Slacker Co-Workers

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[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]cavemansam wrote:
where i work bosses find it easier to push some people harder and barely bother slackers
the hard workers make up for the slackers
evens out in the end[/quote]

Other than that, how is communism working for ya?[/quote]

Why work hard if it makes no difference? You sound like a sucker OP …[/quote]
Not sure if you’re serious, based on your history I don’t think you are.

But, if necessary i will adapt and slack, myself. It’s just such a gross feeling…a feeling of complacency, lack of ambition, socialism. I want to cut these things heads off, I don’t want to perpetuate it. This is why i would consider saying/doing something about this guy, but I won’t.
[/quote]

It’s good you are taking in what was said here. I like to stay away from bashing people, so I do’t mean that with what I say here. The more you post, the more you show yourself as a flaming busybody, snitch, and do-gooder. I’ve had experiences with such types myself, and in all cases I was actually doing my job and their actions were dismissed by managers because I was minding my business and doing my job. I’ve also had things said about me that were completely made up! The same has happened to one my hard working nurse friends. But we work in healthcare with mostly women, so we understand these shenanigans come with the territory. Grown men with normal hormone levels abhor snitches. Someone would really have to be directly screwing me over or push me to the bring for me to inform on him. I that case it wouldn’t be snitching.

You’re a smart and hard working guy. Unless someone’s incompetence is ruining your work, I would stay away from such drama.

Although part of me dislikes slackers, I also feel that one can in some cases not blame workers for engaging in non-work related activities on the job, as wrong as they might be. Much of modern work is painfully idle and sedentary and people have to put up with a lot of garbage just to get through the damn day. Many conclude that the world is not one giant meritocracy and that they might as well just screw around and get by. I’m not saying these people are justified, but much of their behavior is not surprising. [/quote]

I think you are giving good reasonable advice. however, this place IS NOT idle. There is TOO MUCH that needs to be done. I worked at an idle place, I know what it can be like.

It’s like you go to school to become an engineer to solve problems, then you are hired at a place with infinity problems and all you do is sit there and cruise Facebook and reddit, I despise this behavior.

The only way this guys slacking affects me is when I notice it and I feel the need to slam his face into his keyboard and I can’t focus on my own work.

But again, I’m taking the advice, I’m not saying anything or doing anything about it.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]aeyogi wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You damn kids; get off my lawn![/quote]

It seems your caregiver forgot your Metamucil last night grandpa.[/quote]

I lol’ed.

I see what you’re saying but try and see it from my perspective. I’ve been doing what I’ve been doing it, from where I’ve been doing it for a decade now. I know when and where I can slack and when and where I need to crank it.

Unknown you to whipper snappers is this whole idea of quality of life. Work life balance isn’t just about having less hours on the job for more pay, it’s about managing your life while working too. It isn’t about being miserable at work and having a killer life outside of it, it’s about having a killer life 24/7.

If I can manage my distractions and get the same amount of work done in 2000 billable hours as someone who will call me a slacker does in 2200-2400 billable hours, who’s better off? Me. Who does the company like more? Neither, we both get our shit done, and the company wants to hear zero bitching from one about the other.

A lot of Op’s complaints come down to perspective. It’s hard to trust his when he’s been doing it for such a relatively short amount of time. [/quote]

You’re an accountant…isn’t it assumed that for like half of every month you don’t have shit to do? How much experience do you have being an engineer or working at a machine shop? I’ll wait here for your answer.

So, in your eyes, how much (incidental) experience does one need before they qualify to make statements?
What about their attitude?
Personality?
Education?

You can have 15yrs experience, but I won’t take a breath of advice from you. You’re an accountant, and I don’t take advice from accountant-snappers

and what the fuck is this bullshit:
“…it’s about managing your life while working too. It isn’t about being miserable at work and having a killer life outside of it, it’s about having a killer life 24/7…”

what the fuck are you talking about “managing your life”? Who said I was miserable? Part of having a killer life 24/7 is taking pride in the shit you accomplish at work, not how many fucking memes you saw on Facebook while at work.

oh, and by the way beans…with all of your awesome “Experience” that you have, I’m sure you have a few accomplishments…right? Or am I mistaken?

Please go ahead and list a few for the young whipper snappers out there…

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[quote]tsantos wrote:
ITT: Proof wisdom is gained by experience.

