Sleep Apnea

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]doogie wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Has the weight loss helped any?[/quote]

Hugely. I still can’t sleep on my back, but I can sleep on my side fairly well now without the gasping.[/quote]

Tested it?

Because if you wake up from it it probably is already very, very bad.

It could just be very bad right now. [/quote]

Yeah, I’ve had two sleep studies done. Before my wife and I split, she’d smack me and tell me to put the mask on most nights after I fell asleep without it, but I would often wake up on my own also. I can’t remember how many times an hour I was having episodes, but it was enough to freak me out and explain why I was so tired all of the time.

I started using the ZQuiet mouthpiece ten days ago. My wife got it for me after watching a commercial. I was hugely skeptical and did not wear it the first night. However, after waking up yet again in a cold sweat in the middle of the night, tired and hurting, I tried it the very next night.

Result:
95% less snoring according to my wife. She nudges me once now, instead of a dozen times.
No more night sweats.
Wake up to piss only, not because I am hurting all over.

I am not magically more rested but I do now sleep 5-6 hours uninterrupted.

I still have to find a way to sleep on my side because the mouthpiece tends to shift when I am on my back so I put a few pillows around me (before sleeping on my side made no difference really).

I thought it was a gimmick but it works.
$9.95 to try for ten days.
If works they charge you $59 later.

Worth a shot. Hope this helped…Again, I thought it was a huge gimmick and total bull but I just came back from a vacation and my wife barely had to slap, kick, scratch or elbow me :slight_smile:

All the best,

Marc

[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
I started using the ZQuiet mouthpiece ten days ago. My wife got it for me after watching a commercial. I was hugely skeptical and did not wear it the first night. However, after waking up yet again in a cold sweat in the middle of the night, tired and hurting, I tried it the very next night.

Result:
95% less snoring according to my wife. She nudges me once now, instead of a dozen times.
No more night sweats.
Wake up to piss only, not because I am hurting all over.

I am not magically more rested but I do now sleep 5-6 hours uninterrupted.

I still have to find a way to sleep on my side because the mouthpiece tends to shift when I am on my back so I put a few pillows around me (before sleeping on my side made no difference really).

I thought it was a gimmick but it works.
$9.95 to try for ten days.
If works they charge you $59 later.

Worth a shot. Hope this helped…Again, I thought it was a huge gimmick and total bull but I just came back from a vacation and my wife barely had to slap, kick, scratch or elbow me :slight_smile:

All the best,

Marc [/quote]

Wow, that’s huge information. Thanks.

I used my auto CPAP for the first time last night. I got up at my usual time of 5:30; I can’t remember ever waking up feeling this refreshed.

I wish I had this taken care of years ago.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

I am, however, on pretty much a permanent cycle of low-dose test (think really aggressive t-replacement), which I understand can cause sleep apnea.

On-line research indicates that DHEA might be useful, especially if on T, as people on T consume a fair amount of DHEA and DHEA is necessary to keep the nerves functioning.

Also, mouth guards seem an accepted solution short of the Darth Vader mask, but it’s hard to tell the crap from the legit ones.[/quote]

Here’s a mouthpiece that is about 70%-85% effective. This helps for sleeping on your back especially. https://puresleep.com/s30/homepage.php

Adjust the mouthpiece as far forward as it will go to bring your lower jaw forward. Your lower jaw is most likely sliding back as soon as you lose consciousness each night blocking airway until you awaken.

Melatonin may aid in keeping you from somewhat completely awakening and coming out of REM sleep which is what your aim is. If I can dream even for a short while I feel more rested. Start out biting melatonin in half or quarter as many people have bizarre nightmares/night terrors for some reason when first starting on it. So give your body a chance to acclimate to it.

Melatonin is nature’s anti-stress hormone because it counters the effects of high cortisol. It is also considered by many scientists to be one of the best anti-oxidants known and readily crosses all membrane barriers.

That tired feeling will catch up to you as you age. It’s a curse, and takes everything you have not to give up. Wait till memory loss, decreased cognitive function and increased sugar craving kick in. But weight lifting and T-Nation reads will push you out of most of that.

Happy lifting and don’t play with blasting caps.

CPAP is 95% effective for those that can tolerate it…however, only roughly half of people reportedly can. It truly is the only proven time and time again answer for this disease - although, there are plenty of anecdotal reports that certain mouthpieces help for minor cases. Uvulectomys (spelling?) also have been known to work, but it is pretty invasive and many Doctors won’t commit to it unless CPAP isn’t tolerated. Additionally, as far as I know, most insurance companies won’t pay for any procedures other than CPAP unless you prove to be intolerant to CPAP.

Good news is, there could be a whole host of companies with longer term, more aesthetically acceptable, solutions to this problem. Look into hypoglossal nerve stimulation, which is going through FDA approval as we speak. It is essentially a pacemaker that they put near your clavicle that will offer a permanent solution, without a mask or any visible treatment.

CPAP masks have come a long ways though, they aren’t as clunky as they once were. Look at buying from ResMed who has come up with many smaller designs…

[quote]Houston07 wrote:
CPAP is 95% effective for those that can tolerate it…however, only roughly half of people reportedly can. It truly is the only proven time and time again answer for this disease - although, there are plenty of anecdotal reports that certain mouthpieces help for minor cases. Uvulectomys (spelling?) also have been known to work, but it is pretty invasive and many Doctors won’t commit to it unless CPAP isn’t tolerated. Additionally, as far as I know, most insurance companies won’t pay for any procedures other than CPAP unless you prove to be intolerant to CPAP.

Good news is, there could be a whole host of companies with longer term, more aesthetically acceptable, solutions to this problem. Look into hypoglossal nerve stimulation, which is going through FDA approval as we speak. It is essentially a pacemaker that they put near your clavicle that will offer a permanent solution, without a mask or any visible treatment.

CPAP masks have come a long ways though, they aren’t as clunky as they once were. Look at buying from ResMed who has come up with many smaller designs…

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The hypoglossal nerve stimulation looks promising. Thanks for the mention of that.

Using C-PAP like most things that are not easy in life is a mental choice that you make up your mind and stick to. The alternative if one truly has severe sleep apnea is waiting for tiredness to destroy your will.

Don’t be like the fella above who let tiredness & fatigue interfere with his bodybuilding dreams.

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