FFS get over the fact the some people like to do lat pulldowns. People need to stop following everything that Poliquin says without thinking for themselves. Yes, pullups are a great exercise. So are pulldowns.
I used to do sets of pullups with two 45’s. I am not too weak to do pullups! Lat pulldowns is just something I like to use for variation (plus, the resistance remains consistant which is useful when you’re rapidly gaining/losing mass whether you’re bulking or cutting).
Some guys think they’re so hardcore just because they’ve read a few issues of T-Mag. If other people doing pulldowns pisses you off, perhaps you should find a new hobbie.
Im “fit” enough to do pullups and i sometimes do pulldowns. I get tired of doing pullups and sometimes i wanna sit there while i pull. Whats wrong with that?
Hey back off about Lat pulldowns and being a vegetarian…
I am 5-6 and weighed 235 before comp.
and used to do both chins and lat pulls on back day they both have there place in a FULL training routine and I may as well mention when I trained I did it on a vegetarian diet
So don’t knock something or someone till you’ve walked in their shoes
First, a vegetarian is much different than a vegan.
Second, even if they were the same, an exception doesn’t break a general rule. If you say humans have one head, and then I say there’s one with two heads, does that break the general rule?
Third, what were your reasons for eating vegetarian? Even though it’s much different from veganism, the reason still matters.
I guess I was one of the few who understood what the original poster meant. Of course you’re not going to be pissed at some guy who’s heavy and just starting to lift. But when you see some guy who’s fit and under 200 lbs doing only lat pulldowns, it really makes you wonder.
Mike: Puns are punishable by death around here. . .
In terms of the vegan/vegetarian thing. I do know the difference between the two. I’m not knocking either, what I’m knocking are the hypocrits. If you tell me it’s ethically wrong to eat animals but you wear leather shoes, you deserve to be mocked. If you are a vegetarian because you don’t like the taste that’s all good. If you’re a vegetarian because you worked at a slaughter house for five years (like a friend of mine) removing pig pancreas and just can’t think to eat that. . . that’s good too.
“but there r times when u feel like smashing some one`s head bcoz of there shity attitude., there was this newbee who came to me for tips and all, when i advised him tht he should at least increase protien intake to respectable level of 150gm he fukin strted laughin at me and was in crowd wussing about my diet program.
if i see him in gym again i would fukin smash his head in the squat rack. these kinda guys really piss me off…”
Let me first use the disclaimer that if English is your second language this doesn’t apply. If you are a native English speaker you should be glad the Spelling Police aren’t issued clubs to beat you with. Deciphering the above posting was like playing letter scramble in the Sunday paper.
Here’s a couple of tips. Since it’s obvious you can read and figure out what other people are writing maybe trying to write like the rest of the English speaking population would be good. You know, full words: are instead of r, because instead of bcoz, shit like that. The other tip is a short one, PROOFREAD.
Yeah, I guess those other two reasons are ok. But not liking the taste of any animal food is really weird if you ask me. That’s weirder than if I said I don’t like the taste of any plant products. That would just be weird. It’s just not natural.
The thing about working in the meat industry would be ok, but that would also seem to be weird if they wouldn’t eat eggs, cheese, or drink milk because they butchered animals. I once got a sick feeling (not actually sick) from eating too many of those canned fish things like sardines. I didn’t eat those for years, but that didn’t stop me from enjoying other fish and seafood, let alone eggs and milk.
Careful Chris. You’re dangerously close to the very definition of lifting elitist.
An immediate responsibility of any decent trainer is to introduce clients to basic exercises and proper form, even if such movements don’t necessarily apply at that point in time. But that’s skirting the real issue: nobody’s listening to you! Why not? Because you don’t have a sheet a paper stating you know what the fuck you’re talking about. Until you do, no one’s going to give two shits what leaves your mouth. Including your dad.
And Chris… unless you can break 30 dead-hang pullups or rep for sets of 5 with 120 lbs around your waist, you have no business commenting on my use of the lat pulldown machine.
Well, we all get frustrated sometimes. It’s not a big deal. I’ve been known to want to go on six-state killing sprees because of people who don’t use turn signals. When you drive for a living this becomes an annoyance and a hazard you deal with every day. I fully understand and support road rage. If you’re going 50 in the passing lane on a highway where the speed limit is 65 you deserve to be run off the road and into the nearest tree. More road rage = more people not pissing others off on the road.
I think morons on the road irritate me more than anything else on this planet.
“correction”
If anyone is pissed off that so many countries and cultures think Americans are arrogant and wondering why, just read this bloke’s last two posts.
Khellendros, that pisses me off too. If I were a cop I’d pull over idiots who don’t use their turn signals. I’d also park my ass on the corner of a busy intersection and nail the retard that tries going through a stale yellow light.
What I hate the most is when you’re sitting in the middle of an intersection waiting to turn left and you have to wait for the oncoming cars going straight, so the light turns yellow and you have 2-3 seconds to get your ass through that intersection. Then the oncoming cars go through the yellow light, making you wait longer, then when you can finally go (when its actually red but you have no choice to go) so you go, and some cocksucker driving behind you goes through as well, even though you were the only one in risk of getting plowed. Uggggghhh, that pisses me off so much.
the thing that pisses me off the most is when people care too much about what others are doing. Man, who cares if people are doing lat pulldowns instead of pullups. Not everyone trains to become a professional bodybuilder. And really, unless you have an IFBB frame, who are you to pass judgement onto others and critize their workout routine. I incorporate chins and pulldowns into my vertical back day, does this make me gay? I think that everyone that has agreed that pulldowns are useless should have to post a picture of their back. Then from there the rest of the forum will let you know if your opinion is valid.
Now I feel better
When those who then can determine anything like “All Americans Are Arrogant” from a post by a disgruntled Internet weightlifter are identified, promptly neuter them. They must be the “blokes” that inspire such awful warning illustrations on lawnmowers.
I wonder which “bloke” O’Shea was referring to, I posted twice in this topic and I didn’t see anything arrogant on my end…
In general, I only care about what other people do when it affects me. If I see someone in the gym cheating reps or something, the hell do I care? I have my own workout to complete. But if it’s my squat day and some douche burglar is curling in the rack, that does affect me because I have to wait while someone else misuses the equipment I need to use.
Basically, I just wish people wouldn’t get in my way. Whether they’re driving like idiots or standing still on an escalator (which I’ve become quite vocal about, I flat out tell people to move so I can get by and I am big enough so that they move), I just don’t have time in my life to wait for people to stop being jerkoffs when they cross my path. After all, I make it a point to not be in anyone else’s way, all I ask for is the same courtesy in return.
Sorry about the apparent tone of that post. I should clarify that this is not my opinion. I hear a lot of that sort of thing in boxing circles though. Everyone wants to blame the judges for their lossesor the media for their shitty rankig or lack of pound 4 pound cred. Generalisation is just stupid.
For the record, I found this post pretty damn funny (“I’ll just sit here and do pulldowns because I’m gay”, hahaha, priceless). Everyone saying “lighten up” need to heed their own advice.