OP, I work with my team and I am pretty across how they go. I have zero idea about how others outside that group are using their time.

My question is how engaged with your work are you and how focussed are you when this is capturing your attention and taking up your energy?

If you came to me with this, I’d say this issue is between that employee and his supervisor, I’d give you the above questions and if it didn’t stop, I’d look for a new team for you.

You can preach about how important standards are but soon your resume will have a bunch of employers in a short time and you’ll have the unemployable stench to you. Your ego may have helped you in the short term but it will hurt you in the long run.[/quote]

standards? What?

How many employers are on my resume? How long have I been in the field? Jeeez, I feel like I am only getting to know myself through reading your posts.

How is my ego going to hurt me in the long run? Genuine concern for the company as a whole isn’t appreciated, especially when the manager is a well-known air-head?

Understand that I work at a company of 160 people…it’s a machine shop i.e. manufacturing. So some of the principles that apply at places that you have worked, may not apply here.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]aeyogi wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You damn kids; get off my lawn![/quote]

It seems your caregiver forgot your Metamucil last night grandpa.[/quote]

I lol’ed.

I see what you’re saying but try and see it from my perspective. I’ve been doing what I’ve been doing it, from where I’ve been doing it for a decade now. I know when and where I can slack and when and where I need to crank it.

Unknown you to whipper snappers is this whole idea of quality of life. Work life balance isn’t just about having less hours on the job for more pay, it’s about managing your life while working too. It isn’t about being miserable at work and having a killer life outside of it, it’s about having a killer life 24/7.

If I can manage my distractions and get the same amount of work done in 2000 billable hours as someone who will call me a slacker does in 2200-2400 billable hours, who’s better off? Me. Who does the company like more? Neither, we both get our shit done, and the company wants to hear zero bitching from one about the other.

A lot of Op’s complaints come down to perspective. It’s hard to trust his when he’s been doing it for such a relatively short amount of time. [/quote]

You’re an accountant…isn’t it assumed that for like half of every month you don’t have shit to do? How much experience do you have being an engineer or working at a machine shop? I’ll wait here for your answer.

So, in your eyes, how much (incidental) experience does one need before they qualify to make statements?
What about their attitude?
Personality?
Education?

You can have 15yrs experience, but I won’t take a breath of advice from you. You’re an accountant, and I don’t take advice from accountant-snappers

and what the fuck is this bullshit:
“…it’s about managing your life while working too. It isn’t about being miserable at work and having a killer life outside of it, it’s about having a killer life 24/7…”

what the fuck are you talking about “managing your life”? Who said I was miserable? Part of having a killer life 24/7 is taking pride in the shit you accomplish at work, not how many fucking memes you saw on Facebook while at work.

oh, and by the way beans…with all of your awesome “Experience” that you have, I’m sure you have a few accomplishments…right? Or am I mistaken?

Please go ahead and list a few for the young whipper snappers out there…[/quote]

I’m curious what your intent was by starting this thread? You seem to have it all figured out based on your defensive responses. If you didn’t want advice, why ask for it? It seems that you really just wanted somewhere to bitch about some dude you work with. Why are you so worried about this apparent “slacker” that you felt it warranted a thread? Couldn’t this have been posted in the “Grind My Gears” thread?

And another thing, if you’re so damn busy at work, how the can you possibly know what this dude is doing all day? You might catch a glimpse at what he’s doing every once in a while to the point where you know what he’s doing for, like, five minutes out of the day. How can you possibly make any kind of judgement on his work ethic based on that? I’m questioning YOUR work ethic if you’re so wrapped up with this dude’s habits that it got you twisted enough to vent on a public forum full of dude’s who lift weights.

And another thing, you’re really sensitive ain’cha. I mean, look at this response to beansie, and a few of your other responses. If you can’t take criticism when you’re asking for advice over an ambiguous situation at work (which we only have ONE side of the story), then I don’t think the internet is the right place for you. Seriously, why are you getting so defensive?

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[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]aeyogi wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You damn kids; get off my lawn![/quote]

It seems your caregiver forgot your Metamucil last night grandpa.[/quote]

I lol’ed.

I see what you’re saying but try and see it from my perspective. I’ve been doing what I’ve been doing it, from where I’ve been doing it for a decade now. I know when and where I can slack and when and where I need to crank it.

