Slacker Co-Workers

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[quote]aeyogi wrote:
Don’t make enemies at work unnecessarily. You never know when or how someone will be able to knife you in the back; conversely, someone you have developed a rapport with may unexpectedly stick up for you or help you out in some way in the future.

You need to change your mindset so that this does not bother you, because you will be dealing with this issue for so long as you are employed.[/quote]

I work with a serial back stabber… he took a shot at me last week in an email that went up the food chain. Small wonder nobody likes to work with this guy. And he’s like 62 and getting ready to retire next year… good riddance!

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]cavemansam wrote:
where i work bosses find it easier to push some people harder and barely bother slackers
the hard workers make up for the slackers
evens out in the end[/quote]

Other than that, how is communism working for ya?[/quote]

Why work hard if it makes no difference? You sound like a sucker OP …

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:
Some pretty reasonable advice so far, I guess I just put my head down and continue on my path. I am going to have a hard time doing this, but I’ll try.

The other option would be that I constantly bust this guys balls and get all over his case for slacking. FWIW he was fired from his last job.

“Hey whats up on Facebook”!?!

“The new star wars looks pretty sweet…are you gonna download it and watch it at work”?

“Have you seen the new jame bond movie yet? It would probably make a good movie to watch here at work”

“How’s your _____ project coming along”?

etc. I want to have fun with this guy, make him extremely uncomfortable. This place breeds unprofessionalism, so I could get away with quite a bit of shit I reckon.[/quote]
Always take the higher road. He has not attacked you so just leave him alone. If and when he falls behind just make sure you are not involved with him.

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[quote]pja wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]pja wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]pja wrote:
You sound like a CAD monkey…stop acting as if you are Carl Gauss.[/quote]

No CAD monkey is getting an 8% performance raise after 7mo.

I don’t know wtf carl gauss is (ill google him in a sec), but designing things on CAD is only a portion of what i do. I go out on the floor and get my hands dirty all the time.[/quote]

The fact that you do not know who Carl Gauss is, and call yourself an engineer, means that you are pretty much a CAD monkey. Getting your hands dirty is what mechanics do.[/quote]

Oh, Gauss…yea I’m bad with names. I only learned how to apply his theories and principles. Please explain exaclty what he has to do with CAD.
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My point is some High Schools have machine shop and CAD classes…not exactly earth shattering as intellectual endeavours go. Have you maybe thought that this guy is just smarter than you and can get as much (or more) done as you in half the time…?? [/quote]

He is undoubtedly smarter than I. But he is like a lot of shitty engineers…coasted through school (cause it was easy for him, refer to my previous sentence) and never developed a solid work ethic.

And no he isn’t getting much done

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Fwiw my boss (manager B) used to work under his boss (manager A). Also, the guy who was in my position previously worked for manager A, but manager A is bad at being a manager so they put me under manager B.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
Some pretty reasonable advice so far, I guess I just put my head down and continue on my path. I am going to have a hard time doing this, but I’ll try.

The other option would be that I constantly bust this guys balls and get all over his case for slacking. FWIW he was fired from his last job.

“Hey whats up on Facebook”!?!

“The new star wars looks pretty sweet…are you gonna download it and watch it at work”?

“Have you seen the new jame bond movie yet? It would probably make a good movie to watch here at work”

“How’s your _____ project coming along”?

etc. I want to have fun with this guy, make him extremely uncomfortable. This place breeds unprofessionalism, so I could get away with quite a bit of shit I reckon.[/quote]
Always take the higher road. He has not attacked you so just leave him alone. If and when he falls behind just make sure you are not involved with him. [/quote]

Yes I understand, this is my plan. I was just so fed up with it (seeing him slack) from this past week i had to start a thread and be grounded by some decent advice like this.

My ego can be hard to deal with, so i need some outside feedback to quench its temper.

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[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]cavemansam wrote:
where i work bosses find it easier to push some people harder and barely bother slackers
the hard workers make up for the slackers
evens out in the end[/quote]

Other than that, how is communism working for ya?[/quote]

Why work hard if it makes no difference? You sound like a sucker OP …[/quote]
Not sure if you’re serious, based on your history I don’t think you are.

