He knocked out the screen and chucked diapers out the window?
He must not like Spider-Man
How will you know they’re your kids when the women don’t even know who the fathers are?
Yup. He also added some books, a stuffed bunny, and a pair of pants for good measure.
He was executing an escape.
Diapers, night-night story, all that was left was the snuggle blankey and he would be in the wind.
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. . . you might be the baby whisperer. He threw his blankey off the porch before nap time.
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Yep. Thats a pretty well thought jail break if you ask me.
And we are presuming this means they are 100% responsible then or what is your point here? Is marriage the only possible relationship responsibility commitment scenario where a man owns actions?
I meant to ask you earlier but forgot. How does starting all these threads complaining about women actually hold the ones you are complaining about accountable? Do you think a lot of them frequent T-nation and will see the error of their ways? Or do you think those of us here will rally together and somehow force these women to be more responsible?
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I do remember him! I don’t remember the context of this though. Sounds ~ 50% - 75% accurate.
Facile because it is correct. Sometimes connecting the dots is really easy.
This is one of those times.
You know what this just reminded me of?
My sisters daughters. Sis was/is not the marrying type. Although technically brilliant (very high IQ) she is extremely self centered and mentally ill.
I believe that as a result of their unstable and uncaring upbringing, None of the 3 of them are or were single mothers. Like the experience completely turned them off to the whole concept.
Not trying to point at an exception and call it the rule, just giving some insight into a situation I’ve been part of, and observed for like, 41 years now (age of my oldest niece).
Its like, no force necessary. Just a really bad, protracted experience of growing up as kids of a single mother.
If the cultural norm was get married then think about having kids; if the government didn’t incentivize out of wedlock children among the poor then maybe these women would consider contraception. Here’s something to consider: the majority of children born out of wedlock were unplanned. Meaning, you have people engaging in sex not without knowledge of the possible consequences but without any regard for them.
Something else to consider: the number of poor women, who are usually black or hispanic, getting abortions. Go look up how many black babies are aborted every day. That alone should be reason enough to work towards changing attitudes towards sex and pregnancy.
Does anyone see me blaming women or men? I’m blaming modern feminism, the government and politicians. You see these feminists rallying around abortion and they will bring up how limited access to abortion will affect minorities. And this is true. But what are any of them doing to help these young women not get pregnant in the first place? What are they doing to improve their circumstances? What are they doing to fight the over sexualization of these girls and how they are exploited in their own communities? They are doing nothing because all they want is their votes.
Black people did better in this country when they had their own schools and communities; when they had to rely on themselves. It protected them from the stupid ideas that only privileged white people could be smart enough to come up with.
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You would know all about doing what’s easy.
Annnd there it is.
And you would be wrong, dummy. Look at the whole post. I followed that with it protected them from dumb white people, like you. Also, you moron, my wife is black so I’m not exactly the poster child for segregation and certainly not anti miscegenation. Another thing, I’m not white. I used to think you were a decent person but you are really just a piece of shit.
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Most of us are.
I thought you were Italian for some reason, maybe based on a previous thread. My mistake.
I’d like to offer a full apology. Since we’re two strangers on the internet it’s easy to have misunderstandings. I read into something that wasn’t there and I’m sorry I added a frustrating moment to your morning.
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Including men though, right? In context of the OP, we are passing the buck here fully to women because they didn’t properly read a man’s mind?
I’m not interested in a discourse around outdated social norms, but I can’t accept that women are fully responsible for a consequence of action by two, which is the presumption here, with a little mind reading sprinkled in.
I also disagree with abortion landing solely in the female wheelhouse. It’s a 3 way decision. And the mute voice stands to lose the most.
Same coin. Two parents, two responsible parties. I don’t buy in to the hapless male victim bullshit on either side, though as an aside I realize the law favors women where pregnancy and parental issues are concerned. Which is bullshit.
You can’t have it both ways and our current state of single motherhood is largely due to women being abandoned, and speaking of outdated social norms, being the actual parent while the father is simply a provider who may offer some structure and a little discipline. Nevermind recycling the whole career thing back in to the fold. Fortunately women are able to at least self-sustain now.
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Close. Think of me as off white.
Here’s something that most Americans are unaware of:
Researchers measured the effects of Rosenwald Schools on rural southern blacks based on US Census and World War II records, and found that the effect on literacy levels and cognitive scores was large. A 2021 study also found that attending the Rosenwald schools increased the life expectancy of the students, as well as increased their propensity to [migrate to the Northern United States].
Compare that to the current state of schools in Baltimore. Of course forced segregation is bad. But there were unintended (hopefully they were) consequences. Blacks moved into white areas and then the whites left and the result was the ghettos, i.e., segregation. One could argue desegregation led to black people becoming dependent upon white people. It robbed them of agency. Did LBJ back civil rights for moral reasons, or to create a base of democrat voters?
I’m sorry too.
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I’m not blaming either sex; once you know these people as individuals, you realize they are not self aware enough, the only term I can think of, to comprehend things like accountability and consequences. I can’t be overly judgmental knowing their circumstances. I blame the people who should know better.
Pro choice is really women’s choice. But I’m not arguing for or against choice. I’m saying that ideally women and girls shouldn’t be in that position to begin with. It’s one thing to believe having a choice is good but it’s another to believe abortion is good.
Only that isn’t true. They haven’t been abandoned because they weren’t in a committed relationship to begin with.
Marriage is outdated but we want the two parents to live together and share the job of parenting because we know that will lead to the best outcomes for the child. Kind of sounds like marriage, doesn’t it?