Unknown you to whipper snappers is this whole idea of quality of life. Work life balance isn’t just about having less hours on the job for more pay, it’s about managing your life while working too. It isn’t about being miserable at work and having a killer life outside of it, it’s about having a killer life 24/7.

If I can manage my distractions and get the same amount of work done in 2000 billable hours as someone who will call me a slacker does in 2200-2400 billable hours, who’s better off? Me. Who does the company like more? Neither, we both get our shit done, and the company wants to hear zero bitching from one about the other.

A lot of Op’s complaints come down to perspective. It’s hard to trust his when he’s been doing it for such a relatively short amount of time. [/quote]

You’re an accountant…isn’t it assumed that for like half of every month you don’t have shit to do? How much experience do you have being an engineer or working at a machine shop? I’ll wait here for your answer.

So, in your eyes, how much (incidental) experience does one need before they qualify to make statements?
What about their attitude?
Personality?
Education?

You can have 15yrs experience, but I won’t take a breath of advice from you. You’re an accountant, and I don’t take advice from accountant-snappers

and what the fuck is this bullshit:
“…it’s about managing your life while working too. It isn’t about being miserable at work and having a killer life outside of it, it’s about having a killer life 24/7…”

what the fuck are you talking about “managing your life”? Who said I was miserable? Part of having a killer life 24/7 is taking pride in the shit you accomplish at work, not how many fucking memes you saw on Facebook while at work.

oh, and by the way beans…with all of your awesome “Experience” that you have, I’m sure you have a few accomplishments…right? Or am I mistaken?

Please go ahead and list a few for the young whipper snappers out there…[/quote]

I’m curious what your intent was by starting this thread? You seem to have it all figured out based on your defensive responses. If you didn’t want advice, why ask for it? It seems that you really just wanted somewhere to bitch about some dude you work with. Why are you so worried about this apparent “slacker” that you felt it warranted a thread? Couldn’t this have been posted in the “Grind My Gears” thread?

And another thing, if you’re so damn busy at work, how the can you possibly know what this dude is doing all day? You might catch a glimpse at what he’s doing every once in a while to the point where you know what he’s doing for, like, five minutes out of the day. How can you possibly make any kind of judgement on his work ethic based on that? I’m questioning YOUR work ethic if you’re so wrapped up with this dude’s habits that it got you twisted enough to vent on a public forum full of dude’s who lift weights.

And another thing, you’re really sensitive ain’cha. I mean, look at this response to beansie, and a few of your other responses. If you can’t take criticism when you’re asking for advice over an ambiguous situation at work (which we only have ONE side of the story), then I don’t think the internet is the right place for you. Seriously, why are you getting so defensive?[/quote]
oh boy where do I begin, how many posts in this thread did you read?

My intent: To see if I should/could do anything about my slacker co-worker, sorry if I didn’t make that clear (in the posts that you happened to read).

Advice given: I stated several times (maybe not in the posts you read) that I would be taking some advice given here. Yes, this was partially for me to vent and it could have gone in the grind my gears thread, had it not been for my question (see “intent”).

Me being a busybody: I mentioned, recently (maybe not in the posts you read) that my eyes are naturally aligned with both of this guys monitors when I walk in the office, so it’s somewhat unavoidable. That, and I sit 24" to his side, so if I notice silence for an abnormal amount of time I turn and look in his direction (out of genuine concern, maybe he stopped breathing). I think i did already mention (maybe not in one of the posts you read) that I could be way off about how much time he wastes doing nothing. I will add this, I notice that he sometimes scrambles and gets back to work when I come in the office, that is flattering. And another thing, based on some of the responses here, I am questioning the percentage of GAL posters that actually lift.

And another thing, yea I am a sensitive guy. But my energy spent on this subject is more due to my passion for working hard. It’s also due to my frustration at my previous employer who would let me contribute in any way, thats where this guy belongs. My current employer is begging for help from us, to not step up and contribute in a motivated, enthusiastic way is puzzling to me. THIS is why I am responding the way I am. Cause It is a deep subject for me. Think about it, all you proud slackers out there would starve in prehistoric times. In a tough economy, no company has any extra money to piss away on shitty employees.

One more thing, I am taking advice on the question asked, I’m not here for a personality adjustment. You guys don’t know the full story about where I work, so stick to the questions that I’m asking.

