Currently rock a Glock 30SF with a G19 stashed in the house. Love the Glock! The SF (slim frame) fits my baby-man hands better than the reg. 30. I’ve been drooling over a Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special 1911 for years. 1911s are my favorite pistol (if you couldn’t tell) and I’ll probably pick one up soon, just probably not a $1700 TRS.
Side note:
www.ombexpress.com has had some pretty sweet deals on bulk ammo (ball and such) with free shipping once in a while. I highly recommend.
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
bah at the sig.
have you guys seen the new CZ phantom? not very sexy looking, but 18+1 of 9mm? 19 rounds w/o having to reload is pretty apealing
pretty cheap too[/quote]
I’d love to get a CZ, but they’re hard as hell to get in Maryland. Stoopid shell casing laws! 
[quote]thr_wedge wrote:
I can see exactly what you are saying in how you transistion.
Something to keep in mind, though my holster would not work for that at all (high ride conceal carry IWB). Next fun show I should get a left handed holster just to try it.
It does remind me that I need to work on my weak hand shooting A LOT![/quote]
well you gotta remember, those transitions are for combat enviornments. it’s not like i’m walking the street with my m4 and m9, lol.
speaking of transitions, my battle buddy who’s a LT in afganistan right now sent me this pic a few days back. not sure how they transition from longgun to pistol w/o it being awkward but they’d rather have their legs free or carry mags on their drop pouches so w/e.
Sigs are fantastic weapons, but i don’t like them. I don’t like the double then single type of trigger pull. /I prefer the 1911, Glock and XD type of guns. If they work for you, more power to you.
[quote]thr_wedge wrote:
bambooshoots wrote:
thr_wedge wrote:
eic wrote:
No body mentioning anything about a Glock or Sig in .357? That’s a round that has me interested!
On my list…but I have no discretionary money
I like the idea a lot (accurate, powerful, small package, reliable). Reloading for it looks like a bitch though since it is essentially like reloading for a rifle round and bullet setback is very critical. TX DPS likes it enough to make it their standard caliber.
I like the .357SIG…in theory.
Great ballistics, sounds great (read: LOUD), same capacity as the .40
However you want to make sure you practice a lot with it. Make sure you can shoot the .357SIG well with only one hand in case you need to.
One drawback with the 357SIG is that it’s as pricey as the .40, if not more so. That means if you’re trying to get the aforementioned practice in it could cut into your supplements budget.
Oh yeah the Secret Service uses SIG P229s chambered in .357SIG.
yes, the ammo cost / difficulty of reloading has turned me off of the round. however during the great ammo shortage of early/mid '09, .357 was always on teh shelf ($25/50). not terrible, $50 to shoot a day of IDPA…though I can reload 9mm for $8 for 100 rounds for that same day.
I think a G33 (baby glock .357) would make for a great carry gun. powerful & compact. can someone give me $500, I will get out a range report to the forum for that low low price :-p[/quote]
Gotta keep in mind that it will be more difficult to handle the 357SIG recoil in a gun as small as the G33.
I say get a G26 (9mm baby Glock) and if you want to use the .357SIG get the G32 or G31.
[quote]bambooshoots wrote:
obigatory pic of NFA goodness
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd290/Bamboo9mm/DSC01170.jpg[/quote]
oh SHIT yeah.
we might finally of found a 09 member worth of a MMF
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
thr_wedge wrote:
I can see exactly what you are saying in how you transistion.
Something to keep in mind, though my holster would not work for that at all (high ride conceal carry IWB). Next fun show I should get a left handed holster just to try it.
It does remind me that I need to work on my weak hand shooting A LOT!
well you gotta remember, those transitions are for combat enviornments. it’s not like i’m walking the street with my m4 and m9, lol.
speaking of transitions, my battle buddy who’s a LT in afganistan right now sent me this pic a few days back. not sure how they transition from longgun to pistol w/o it being awkward but they’d rather have their legs free or carry mags on their drop pouches so w/e.[/quote]
Yes, I was definitely considering that carrying in a combat environment vs. me conceal carry or shooting in IDPA is VERY different. I still think it is worth trying, even if just for some more weak hand practice.
My assumption from that picture is that the transition from rifle to handgun involves dropping the rifle…I mean would you really be going for your handgun if your rifle is still operational? I think Col. Cooper said that the handguns only purpose was to fight your way to your rifle, right? That is my only guess sitting at my desk at work without looking like a lunatic trying to figure it out!
