion of peace :
Islam is often known as the “religion of Peace.” US President George W. Bush, often called “the honest president,” coined this phrase in a speech to Congress in 2001, just after 19 Muslims crashed four airliners into skyscrapers and the Pentagon. Bush wanted people to know that the imminent US invasion of Afghanistan and, later, Iraq was nothing personal. (The desire that a nation love America, despite its apparent intention to occupy it indefinitely, continues with his successor.)
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Islam[/quote]
I’m gonna go ahead and assume that a point is simply beyond your powers at this stage in your life and not hold the lack of one against you. Here’s hopin for the future though.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Joeb the ass:
There is nothing wrong with discriminating against a group of people for their beliefs. I discriminate against the KKK, I guess I’m just racist.
Defining it that way make it devoid of any meaning.
You are essentially arguing against making any moral judgments about anything because it’s racist against people who do or believe that thing.
Example: I hate nazis. Well, nazis by your definition are an ethnic group. Hating them is therefore racist.
Or, I hate cake. Now I’m racist against the society of cake eaters.
You’re argument is so dumb, I’m feeling stupid for even stooping to address it.[/quote]
Racism : the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races; discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race
Your are racist if you have discriminatory or abusive behavior not if you hate them.
Hating some people doesn’t mean you will automatically have discriminatory or abusive behavior toward them.
By the way a cake is an object not an ethnic group… And it’s not my argument it’s the definition, I did not invented it. Why don’t you guys just try to find the definition for yourself. Since you seem unable to do so let me once again post this link :
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:ethnic+group&sa=X&ei=vyopTLdZgf3wBvP55YUB&ved=0CBMQkAE
And I will add this one for the pleasure of my friend pushharder (see article 1) :
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Islam is an object, not an ethnic group. It is a set of beliefs, not a people. and yes I discriminate against the groups I mentioned, is that racist?
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you are a desperate case…
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Is it racist to discriminate against nazis?[/quote]
If you define a nazi as a member of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party then no. But that doesn’t make it right to discriminate against someone because he is a member of a political party. [/quote]
And if muslim is defined as a member of the islamic religion?
Their stances and beliefs can make it right to discriminate against them.[/quote]
No. If a muslim is defined as a member of the islamic religion and you discriminate against them, then you are a racist. It’s just definition. Muslims = an ethnic group; while the nazis are not an ethnic group.
The point you are trying to make is (I think) : if some group think or act in a way that I find wrong then it should justify discrimination against them. But I do not agree. Taking the muslims as an example, not all of them think the same or are extremist. Now may be you will tell me : What if they really all think like the dangerous extremist. In this case discrimination will surely not help make the situation better. Trying to put some common sense in their head (not by violence) would be much better. Should we have killed all German soldier after WW2 assuming they were all irrecuperable racist? Off course not.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
But it’s the religion of peace :
Islam is often known as the “religion of Peace.” US President George W. Bush, often called “the honest president,” coined this phrase in a speech to Congress in 2001, just after 19 Muslims crashed four airliners into skyscrapers and the Pentagon. Bush wanted people to know that the imminent US invasion of Afghanistan and, later, Iraq was nothing personal. (The desire that a nation love America, despite its apparent intention to occupy it indefinitely, continues with his successor.)
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Islam
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That looks like THE appropriate website for you, Jose.[/quote]
It’s my new favorite. There is even stuff for you push :
History is a form of propaganda dedicated to ensuring that people continue to hear the messages of two key groups: 1, the Nazis; and 2, the Confederacy.
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/History
how great is that.
[quote]joebassin wrote:
No. If a muslim is defined as a member of the islamic religion and you discriminate against them, then you are a racist. It’s just definition. Muslims = an ethnic group; while the nazis are not an ethnic group.
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Solid troll. 7/10.
But by the United Nations definition the nazis were indeed an ethnic group.
[quote]joebassin wrote:
An ethnic group is a group of people whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage that is real or assumed. This shared heritage may be based upon putative common ancestry, history, kinship, religion, language, shared territory, nationality or physical appearance.
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The nazis were a group of people whose members identified with each other through a common heritage that is real or assumed. They had shared heritage through a combination of one or more of the following: Common Ancestry, History, Kinship, Language, Shared Territory, Nationality, and Physical Appearance.
Checkmate.
[quote]phaethon wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
No. If a muslim is defined as a member of the islamic religion and you discriminate against them, then you are a racist. It’s just definition. Muslims = an ethnic group; while the nazis are not an ethnic group.
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Solid troll. 7/10.
But by the United Nations definition the nazis were indeed an ethnic group.
[quote]joebassin wrote:
An ethnic group is a group of people whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage that is real or assumed. This shared heritage may be based upon putative common ancestry, history, kinship, religion, language, shared territory, nationality or physical appearance.
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The nazis were a group of people whose members identified with each other through a common heritage that is real or assumed. They had shared heritage through a combination of one or more of the following: Common Ancestry, History, Kinship, Language, Shared Territory, Nationality, and Physical Appearance.
Checkmate.[/quote]
Nazi are just member of a political party. Which I don’t think constitute an ethnic group. Are the Democrat an ethnic group or the republican? The nazis identified with each other through being member of a political party called Nazi party. While Muslims identified with each other through a common heritage wich is their religion.
heritage : anything that has been transmitted from the past or handed down by tradition
[quote]joebassin wrote:
<<< Nazi are just member of a political party. Which I don’t think constitute an ethnic group. Are the Democrat an ethnic group or the republican? The nazis identified with each other through being member of a political party called Nazi party. While Muslims identified with each other through a common heritage wich is their religion.
heritage : anything that has been transmitted from the past or handed down by tradition
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You were flirting with coherence there for a second and ya had me goin, but alas it was not to be. Despite being satisfied with your own brilliance, heritage and ethnicity are nonetheless not strictly synonymous. Not that it really matters, but I’m havin fun with you.
what is it with these guys . . . we school one and here comes another even more naive and pointless . . .