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Carb, I work in a custom fab/machine shop that is very small~ me, the owner, his son and one part time engineering student. Even at that size and with deadlines out the wazoo~ they tell me to calm the fuck down sometimes.
Do you think that might apply to you? Wearing the weight of the whole company on your shoulders can make you nuts.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

The only way this guys slacking affects me is when I notice it and I feel the need to slam his face into his keyboard and I can’t focus on my own work. [/quote]

I think you should take more notice of your paycheck dude. :slight_smile:

You’re better than this.

How old are you, by the way?

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[quote]CLUNK wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:
… There are two kinds of people in this world: those who sign the front of the check, and those who sign the back of the check. You sign the back. [/quote]

This is good, Brick!

I may steal this line. :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Feel free. I stole it from someone. :slight_smile:

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:
You can have 15yrs experience, but I won’t take a breath of advice from you. You’re an accountant, and I don’t take advice from accountant-snappers
…
oh, and by the way beans…with all of your awesome “Experience” that you have, I’m sure you have a few accomplishments…right? Or am I mistaken?
[/quote]

LOL. Because accountants can’t possible have any accomplishments?

Comparing accomplishments between different jobs, never mind different fields, is just plain silly. I work in medical research; I have published a bunch of papers. Now compare me to one of the nurses that work in our emergency room or in the cardiac ICU; they have no real public “accomplishment” by your standard, I guess. Which of us is more accomplished? Me, because I’ve published some stuff that’s maybe kinda sorta helping to move this field forward and improve patient care, or the nurse that’s seen hundreds of patients through the toughest time of their lives and gotten people out of the hospital alive? I just do my research and hope that it saves people’s lives down the line; the nurse actually is saving people’s lives directly, every day. I couldn’t do their job in a million years. Are they not accomplished enough for you?

“Accomplishments” are hard to pin down. They’re almost meaningless outside of your own field. I don’t know how to evaluate whether an engineer, or a banker, or an attorney, or pretty much anything outside of my own field is “accomplished” - and you don’t either.

I don’t know much about your average friendly neighborhood accountant, but painting with a broad brush that beans can’t possibly know anything about any other workplace because he’s an accountant is one of the stranger arguments I’ve seen.

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[quote]ActivitiesGuy wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
You can have 15yrs experience, but I won’t take a breath of advice from you. You’re an accountant, and I don’t take advice from accountant-snappers
…
oh, and by the way beans…with all of your awesome “Experience” that you have, I’m sure you have a few accomplishments…right? Or am I mistaken?
[/quote]

LOL. Because accountants can’t possible have any accomplishments?

Comparing accomplishments between different jobs, never mind different fields, is just plain silly. I work in medical research; I have published a bunch of papers. Now compare me to one of the nurses that work in our emergency room or in the cardiac ICU; they have no real public “accomplishment” by your standard, I guess. Which of us is more accomplished? Me, because I’ve published some stuff that’s maybe kinda sorta helping to move this field forward and improve patient care, or the nurse that’s seen hundreds of patients through the toughest time of their lives and gotten people out of the hospital alive? I just do my research and hope that it saves people’s lives down the line; the nurse actually is saving people’s lives directly, every day. I couldn’t do their job in a million years. Are they not accomplished enough for you?

“Accomplishments” are hard to pin down. They’re almost meaningless outside of your own field. I don’t know how to evaluate whether an engineer, or a banker, or an attorney, or pretty much anything outside of my own field is “accomplished” - and you don’t either.

I don’t know much about your average friendly neighborhood accountant, but painting with a broad brush that beans can’t possibly know anything about any other workplace because he’s an accountant is one of the stranger arguments I’ve seen.[/quote]
An experienced cpa is one of the few whose advice would be considered extremely valuable by anyone running a company.

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[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]ActivitiesGuy wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
You can have 15yrs experience, but I won’t take a breath of advice from you. You’re an accountant, and I don’t take advice from accountant-snappers
…
oh, and by the way beans…with all of your awesome “Experience” that you have, I’m sure you have a few accomplishments…right? Or am I mistaken?
[/quote]

LOL. Because accountants can’t possible have any accomplishments?

