Sickening Republican

[quote]Severiano wrote:

And the other thing that pisses me off about Repubs is they don’t go out of their way to correct their peers or their party, or they got away from it since McCain used to do it. For Romney, if a third party came out and attacked Obama’s nationality or religion, he didn’t step in and correct anyone, he just let them have their say and distanced himself from it so he could reap the benefits. That’s a man who either wont stand up for what is right, or doesn’t know the difference between right and wrong.
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Same thing Obama did if you looked carefully. He just had more people covering for him. This is essentially the entire point about super pacs during an election. And both people did it.

[quote]JEATON wrote:
Wretched Republicans screwing up the progressive agenda for over a century now…
http://www.grayflannelsuit.net/blog/1846-anti-slavery-alphabet[/quote]

Really?

[quote]JEATON wrote:
Wretched Republicans screwing up the progressive agenda for over a century now…
http://www.grayflannelsuit.net/blog/1846-anti-slavery-alphabet[/quote]

Its a good thing that the Republicans are screwing the progressive agenda. Look at what the progressive agenda has done to Detroit, yes over 50 years of Democrats and their patronage to the Unions has forced 25% of its citizens to move out and now Detroit is bankrupt. I hope the Republicans continue to screw the progressive agenda, or else the next Detroit may be the city or town that you live in or worse. Michal Savage coined it perfectly, “liberalism is a mental disorder” He is so correct. May God bless the USA

[quote]MTMNYC wrote:

[quote]JEATON wrote:
Wretched Republicans screwing up the progressive agenda for over a century now…
http://www.grayflannelsuit.net/blog/1846-anti-slavery-alphabet[/quote]

Its a good thing that the Republicans are screwing the progressive agenda. Look at what the progressive agenda has done to Detroit, yes over 50 years of Democrats and their patronage to the Unions has forced 25% of its citizens to move out and now Detroit is bankrupt. I hope the Republicans continue to screw the progressive agenda, or else the next Detroit may be the city or town that you live in or worse. Michal Savage coined it perfectly, “liberalism is a mental disorder” He is so correct. May God bless the USA[/quote]

A swing and a miss.
(It was a joke)

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Severiano wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
We agree , the Republicans fuck up everything. Especially the middle class[/quote]

[quote]Bauber wrote:
Republicans champion the top 1% and all the rich stock market guys who are fucking the middle class and the democrats champion the bottom 50% [/quote]

[quote]Severiano wrote:
But, when I look at who the repubs overtly represent (the top 1%) [/quote]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-top-tax-rate-should-be-28-corporations-40-small-business_742312.html

You guys may want to rethink buying into the false narrative you’ve been fed. The king of the Democrats… Fucking the little guy and giving the big guys handouts.

Maybe, just maybe, the little letter next to the name will mean they really care about you next time around…[/quote]

You missed my point about dems vs. repubs.

Lets get right to it, I’m talking about the last election, Romney vs. Obama.

Lets just accept that both guys were in the pockets of particular corporations, as they are shitbag politicians who must appease corporate interests or be replaced by a politician who better represents their ideals. Okay? I think we see eye to eye here…

If this is true, then why Romney? The guy had zero appeal due to zero ability to remotely relate to the majority of people in the country. He appealed on the platform of, The American business man who’s a fixer of all things.

How was Obama painted? Remember? Obama was made to look like a Kenyan, a Muslim, a man who got into Harvard based on his race, and because of such he got some gimme’s at Harvard which reflected in his grades. Really, he wasn’t all that smart, and it was time for Romney to replace the Kenyan, Mooooslem, EOP bad grade getting boy from office… That’s how it came across to me…

How the hell am I supposed to vote for a guy like Romney if the way he paints Obama is the same way he might paint me? I didn’t use any EOP programing at the University, but I would have if I needed it, and plenty of the people who used EOP were my peers, heck I wish I would have used it now. I saw Arnold get elected by Repubs here in Cali, I guess it’s okay if you’re born Austrian, maybe it’s because he was white? But if your dad was Kenyan?

And the other thing that pisses me off about Repubs is they don’t go out of their way to correct their peers or their party, or they got away from it since McCain used to do it. For Romney, if a third party came out and attacked Obama’s nationality or religion, he didn’t step in and correct anyone, he just let them have their say and distanced himself from it so he could reap the benefits. That’s a man who either wont stand up for what is right, or doesn’t know the difference between right and wrong.

Something as sensitive as this hit close to home for me, and then him being a religious man. Seeing all the people on these very forums, so adamantly Catholic, some of them even acknowledged that Romney is a heretic, but that didn’t stop them from voting for him on financial grounds…

What that showed me was that a lot of Christian Conservatives are bullshitters. Either money trumps ethics= you shouldn’t even be a Christian. Or, just so damned evil and flawed you have a long way to go. [/quote]

Who in their right mind thought Obama was a Kenyon born Muslim? Did Romeny say this or was it implied somewhere I missed?

