[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
The FINiBARs have actually grown on me. I find myself taking small bites to stretch them out and actually enjoy them. 
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You got me addicted the FINiBAR PB and Chocolate stack.
FINiBars are a big problem for me, i ordered like dunno, 8 boxes, and in 1 week im down to 5, they are honestly the most delicious god damn things on earth, but mabye thats just because my diet consists of rice//rubbery chicken and broccoli
[quote]DieselAllDay wrote:
FINiBars are a big problem for me, i ordered like dunno, 8 boxes, and in 1 week im down to 5, they are honestly the most delicious god damn things on earth, but mabye thats just because my diet consists of rice//rubbery chicken and broccoli[/quote]
Oh I agree. I once ate a whole box during the night. Time to get HYOUUGE
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
The FINiBARs have actually grown on me. I find myself taking small bites to stretch them out and actually enjoy them.
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Been there, done thatā¦ bought a t-shirt!
[quote]S C 0 0 Z E wrote:
BulletproofTiger wrote:
JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:
BulletproofTiger wrote:
Of course the old products work, but I donāt know for certain that traditional Surge will be around when I,BB comes out. You want a cheaper protocol? Try this
WO-180 a meal of chicken rice and veggies (3 hours before your)
WO-60 Alpha GPC and Granola bar and apple
WO-30 Start sipping 3 scoops Surge Recovery (Finish midway through workout)
WO+15 2 scoops Grow!.
Thanks for the protocol, so the basic idea is to keep insulin high during the workout?
No problem. What i wrote above will work for you no doubt, but itās not going to be as effective as what CT has laid out. You donāt have to take the Surge Workout Fuel but it really helps, so you might as well. Biotest stuff really isnāt that complicated actually. If you take it like CT describes, it becomes clockwork.
Does this really sounds that hard: āRight now I am using 2 FINiBARs 45 minutes prior to training, 3 scoops of Anaconda and 3 scoops of MAG-10 protein prior and during the workout (3 scoops of each total). With Alpha-GPC 90 minutes prior.ā Itās only 4 supplements (obviously MAG-10 and Anaconda are not out yet, but you can take Surge Workout Fuel + Surge Recovery + CH) ā so I guess thatās 5 supplements, or you could look at it as 2 caps 90 minutes prior to workout, 2 bars 45 min prior to workout, and 2 shaker bottles full of mixture (each with a scoop each of Surge Workout Fuel, Surge Recovery, and CH). That seems pretty simple to me.
That seems like a lot of money to be spending every month. Probably not the best but I am currently eating 1-2hrs before my workout, right before I down 10g of L-Lecuine 4:1:1, drink bunch of water during workout, then PWO Iāll take about 60b of waxy maize starch and 30g of whey isolate.
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hows that protocol working out for you?
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:
I looked at some of the new protocols and they seem quite complicated requiring many supplements. Is there a simple and effective protocol with Surge Recovery,Grow!,Flameout and food, or other simple protocols? Would there be differences in the protocols depending if you are trying to bulk or cut(I am bulking)?
Is there other cars beside a Ferrarri and lamborghini? Of course but a Civic will not turn in the same performance![/quote]
Interesting analogy, do you drive a Ferrari then? if you donāt, why not?
I mean a BMW or lexus is still a pretty damn good car, can we not suggest them anymore or ask about them just because its not a Ferrari?
I hope just because the protocol is deemed the greatest way to do something that it renders all the authors incapable of giving other suggestions or answering other questions.
Hate to sound like im picking on you CT, i value the contributions youāve made to this site.
Ammonia scavenging? Thats a new one to me, could you explain this one a little bit more and how to deal with it or if this has been discussed already, point me in the right direction. Thanx.
Coach,
I was following your peri-workout protocal (pre-Anaconda release) with the Alpha-GPC/SWF/FINiBARrs/Recovery/FINiBARs/SWF, then 2 serv of Grow! followed by 2 more 90 minutes later. I would like to buy the Anaconda package but I am sitting on all of this Biotest product I had just previously ordered and I had no problems with the old protocal, was actually getting much stronger and had no trouble holding down all the bars & liquid.
I currently have:
SWF
Recovery
Grow
FINiBARs
Alpha-GPC
Receptormax
Curcummin
HOT-ROX
Also stocking L-Leucine, Superfood, LC Metabolic Drive, Z12, ZMA, Flameout & FA3.
Do you recommend any changes to the old peri workout plan or just stay the same? I am more concerned with strength over anything else as I am doing Wendlerās 5/3/1 for Raw Strength.
Thank you for your time and congratulations on being a Dad.
[quote]mombasa333 wrote:
Ammonia scavenging? Thats a new one to me, could you explain this one a little bit more and how to deal with it or if this has been discussed already, point me in the right direction. Thanx.[/quote]
I believe He is referring to citrulline malateā¦which removes ammoniaā¦that might not be the only oneā¦
CT talking about cars, girls, and supplements = gold
ct wrote:
Obviously 600HP will use more fuel than some 135HP toy. A 135lbs guy doing 30 pull-ups is somewhat impressive, but never as much as a behemoth deadlifting 900lbs 
i guess beauty, err i mean strength is in the eye of the beholder
Just start eating 1 dollar bills at -20
bring out the fives during and post workout
roll up and smoke a hundo like you just nailed a prostitute afterwards
no crazy substances, just worthless US Govt issued play money!
haha I kid I kid.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:
I looked at some of the new protocols and they seem quite complicated requiring many supplements. Is there a simple and effective protocol with Surge Recovery,Grow!,Flameout and food, or other simple protocols? Would there be differences in the protocols depending if you are trying to bulk or cut(I am bulking)?
Is there other cars beside a Ferrarri and lamborghini? Of course but a Civic will not turn in the same performance![/quote]
Give a high performance car to someone who has just past their driving test and them to race against Michael Schumacher in the same car. The results will not be the same. Likewise with giving someone new the full Anaconda protocal, why not make sure they can eat first, supplement their diet properly and do a workout plan start to finish. I was under the impression that Anaconda was for those that are advanced (and for the rich). Those that are advanced do not compromise on anything that they perceive will give them an advantage.
Citrulline malate I remember it does help in reducing lactic acid. Thanx for explaining it to me.
Oh my, ANACONDA is expensive. I do have to say that if a person makes a living off of his or her bodyā¦you betcha, spare no expense. I unfortunately, have to stay within a budget. Plenty of whole food, protein, and a few other things tossed in is about all I can do.
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