Comparing accomplishments between different jobs, never mind different fields, is just plain silly. I work in medical research; I have published a bunch of papers. Now compare me to one of the nurses that work in our emergency room or in the cardiac ICU; they have no real public “accomplishment” by your standard, I guess. Which of us is more accomplished? Me, because I’ve published some stuff that’s maybe kinda sorta helping to move this field forward and improve patient care, or the nurse that’s seen hundreds of patients through the toughest time of their lives and gotten people out of the hospital alive? I just do my research and hope that it saves people’s lives down the line; the nurse actually is saving people’s lives directly, every day. I couldn’t do their job in a million years. Are they not accomplished enough for you?

“Accomplishments” are hard to pin down. They’re almost meaningless outside of your own field. I don’t know how to evaluate whether an engineer, or a banker, or an attorney, or pretty much anything outside of my own field is “accomplished” - and you don’t either.

I don’t know much about your average friendly neighborhood accountant, but painting with a broad brush that beans can’t possibly know anything about any other workplace because he’s an accountant is one of the stranger arguments I’ve seen.[/quote]
An experienced cpa is one of the few whose advice would be considered extremely valuable by anyone running a company. [/quote]

Then again, it sounds like carbidius is one of those guys who only conjugates with lions. So when he gets fed up with this job and leaves to start his own company with his own brand of I’m Fucking Special knowledge, he definitely won’t be seeking the advice of any accountants.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:
You can take your INCIDENTAL experience and shove it straight up your urethra. I was raised …

I just think that some of you can’t fathom someone like me (balls to the wall, pedal to the metal) exists.

I’m not concerned with office drama, asshole,

And let me just reiterate, [/quote]

Sure sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself of all this bullshit, because not a single one of us that has actually been around the block a couple of times even remotely believes any of your fair tales at this point homie.

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
You’re an accountant…isn’t it assumed that for like half of every month you don’t have shit to do? [/quote]

Hey look, you’re assuming, and making an ass of yourself… What’s the old cliche?

Being one? None. Doing bean counting for and advising ownership? haha. God this is hilarious.

[quote]So, in your eyes, how much (incidental) experience does one need before they qualify to make statements?
What about their attitude?
Personality?
Education?[/quote]

The problem sport is you’re making judgements, and likely from a position of ignorance.

That’s funny, because the people who sign you paycheck do.

lmao

It’s not surprising you’re confused.

Every single one of your posts in this thread and your ridiculous need to try and convince a bunch of internet people you are truly badass worker man.

because those things are mutually exclusive?

Lmao, jesus kid.

[quote]oh, and by the way beans…with all of your awesome “Experience” that you have, I’m sure you have a few accomplishments…right? Or am I mistaken?

Please go ahead and list a few for the young whipper snappers out there…[/quote]

lol. You just don’t get it.

You sound like the most insecure pussy on Earth in this thread. Who is projecting some false sense of heightened self worth as if you aren’t instantly replaceable, and likely by the kid you want to snitch on.

I feel bad for anyone that took the time out of their life to take this thread serious.

Jesus Christ. Like you’re the lost diamond in the rough, and the only one who works hard… Just lmao.

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[quote]ActivitiesGuy wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]ActivitiesGuy wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
You can have 15yrs experience, but I won’t take a breath of advice from you. You’re an accountant, and I don’t take advice from accountant-snappers
…
oh, and by the way beans…with all of your awesome “Experience” that you have, I’m sure you have a few accomplishments…right? Or am I mistaken?
[/quote]

LOL. Because accountants can’t possible have any accomplishments?

Comparing accomplishments between different jobs, never mind different fields, is just plain silly. I work in medical research; I have published a bunch of papers. Now compare me to one of the nurses that work in our emergency room or in the cardiac ICU; they have no real public “accomplishment” by your standard, I guess. Which of us is more accomplished? Me, because I’ve published some stuff that’s maybe kinda sorta helping to move this field forward and improve patient care, or the nurse that’s seen hundreds of patients through the toughest time of their lives and gotten people out of the hospital alive? I just do my research and hope that it saves people’s lives down the line; the nurse actually is saving people’s lives directly, every day. I couldn’t do their job in a million years. Are they not accomplished enough for you?

“Accomplishments” are hard to pin down. They’re almost meaningless outside of your own field. I don’t know how to evaluate whether an engineer, or a banker, or an attorney, or pretty much anything outside of my own field is “accomplished” - and you don’t either.