But, if necessary i will adapt and slack, myself. It’s just such a gross feeling…a feeling of complacency, lack of ambition, socialism. I want to cut these things heads off, I don’t want to perpetuate it. This is why i would consider saying/doing something about this guy, but I won’t.

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[quote]aeyogi wrote:
Don’t make enemies at work unnecessarily. You never know when or how someone will be able to knife you in the back; conversely, someone you have developed a rapport with may unexpectedly stick up for you or help you out in some way in the future.

You need to change your mindset so that this does not bother you, because you will be dealing with this issue for so long as you are employed.[/quote]

Agreed…and reluctantly agree.

I can’t handle not making things “right” (whats right in my mind) but i guess thats where i need to change.

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]pja wrote:
You sound like a CAD monkey…stop acting as if you are Carl Gauss.[/quote]

No CAD monkey is getting an 8% performance raise after 7mo.

I don’t know wtf carl gauss is (ill google him in a sec), but designing things on CAD is only a portion of what i do. I go out on the floor and get my hands dirty all the time.[/quote]

Hahaha. There is so many dumbass garbage engineers these days.
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Believe me, I know. Most of them fail my classes but then just take it somewhere else, pass and then graduate. In general the whole STEM push hasn’t created a better society just one where there are more shitty engineers/scientists.

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lmao…

Now I know how much of a slacker I can look to people with a 5th or so the experience I have.

And jesus does this thread irk the shit out of me. Nothing more irritating than some newb who thinks they can see the big picture in the first 5 mins they been on the job. It’s even worse when that nexb has potential, but it’s obvious they are more concerned with office drama than actually getting what they need done, done.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You damn kids; get off my lawn![/quote]

It seems your caregiver forgot your Metamucil last night grandpa.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]cavemansam wrote:
where i work bosses find it easier to push some people harder and barely bother slackers
the hard workers make up for the slackers
evens out in the end[/quote]

Other than that, how is communism working for ya?[/quote]

Why work hard if it makes no difference? You sound like a sucker OP …[/quote]
Not sure if you’re serious, based on your history I don’t think you are.

But, if necessary i will adapt and slack, myself. It’s just such a gross feeling…a feeling of complacency, lack of ambition, socialism. I want to cut these things heads off, I don’t want to perpetuate it. This is why i would consider saying/doing something about this guy, but I won’t.
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It’s good you are taking in what was said here. I like to stay away from bashing people, so I do’t mean that with what I say here. The more you post, the more you show yourself as a flaming busybody, snitch, and do-gooder. I’ve had experiences with such types myself, and in all cases I was actually doing my job and their actions were dismissed by managers because I was minding my business and doing my job. I’ve also had things said about me that were completely made up! The same has happened to one my hard working nurse friends. But we work in healthcare with mostly women, so we understand these shenanigans come with the territory. Grown men with normal hormone levels abhor snitches. Someone would really have to be directly screwing me over or push me to the bring for me to inform on him. I that case it wouldn’t be snitching.

You’re a smart and hard working guy. Unless someone’s incompetence is ruining your work, I would stay away from such drama.

Although part of me dislikes slackers, I also feel that one can in some cases not blame workers for engaging in non-work related activities on the job, as wrong as they might be. Much of modern work is painfully idle and sedentary and people have to put up with a lot of garbage just to get through the damn day. Many conclude that the world is not one giant meritocracy and that they might as well just screw around and get by. I’m not saying these people are justified, but much of their behavior is not surprising.

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[quote]aeyogi wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You damn kids; get off my lawn![/quote]

It seems your caregiver forgot your Metamucil last night grandpa.[/quote]

I lol’ed.

I see what you’re saying but try and see it from my perspective. I’ve been doing what I’ve been doing it, from where I’ve been doing it for a decade now. I know when and where I can slack and when and where I need to crank it.

Unknown you to whipper snappers is this whole idea of quality of life. Work life balance isn’t just about having less hours on the job for more pay, it’s about managing your life while working too. It isn’t about being miserable at work and having a killer life outside of it, it’s about having a killer life 24/7.

If I can manage my distractions and get the same amount of work done in 2000 billable hours as someone who will call me a slacker does in 2200-2400 billable hours, who’s better off? Me. Who does the company like more? Neither, we both get our shit done, and the company wants to hear zero bitching from one about the other.

A lot of Op’s complaints come down to perspective. It’s hard to trust his when he’s been doing it for such a relatively short amount of time.

