I interpreted Gov. Huckabee’s tweet as sarcasm. Has he held it out as a statement of fact?
Oh I’m fairly sure it was. But in true Trump fashion he spouts ‘sarcasm’ sprinkled in with things that are true. I’m not really sure where the draw the line with him.
Although whether or not it’s sarcasm doesn’t have much of an impact irt showing his regular public truth telling.
The fact that you have no regard or even possible disdain for religion or religious people hardly makes you objective and the fact that you wouldn’t consider the differences between the two cases proves you’re hardly objective on the matter.
No to mention the fact that you have expressed in the past that you don’t even believe in objectivity.
If you drill down even further, you would know that said baker did do business with the individuals in the past with no issue. She merely would not create something custom that she did not agree with.
Contrary to the restaurant who threw out somebody, who was not doing or asking for anything special, simply because she was associated with someone they did not like.
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You mean you’re not like Grubhub? Who’s CEO tacitly threaten people’s jobs if the expressed they voted for Trump?
So your ok with discrimination against a person because of a job they hold or political affiliation?
When you employ assitents and workers, do your descriminate based on their political affiliation or whether or not they like Trump?
I hope not because that’s illegal even in right-to-work states.
Again, she’s not being ‘discriminated against’ because of her job or her political affiliation; she’s being shunned because of her behavior, which the shun-ner finds reprehensible. And yeah, I’m totally OK with that. (I’d wager you are too in cases in which you share the shunner’s sense of moral outrage.)
No. But you can rest assured I wouldn’t hire Sanders.
It has nothing to do with regard for religious people. I just don’t elevate their religion to a higher importance like you do.
I have expressed in the past that most human interactions are subjective when referencing the parties involved.
You can keep talking about the custom aspect like it matters here, but it’ll keep being wasted words. Let’s agree to disagree on this one.
Seems she was ejected because she is publicly forced to lie on behalf of the president from time to time. It means she’s doing her job, but it also means she’s a public liar.
Indulge me here for a minute please. Let’s pretend an ideal candidate for whatever job you’re hiring holds the same policy views as Sanders.
Would you decline to hire that person if their policy views were known to you?
Spicing things up a bit, would you decline to hire that person if the alternative meant hiring someone much less qualified, but aligned with your views on policy?
Again, it has nothing to do with her politics, views, etc. It has to do with her behavior.
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So? For the most part, let people make decisions about who they wish to provide services to. This, and certain other news making instances of refusal hardly deserve the attention they receive. Someone else will serve her.
What behavior? She’s the press secretary.
Sorry, I am calling bullshit. You don’t like her so you are excusing this restaurant’s behavior.
You know damn well it’s wrong. It’s discrimination like any other discrimination. She did nothing to those people save for politely leave. Rediculous.
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So was Baghdad Bob.
You’ll note I haven’t offered an opinion regarding whether the restauranteur’s behavior was appropriate. All I have done is point out–correctly–that her behavior was directed at Sanders specifically, not her ‘tribe’ generally.
Consider: You own a restaurant. OJ Simpson + party come in. Would you serve him, or would you ‘discriminate’ against him on account of his behavior and ask him to leave?
I feel like this summarizes the basic misunderstanding here.
It’s not about what one “believes” or what “tribe” they associate with. It’s about how one behaves and being held accountable for the actions they choose to do.
The restaurant was choosing to hold Sarah Huckabee Sanders accountable for her behavior. They were not discriminating based on her views, her religion, her sexual orientation, etc…
Again, this is not at all how I see the issue. (But I also wanted to point out that the restaurant of course “creates” something for each customer. Ordering “pizza with extra bacon” or “a club sandwich with no tomatoes” requires the chefs to create an entree to those specifications, much like a baker making a chocolate cake with vanilla frosting. I don’t see how this keeps being brought up as if it’s a valid difference).
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I’d hide all of the sharp stuff first and foremost.
Especially if Ray Lewis and Aaron Hernandez are part of the group.
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If Aaron Hernandez was part of the group…I think I would serve them just about anything they asked for… before he went all “Hell Boy/Prince of Darkness” on me and my staff…!
While he does fall into the set of homicidal football players, in hindsight I can see why his inclusion looks silly.
Not silly…but scary…!
So you believe bakers should bake gay wedding cakes?
According to Pat’s logic, a restaurant making something for a customer is not something custom or special intended for a particular person. Because, apparently, people don’t sit down and order something specific and instead a waiter just brings that person whatever he can find in the kitchen. However, a baker who bakes wedding cakes being asked to bake a wedding cake is creating something special and custom for a particular person.
Now, someone might try and be clever and say that a restaurant has a menu so ordering something off it is not asking the restaurant to do anything special but, even fast food places will prepare things a certain way that is different from how they normally prepare it if a customer requests it. In fact, a baker is in the business of creating “custom” items so asking for that from a baker is not asking anything special.
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Pat, absolutely correct, there is a diiference. A generic cake/hamburger vs a specific message (Wedding cake/Trump Rules condiments). If not, a generic cake would have solved the previous controversy.
Nonetheless, let us support the privilege to refuse service.