I don’t know much about your average friendly neighborhood accountant, but painting with a broad brush that beans can’t possibly know anything about any other workplace because he’s an accountant is one of the stranger arguments I’ve seen.[/quote]
An experienced cpa is one of the few whose advice would be considered extremely valuable by anyone running a company. [/quote]

Then again, it sounds like carbidius is one of those guys who only conjugates with lions. So when he gets fed up with this job and leaves to start his own company with his own brand of I’m Fucking Special knowledge, he definitely won’t be seeking the advice of any accountants.[/quote]
Haha!

Well, he’ got the drive but lacks the experience that’s all.

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[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]ActivitiesGuy wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
You can have 15yrs experience, but I won’t take a breath of advice from you. You’re an accountant, and I don’t take advice from accountant-snappers
…
oh, and by the way beans…with all of your awesome “Experience” that you have, I’m sure you have a few accomplishments…right? Or am I mistaken?
[/quote]

LOL. Because accountants can’t possible have any accomplishments?

Comparing accomplishments between different jobs, never mind different fields, is just plain silly. I work in medical research; I have published a bunch of papers. Now compare me to one of the nurses that work in our emergency room or in the cardiac ICU; they have no real public “accomplishment” by your standard, I guess. Which of us is more accomplished? Me, because I’ve published some stuff that’s maybe kinda sorta helping to move this field forward and improve patient care, or the nurse that’s seen hundreds of patients through the toughest time of their lives and gotten people out of the hospital alive? I just do my research and hope that it saves people’s lives down the line; the nurse actually is saving people’s lives directly, every day. I couldn’t do their job in a million years. Are they not accomplished enough for you?

“Accomplishments” are hard to pin down. They’re almost meaningless outside of your own field. I don’t know how to evaluate whether an engineer, or a banker, or an attorney, or pretty much anything outside of my own field is “accomplished” - and you don’t either.

I don’t know much about your average friendly neighborhood accountant, but painting with a broad brush that beans can’t possibly know anything about any other workplace because he’s an accountant is one of the stranger arguments I’ve seen.[/quote]
An experienced cpa is one of the few whose advice would be considered extremely valuable by anyone running a company. [/quote]

Thank you, lol. I knew the people who’ve actually had their ass on the line would get it.

Either way, I’m pretty sure the men and women to collect our garbage and bring it to the dumb are more accomplished than any one of us in this thread. Imagine how shitty it would be to live in a world with no one to collect the rubbish? NYC would be a disaster, just as an example.

And plumbers… Love those fuckers too.

Big fan of the hot chick that pours my coffee for me at Starbucks too.

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[quote]dt79 wrote:

Well, he’ got the drive but lacks the experience that’s all. [/quote]

Add in the big mouth and you’ve got the irritating part.

He’ll figure it out, like the rest of us did.

Youth is truly wasted on the young.

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[quote]polo77j wrote:
If you can’t take criticism [/quote]

Bingo, you beautiful silly fucking bastard.

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[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]ActivitiesGuy wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
You can have 15yrs experience, but I won’t take a breath of advice from you. You’re an accountant, and I don’t take advice from accountant-snappers
…
oh, and by the way beans…with all of your awesome “Experience” that you have, I’m sure you have a few accomplishments…right? Or am I mistaken?
[/quote]

LOL. Because accountants can’t possible have any accomplishments?

Comparing accomplishments between different jobs, never mind different fields, is just plain silly. I work in medical research; I have published a bunch of papers. Now compare me to one of the nurses that work in our emergency room or in the cardiac ICU; they have no real public “accomplishment” by your standard, I guess. Which of us is more accomplished? Me, because I’ve published some stuff that’s maybe kinda sorta helping to move this field forward and improve patient care, or the nurse that’s seen hundreds of patients through the toughest time of their lives and gotten people out of the hospital alive? I just do my research and hope that it saves people’s lives down the line; the nurse actually is saving people’s lives directly, every day. I couldn’t do their job in a million years. Are they not accomplished enough for you?

“Accomplishments” are hard to pin down. They’re almost meaningless outside of your own field. I don’t know how to evaluate whether an engineer, or a banker, or an attorney, or pretty much anything outside of my own field is “accomplished” - and you don’t either.