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[quote]BrickHead wrote:
and in all cases I was actually doing my job and their actions were dismissed by managers because I was minding my business and doing my job. [/quote]

This is basically my point summed up in a sentence.

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Maybe the bosses put him there to keep an eye on you?? Hmm

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[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Grown men with normal hormone levels abhor snitches.

You’re a smart and hard working guy. Unless someone’s incompetence is ruining your work, I would stay away from such drama. [/quote]

/thread

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ITT: Proof wisdom is gained by experience.

OP, I work with my team and I am pretty across how they go. I have zero idea about how others outside that group are using their time.

My question is how engaged with your work are you and how focussed are you when this is capturing your attention and taking up your energy?

If you came to me with this, I’d say this issue is between that employee and his supervisor, I’d give you the above questions and if it didn’t stop, I’d look for a new team for you.

You can preach about how important standards are but soon your resume will have a bunch of employers in a short time and you’ll have the unemployable stench to you. Your ego may have helped you in the short term but it will hurt you in the long run.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]aeyogi wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You damn kids; get off my lawn![/quote]

It seems your caregiver forgot your Metamucil last night grandpa.[/quote]

I lol’ed.

I see what you’re saying but try and see it from my perspective. I’ve been doing what I’ve been doing it, from where I’ve been doing it for a decade now. I know when and where I can slack and when and where I need to crank it.

Unknown you to whipper snappers is this whole idea of quality of life. Work life balance isn’t just about having less hours on the job for more pay, it’s about managing your life while working too. It isn’t about being miserable at work and having a killer life outside of it, it’s about having a killer life 24/7.

If I can manage my distractions and get the same amount of work done in 2000 billable hours as someone who will call me a slacker does in 2200-2400 billable hours, who’s better off? Me. Who does the company like more? Neither, we both get our shit done, and the company wants to hear zero bitching from one about the other.

A lot of Op’s complaints come down to perspective. It’s hard to trust his when he’s been doing it for such a relatively short amount of time. [/quote]

I agree completely; just felt like giving you a hard time.

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[quote]BrickHead wrote:
… There are two kinds of people in this world: those who sign the front of the check, and those who sign the back of the check. You sign the back. [/quote]

This is good, Brick!

I may steal this line. :slight_smile:

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
lmao…

Now I know how much of a slacker I can look to people with a 5th or so the experience I have.

And jesus does this thread irk the shit out of me. Nothing more irritating than some newb who thinks they can see the big picture in the first 5 mins they been on the job. It’s even worse when that nexb has potential, but it’s obvious they are more concerned with office drama than actually getting what they need done, done. [/quote]

Been doing it wrong for how long??

You can take your INCIDENTAL experience and shove it straight up your urethra. I was raised by a guy who has as much experience at a fortune 500 company as you have on this fucking earth. I am the way I am cause of the way I was raised. The advice given to me by my dad is similar to many on this thread, but no where near yours.

In our office we can hear the beating and humming of machines being ran by guys with decades of experience. They are battling old worn out machines, and many inefficiencies that we have at our company currently (hence the need for good, hard working engineers like myself). I can only imagine the feeling they get when they walk by our office and see a pasty white 24 virgin cruising Facebook every time they glance through the window…and no thats not me, it’s the guy next to me. To be clear, I have more experience than this twit. Do I need to remind you again of how he was fired from his last job? I was told when I started that I should be there 45-50 hrs/week, I’ve been asked to come in on Saturdays (and have). Our president keeps emphasizing how we are holding steady with the same sales as 2 years ago, but we have a staff of 30 more people than 2 years ago.

So please, tell me again how I am a busy body and I should mind my own business. I just think that some of you can’t fathom someone like me (balls to the wall, pedal to the metal) exists. I do.

And how the fuck can you say this shit, and in the same breath complain about the “entitlement” society that exists.

I’m not concerned with office drama, asshole, I’m more concerned with our company, cause I truly believe we can take it to a higher level, but not with twits like this engineer that I am talking about.

And let me just reiterate, I walk into my office and my eyes are facing his two computer screens as I walk in due to layout of the office, so it’s not like I am going out of my way to “check in” on him, I simply notice it and it eats away at me that someone can do that with all of the opportunities that the company is giving to us young engineers.