Is Nacy Pelosi a heritic? Is Obama? They both claim to be Catholic.

Serious question, what did Obama do to earn your vote in 2012?

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That’s the point I’m trying to make. Obama didn’t have to earn anything from most people, as the platform Romney ran on, and his lack of correcting his peers whether it was Limbaugh and the whole non birth certificate and intelligence attack thing, to some redneck in Alabama claiming he’s a Mooslem.

Let me ask you this, how do you think someone like myself, or some other minority with half a brain take such attacks on the very rare minority Harvard Law grad who went politician? While Romney ran on his supposed business know how/ expertise (look at his Alcoa manipulation), he also campaigned in such a way that aimed to subvert Obama’s intellect via attacking his academic accomplishments and questioning whether he deserved to be at Harvard in the fist place.

You see, his campaign strategy and his silence when it came to correcting ignoramuses like Limbaugh went hand in hand. You can call it good politics, as these sorts of politics are great at garnering southern votes, and votes are votes, but actually votes aren’t just votes. By not correcting some of his more radical base, along with the vote manipulation in places like Florida, the Republican party emboldened and mobilized the minority vote.

What Republicans are doing now is getting guys like Rubio in an attempt to appeal to latino voters. Remember, University of Miami Law… Is he smart enough for Republicans? Not my standards brother, but if Obama and his law degree from Harvard wasn’t enough, how is it the Rubio has what it takes? Oh, I get it now… It’s not that Obama wasn’t smart enough, it was just good politics with Obama, but Rubio is smart enough and is a proud Latino of Cuban descent. Doesn’t work that way buddy. People aren’t goldfish, minorities tend to be more like Elephants… If Obama wasn’t smart enough, how the hell is it that Rubio is even qualified?

Psssssh, smells worse than shit.

Like I said, Dems don’t have to appeal to minorities. Republicans do all that campaigning for them.

You will see it again, in Florida.

And, for the record, nobody earned my vote. I vote with the little money I have by being careful to who I give money to/ purchase from. I’m not perfect, but I’m pretty damned good.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Severiano wrote:
Since this part missed you, [/quote]

How arrogant does one have to be to assume that by me mentioning a completely different aspect of a book, this particular aspect “missed me”?

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You missed a whole class of people Beans, and in most people’s opinions that’s the most important class of people in terms of importance of understanding paradigm.

The other way of understanding the paradigm is to look at it as actually a 2 structure system… Those in power, and those not in power.

You keep the upper class happy by giving them simple conveniences, switches on their televisions and basic conveniences as the book stated. You have the middle class who have less than the upper and are under stricter government control, then you have the lower class who fight for everything from clean razor blades to something decent to cook in.

So long as you have these three classes squabbling for petty conveniences, they are all lower class… They are in fact all lower class until they wake up and realize that they are all being controlled by the true upper class/ government… This is the true way to look at the actual classes. They all remain under control though BECAUSE they have no history this is the importance of understanding unpersons/ unpersons= no history or awareness, education. Are we seeing this on the same level? Really this is how you understand 1984?

I’m arrogant for saying something missed you, but are you arrogant for calling someone a troll, simply because you disagree with them?

And here I am eating spiced pancetta out of the packet.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Severiano wrote:

And the other thing that pisses me off about Repubs is they don’t go out of their way to correct their peers or their party, [/quote]

lol, just lol.

Neither do Democrats. Bill “I raped a few interns” Clinton for example.

Neither do CEO’s
Neither do Lawyers
Neither do Stock boys
paper boys
whites
blacks
latinos
The French
or
any religious people

Stop expecting someone with an “R” next to their name to be above what NO ONE ELSE is above.[/quote]

Either you are strawmanning me, or I didn’t communicate clearly enough that I’m talking about intellectual attacks that took place against Obama based on race, ethnicity, etc which I explained in my post in response to USMC.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I read it in 1984 :slight_smile: it was ok and I can see some things that are comparable , but I do not think it a bible of sorts
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Oh I’m sorry. How dare I get social commentary from someone other than Rachel Maddow, “UpWorthy”, or some random pot head scream unrehearsed lines into a camera on youtube…

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You are forgiven :slight_smile:

[quote]Severiano wrote:

You missed a whole class of people [/quote]

I didn’t miss shit. In fact I wasn’t even talking about the same subject you have been rambling on about for two posts.

Missing something, and not actually discussing a subject are two different things.

This never happened, but keep pretending it did if it makes you feel better.

[quote]Severiano wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Severiano wrote:

And the other thing that pisses me off about Repubs is they don’t go out of their way to correct their peers or their party, [/quote]

lol, just lol.