I don’t know much about your average friendly neighborhood accountant, but painting with a broad brush that beans can’t possibly know anything about any other workplace because he’s an accountant is one of the stranger arguments I’ve seen.[/quote]
An experienced cpa is one of the few whose advice would be considered extremely valuable by anyone running a company. [/quote]

Say whut?? Get out…

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]ActivitiesGuy wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
You can have 15yrs experience, but I won’t take a breath of advice from you. You’re an accountant, and I don’t take advice from accountant-snappers
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oh, and by the way beans…with all of your awesome “Experience” that you have, I’m sure you have a few accomplishments…right? Or am I mistaken?
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LOL. Because accountants can’t possible have any accomplishments?

Comparing accomplishments between different jobs, never mind different fields, is just plain silly. I work in medical research; I have published a bunch of papers. Now compare me to one of the nurses that work in our emergency room or in the cardiac ICU; they have no real public “accomplishment” by your standard, I guess. Which of us is more accomplished? Me, because I’ve published some stuff that’s maybe kinda sorta helping to move this field forward and improve patient care, or the nurse that’s seen hundreds of patients through the toughest time of their lives and gotten people out of the hospital alive? I just do my research and hope that it saves people’s lives down the line; the nurse actually is saving people’s lives directly, every day. I couldn’t do their job in a million years. Are they not accomplished enough for you?

“Accomplishments” are hard to pin down. They’re almost meaningless outside of your own field. I don’t know how to evaluate whether an engineer, or a banker, or an attorney, or pretty much anything outside of my own field is “accomplished” - and you don’t either.

I don’t know much about your average friendly neighborhood accountant, but painting with a broad brush that beans can’t possibly know anything about any other workplace because he’s an accountant is one of the stranger arguments I’ve seen.[/quote]
An experienced cpa is one of the few whose advice would be considered extremely valuable by anyone running a company. [/quote]

Thank you, lol. I knew the people who’ve actually had their ass on the line would get it.

Either way, I’m pretty sure the men and women to collect our garbage and bring it to the dumb are more accomplished than any one of us in this thread. Imagine how shitty it would be to live in a world with no one to collect the rubbish? NYC would be a disaster, just as an example.

And plumbers… Love those fuckers too.

Big fan of the hot chick that pours my coffee for me at Starbucks too. [/quote]
Lol. I don’t expect these fellows to get it. It will not make sense to them logically since their worlds are so small and they still get to collect their monthly paychecks no matter what goes on above. It’s like we’re speaking two different languages.

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[quote]dt79 wrote:

Lol. I don’t expect these fellows to get it. It will not make sense to them logically since their worlds are so small and they still get to collect their monthly paychecks no matter what goes on above. It’s like we’re speaking two different languages.[/quote]

The pleasure of it all man, is I get to literally help people live their dreams every single day.

My favorite meeting of the year is this one guy who does home remodeling with his brother. We’re not even talking a 7 figure top line, and a very small fee for us. If it takes 16 hours, including partner time, to do the entire engagement, I’d be surprised. And that is letting interns or first year staff do the workpapers.

But I love it. Here’s this “regular Joe” who comes in and gives me a copy of his quickbooks with literally a box of his stuff, and the meeting could be a total of 10 minutes. Instead it ends up about an hour, and we spend most of that time shooting the shit about our kids, how the year went, and telling “war stories” about the past year.

Typically meet him in late November or early December and it amps me teh fuck up for tax season. I walk out of that room reminded, down to the very core of my being why my career kicks so much ass. This dude sees us as part of the team, and part of the reason he can live his dream everyday. I help him have the eternal sense of accomplishment being self employed gives people, that high that comes with success. The amount we bill doesn’t even cover half of one of my paychecks, but it’s the most satisfying client I have, honestly.

Other clients are satisfying, don’t get me wrong, but each in their own way, and all for different reasons. End of the day it’s about relationships. It’s why I don’t poach clients, or undercut my bill to woo them. I mean, if you’re thinking about moving on from your current CPA I’m going to make sure my name is on the tip of your lips when you mention it, but I’m not looking to steal a client, particularly if they are being serviced in a way they like by their current CPA. It’s like trying to steal a man’s wife… The relationship is already on broken ground when you do.

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Get this, we have three clients (I manage one of them, but that’s really irrelevant), and if you combine the three things they are working on correctly, will eventually allow a surgeon in Boston perform open heart surgery on a dying child in Africa. In real fucking time. (Networks, robotics and imaging.)

And we’re helping these people change the world. How can you not smile on your drive to work everyday?

We’re just a small firm with big dreams here too man, imagine what kind of magic people are whipping up all across the world?