Hope your boys stay safe overseas!
I’ve taken a carbine class and here’s what I was told.
You transition to your pistol when your rifle runs out of ammunition or cannot be fixed with immediate action when your threat is 50yards or closer in.
Why? It is much faster to guide the rifle to the side with your nonshooting hand while drawing your sidearm than it is to reload or to to diagnose and fix something that cannot be fixed by the immediate action drill.
However, if your target is further than 50 yards away then you would be much better served to get your long gun back up and running than try to engage with a pistol.
and what the hell does MMF mean?
[quote]thr_wedge wrote:
Yes, I was definitely considering that carrying in a combat environment vs. me conceal carry or shooting in IDPA is VERY different. I still think it is worth trying, even if just for some more weak hand practice.
My assumption from that picture is that the transition from rifle to handgun involves dropping the rifle…I mean would you really be going for your handgun if your rifle is still operational? I think Col. Cooper said that the handguns only purpose was to fight your way to your rifle, right? That is my only guess sitting at my desk at work without looking like a lunatic trying to figure it out!
Hope your boys stay safe overseas![/quote]
right of course. try it out and let me know what you think. would definatly suggest a blackhawk holster that lets your release the handgun with your index finger
i agree with you on the main reason to use your sidearm would be if you still have to engage the target and your rifle is inoperable, but negative on dropping your rifle. there should be almost zero reason to leave your primary weapon in a combat enviornment. even if you have run dry of ammo or encounter a F2F. the only reason you should be dropping your rifle is to pick up another one.
agree that handguns are good only for fighting back to your rifle. which IMO makes the transition, not the accuarcy more important to me. if i’m engaging a target and i run out of ammo at that critcal moment, i want to be able to put more rounds downrange ASAP until i can find cover/time to either reload or clear the jam or whatever. which is why i’m curious about having the sidearm on their front chest.
LOL @ trying to figure it out without looking retarded at your desk. my buddy walked in as i was holding imaginary firearms and just chalked it up to not having gone to sleep yet.
[quote]bambooshoots wrote:
obigatory pic of NFA goodness
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd290/Bamboo9mm/DSC01170.jpg[/quote]
drool very nice, RRA and all 
I haven’t tried the G33 yet so I don’t know for sure…I have heard that recoil is manageable, but it could be a handful too…
[quote]thr_wedge wrote:
My fingers are short, my hands are wide, they are like little meat squares that can barely manipulate the decocker.
That’s what she said
[quote]bambooshoots wrote:
I’ve taken a carbine class and here’s what I was told.
You transition to your pistol when your rifle runs out of ammunition or cannot be fixed with immediate action when your threat is 50yards or closer in.
Why? It is much faster to guide the rifle to the side with your nonshooting hand while drawing your sidearm with your dominant hand than it is to reload or to to diagnose and fix something that cannot be fixed by an immediate action drill.
However, if your target is further than 50 yards away then you would be much better served to get your long gun back up and running than try to engage with a pistol.
and what the hell does MMF mean?[/quote]
right, agree. however like i previously said, i feel the time spent actually transitioning is more important than accuracy. i still wouldn’t want to try and engage someone at 40 yards in the combat enviornment with a pistol. even if they are 75 yards away, i’m going to dump my pistol mag at them while i move around to enough cover to fix my rifle.
having perfect accuracy at 50yards does nothing if you can’t get your pistol out and firing.
note* this doesn’t mean i just spray and pray when it comes to pistols, i still make it a point to qualify expert with the pistol, i just feel not enough thought is put into the actual transition.
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
thr_wedge wrote:
Yes, I was definitely considering that carrying in a combat environment vs. me conceal carry or shooting in IDPA is VERY different. I still think it is worth trying, even if just for some more weak hand practice.
My assumption from that picture is that the transition from rifle to handgun involves dropping the rifle…I mean would you really be going for your handgun if your rifle is still operational? I think Col. Cooper said that the handguns only purpose was to fight your way to your rifle, right? That is my only guess sitting at my desk at work without looking like a lunatic trying to figure it out!