Neither do Democrats. Bill “I raped a few interns” Clinton for example.

Neither do CEO’s
Neither do Lawyers
Neither do Stock boys
paper boys
whites
blacks
latinos
The French
or
any religious people

Stop expecting someone with an “R” next to their name to be above what NO ONE ELSE is above.[/quote]

Either you are strawmanning me, or I didn’t communicate clearly enough that I’m talking about intellectual attacks that took place against Obama based on race, ethnicity, etc which I explained in my post in response to USMC. [/quote]

No, you said the same damn thing again. There is no strawman.

You hold republicans to a higher standard than Democrats, or anyone else really.

You can continue to go to great lengths being a apologist for your bias, or just admit them. I really don’t care.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
We agree , the Republicans fuck up everything. Especially the middle class[/quote]

And democrats don’t? LOL[/quote]

I do think the Democrats are just a (TAD) better . I heard a description that one party is owed by money and the other just sells out to money , which one is which ?:slight_smile:
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Maybe the Dems are slightly better, but they are owned by corporations so they do their bidding. They are of no use. As I always say, vote 3rd party and have a soul.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Not all of them. Ted Cruz, Rand Paul are two that come to mind.
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I like these guys too, however they will sell out/fuck it up like every other politician.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Not all of them. Ted Cruz, Rand Paul are two that come to mind.
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I like these guys too, however they will sell out/fuck it up like every other politician.
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My heart screams no, but my mind agrees.
Regrettable.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Serious question, what did Obama do to earn your vote in 2012?

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Immigration reform (amnesty) [/quote]

I can see that being a good reason.

What are your thoughts now? What are thoughts on the current immigration talks? [/quote]

I was saying that was the sole reason most of my hispanic friends voted for Obama, two of which just went to jail for identity theft. I have known them for 10+ years, never had a clue.

The funny thing is my other friends parents voted for Romney, as they worked their asses off for citizenship, and currently own their own businesses.

[quote]Severiano wrote:
That’s the point I’m trying to make. Obama didn’t have to earn anything from most people, as the platform Romney ran on, and his lack of correcting his peers whether it was Limbaugh and the whole non birth certificate and intelligence attack thing, to some redneck in Alabama claiming he’s a Mooslem.
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1.I would think a President would still need to “earn” his re-election. What did Obama do his first term that you thought was a good thing?

  1. Limbaugh is not Romneys peer. That would be like Obama correcting Al Sharpton. Why would he do that?

  2. Again, why would Romney correct some idiot from Alabama? Romney was attacked for being rich and for being a mormon, did Obama step in and defend him?

I’m sure that pissed you off, but was it Romeny or some guy named Rush that pissed you off? Limbaugh and the like are not “Republicans” politically they are entertainers looking for both shock value and loyalty from their very small following.

Did you give Romeny a chance at all?

Do you beleive that Obama ran a clean campaign against Romney? When did Romeny attack his education. Certainly not in any of the debates.

So what does Obama’s silence on Benghazi (I can’t remember how to spell it) say about him?

Again, who listens to Rush Limbaugh? No one that can think for themselves.

Again, who aside from Rush Limbaugh said Obama wasn’t smart enough?

What has he done in 5 yeas as President worthy of note?

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Like I said, Dems don’t have to appeal to minorities. Republicans do all that campaigning for them.

You will see it again, in Florida.

And, for the record, nobody earned my vote. I vote with the little money I have by being careful to who I give money to/ purchase from. I’m not perfect, but I’m pretty damned good. [/quote]

Okay.

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Serious question, what did Obama do to earn your vote in 2012?

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Immigration reform (amnesty) [/quote]

I can see that being a good reason.

What are your thoughts now? What are thoughts on the current immigration talks? [/quote]

I was saying that was the sole reason most of my hispanic friends voted for Obama, two of which just went to jail for identity theft. I have known them for 10+ years, never had a clue.

The funny thing is my other friends parents voted for Romney, as they worked their asses off for citizenship, and currently own their own businesses.[/quote]

Gotcha, I’m just curious why people re-elected a President that did very little in 4 years.

The whole “Rush speaks for all conservatives” is a clear cut, admittedly effective, Alinsky tactic.

Seriously, read summaries on “Rules for Radicals” and you’ll understand every recent Democratic campaign a whole lot better.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/obama-stays-silent-dems-mired-scandals

Just lol… But Romney, in order to be president has to do what no one on the left demand Bam do…

Right…

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Not all of them. Ted Cruz, Rand Paul are two that come to mind.
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I like these guys too, however they will sell out/fuck it up like every other politician.
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Lets see what happens. I think Ted Cruz likes seeing people squirm. Like putting a lobster in a pot of hot water. He is a true lawyer, and he loves sticking it to them.