Single Moms!

Is that a euphemism for something, or is there actually a charity with that purpose?

Strip clubs, lol

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We also monetize single motherhood.

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The end of the nuclear family is the end of civilized society.

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The secularization of marriage doesn’t help. It’s much harder to break a promise to your spouse and God.

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But freedom from religion, bruh.

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God is a shitty role model anyway.

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Wow, so much vitriol and lack of Self here. Leave it to @Andrewgen_Receptors to start a conversation that divides. What a gift he has.

My question is what defines a single mom?

My wife identifies as a single mom. I pay her/our mortgage, attended kids games, took them to school, I just didn’t live with them.

So, what is a single mom?

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I am a bit of a misogynist, admittedly. Giving birth does not anoint one with sainthood. The Asians would drop a kid in the rice field and keep working.

Just because you dropped a kid doesn’t make you a mother. Just because you popped a nut that made it to the egg does not make you a father either.

My time consuming fountains of puke and shit have done okay. Likely despite my help.

But, I am not a single mom.

But, my wife claims to be.

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You’re right, I’ll stick to conversations that everyone agrees on. That will be interesting for sure :joy:

Depends on whose answering.
Children raised with no good and present adult male role models, qualify as children raised in single mother homes, IMO.

I suppose this means that a single mother is literally a single maternal figure that has no men to rely on/ease the burden of raising good humans.

Not sure i see vitriol anywhere here.

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That’s what I was saying. We know, not believe, but know that single motherhood brings about much poorer outcomes in children than homes with a father. However, just mentioning reality makes you some type of -ist. Feminists, including male ones, need to go live in the inner cities for a year to see how their utopian ideas on the patriarchy and white supremacy manifest themselves.

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Don’t even joke about that. The moment you exercise self-restraint I’m throwing my keyboard at the wall.

Done it. Still a male feminist.

I don’t know about “we propagate the notion” but the rest of this is spot on. The problem is “people that are emotionally and intellectually stunted, socially marginalized and vocationally innept.” They’ve always been there, popping out children, but now because there are cameras literally EVERYWHERE and they are connected to the endless media we’re all exposed to, we all have to see it. They’re not nicely sequestered in their ghettos and trailer parks anymore, violencing upon one another in privacy while the rest of us, the taxpaying public, go blithely about our business.

I agree. I was the first one in with an opposition view, and I don’t feel that this is an angry thread at all. The angry-leaning people sound angry, the thoughtful people sound thoughtful.

Yup. Me too. If anything, being exposed to poverty and dysfunction at high levels has made me even more of a male feminist.

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And if you mean by that, you believe the nuclear family is evil, the matriarchy is superior to not only the patriarchy but a shared power between the sexes, children don’t need fathers in their lives, and the biggest problem facing women is the wage gap, then you learned nothing.

The inner city is a tax payer funded matriarchy that incentivizes and monetizes single motherhood which ultimately benefits democratic politicians and government agencies that focus on social problems, including the criminal justice system, i.e., prisons. But let’s worry about how many women are CEOs or how much WNBA players are paid.

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But they still had to get jobs. We now subsidize poor choices.

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I wouldn’t want to label myself as any sort of ist. It sounds like accepting the slavery that goes with subservience to an ideology. An exception might be nonconformist. I prefer the rebel to the revolutionary.

When I was at last month’s Feminists for the Complete Collapse of Society, I overheard @Brant_Drake say exactly that to a woman with a really masculine haircut.

I mean, really? Don’t you ever feel like maybe you’re a bit overwrought?

See, this is where you and I are fundamentally unalike. I don’t see myself as subservient in the least, as I determine for myself what labels like “feminist,” “conservative,” “progressive,” “traditional,” etc, mean for me. My locus of control is internal, so what a group of loud, agenda’d people want concerns me not at all - until enough critical mass is reached that I am threatened. Poverty is certainly a threat to us all and the ultra-left feminists’ continued shrieking about divisive nonsense is dismaying, but they are not the threat in my opinion.

The larger threat comes from a corrupt two party system that has half the people supporting corrupt leaders who are creating increasingly Dickensian conditions. Until working at the hardware store provides enough income to support a family again, things will get worse and worse. I believe your overlords are very happy with the distraction of women-resenting, race-bated voters.

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It’s a short-term structure that has shown its flaws.

I think that meritocracy, equality, and intertwined goals would lead to better outcomes. Also patriarchy is bad for men because it makes us weaker.

I mean, I think there are a ton of reasons why women are fully justified leaving men. even in a conservative situation.

There is a study where 10% of men admitted to having pedophilic thoughts. Cops commit domestic abuse at far higher rates. Sometimes men just leave. What if you get raped and don’t want an abortion?

There are very good reasons to become a single mother. Don’t just lump them all into the “You let a loser cum inside you” category.

I’m not sure what this means. But being a dual-income family trying to find child care has been a nightmare. And don’t get me started on maternity and paternity leave protections.

I like you, but this just sounds like a troll job. If you care about women and children, you spend your fucking resources on women and children.

It’s hilarious that conservatives think of themselves as rebels when it’s just that they are uncomfortable with a society that is constantly evolving and have moved past them.

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You were there too? We could have hit the gym together. And she gave me some great hair tips also.

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The reverse is also true.

Has a study been done with women? We do know there are female sexual predators. Men don’t have a monopoly on that.

So do lesbians.

We spend a lot more on that than you probably know. The question is how it’s spent. Is it spent to create change or maintain the status quo?

Camus was a communist. I was referring to the rift between Sartre and Camus. Sartre believed in communist ideology to the point he thought that the violence committed on its behalf in the USSR and China was acceptable. Camus was against social or political change via violence.

Not all societal change is good. I would refer back to the USSR and China.

This is what I’m talking about; criticizing feminism turns into misogyny. I would ask, what exactly has feminism, the version that took root in the 60s, done for the betterment of women? Suffrage? Already achieved. Access to higher education and jobs? No. Affirmative Action did that more than feminism. In fact, one could argue women benefited more from the Civil Rights Movement than feminism. How is any of that a hate statement against women?

And one could easily take “women” out of your quote and replace it with “men” and it would be just as true or as false a statement.