Hope your boys stay safe overseas!
right of course. try it out and let me know what you think. would definatly suggest a blackhawk holster that lets your release the handgun with your index finger
i agree with you on the main reason to use your sidearm would be if you still have to engage the target and your rifle is inoperable, but negative on dropping your rifle. there should be almost zero reason to leave your primary weapon in a combat enviornment. even if you have run dry of ammo or encounter a F2F. the only reason you should be dropping your rifle is to pick up another one.
agree that handguns are good only for fighting back to your rifle. which IMO makes the transition, not the accuarcy more important to me. if i’m engaging a target and i run out of ammo at that critcal moment, i want to be able to put more rounds downrange ASAP until i can find cover/time to either reload or clear the jam or whatever. which is why i’m curious about having the sidearm on their front chest.
LOL @ trying to figure it out without looking retarded at your desk. my buddy walked in as i was holding imaginary firearms and just chalked it up to not having gone to sleep yet.
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Have to agree with you on all points there. I was thinking more drop as in let go and let it fall as opposed to guiding it down as you described with the assumption that the tac-sling is on. But then the sling itself would be in the way and so would the rifle…
It’s a mystery…youtube probably has the answer somewhere.
[quote]thr_wedge wrote:
bambooshoots wrote:
obigatory pic of NFA goodness
drool very nice, RRA and all
I haven’t tried the G33 yet so I don’t know for sure…I have heard that recoil is manageable, but it could be a handful too…[/quote]
Haha, actually the lower is a RRA that put together and the upper is 10.5" LMT.
I realize that recoil is highly subjective. I can’t remember which forum it was on (maybe AR15.com or Glocktalk) but I recall reading an officer that was in a shooting 1)complain of DA/SA triggers (it was either HK or SIG); his first shot was wide and 2) shooting a 357SIG pistol one handed.
That’s why I prefer firearms with only one type of trigger pull (Glock, AR15s, AKs, 1911s) and advocate the 9mm. Sure, it JUST 9mm but you get rounds and it’s easier to control and therefore easier to get rounds on target, where it counts.
Anyway, if you ask shooting instructors you’ll hear that handgun calibers are all crap anyway. If you want to poke holes in shit use a pistol; if you want to tear shit up use a rifle.
[quote]bambooshoots wrote:
That’s why I prefer firearms with only one type of trigger pull (Glock, AR15s, AKs, 1911s) and advocate the 9mm. Sure, it JUST 9mm but you get rounds and it’s easier to control and therefore easier to get rounds on target, where it counts.
[/quote]
That’s the exact reason I have my G17 and haven’t bought anything else yet. That and the G17 has been rock solid through 5000 rounds and counting. The G26 is in the front running much more than the G33 for numerous reasons (ammo standardization being the TOP reason). I still think .357 sig is a cool caliber and that’s why I always toy with the idea…
[quote]bambooshoots wrote:
thr_wedge wrote:
As far as rifles, I really need something more CQB ready…at least my shit already has bayonets attached.
I got a 10.5" AR that is GREAT for CQB…but it got too loud so I put a silencer on it.
Now it’s almost as long as a 16" AR but much quieter. I don’t want my ears to start bleeding if I have to shoot it indoors.
[/quote]
I thought silencers were illegal?
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
bambooshoots wrote:
thr_wedge wrote:
As far as rifles, I really need something more CQB ready…at least my shit already has bayonets attached.
I got a 10.5" AR that is GREAT for CQB…but it got too loud so I put a silencer on it.
Now it’s almost as long as a 16" AR but much quieter. I don’t want my ears to start bleeding if I have to shoot it indoors.
I thought silencers were illegal?[/quote]
Maybe he’s a cop and can posses one? I dunno.
Depending on the state, all you have to do is jump through some ATF Class III hoops, pay a fee ($200 or so?), and have a clean record.
Ain’t that cool? I’ve been looking into getting a can for my Glock. Why? 'Cuz I can. Same reason as the dude at the Phoenix rally w/ the AR slung over his shoulder.
[quote]Rev1911 wrote:
Depending on the state, all you have to do is jump through some ATF Class III hoops, pay a fee ($200 or so?), and have a clean record.
Ain’t that cool? I’ve been looking into getting a can for my Glock. Why? 'Cuz I can. Same reason as the dude at the Phoenix rally w/ the AR slung over his shoulder.[/quote]
I am looking for a grenade launcher for my P220 actually. Just because. I like to mark my targets with willy pete.
