[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Gotcha, I’m just curious why people re-elected a President that did very little in 4 years. [/quote]
Because Romney, McCain, and Bob Dole are all cut from the same mold. They show up to a fight with a pit bull with flowers. I thought Romney had Obama after the first debate, but then he pulled back into his shell for the the next two. The Republicans need to put up a real Conservative. Ted Cruz for President.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
That’s the point I’m trying to make. Obama didn’t have to earn anything from most people, as the platform Romney ran on, and his lack of correcting his peers whether it was Limbaugh and the whole non birth certificate and intelligence attack thing, to some redneck in Alabama claiming he’s a Mooslem.
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1.I would think a President would still need to “earn” his re-election. What did Obama do his first term that you thought was a good thing?
Limbaugh is not Romneys peer. That would be like Obama correcting Al Sharpton. Why would he do that?
Again, why would Romney correct some idiot from Alabama? Romney was attacked for being rich and for being a mormon, did Obama step in and defend him?
I’m sure that pissed you off, but was it Romeny or some guy named Rush that pissed you off? Limbaugh and the like are not “Republicans” politically they are entertainers looking for both shock value and loyalty from their very small following.
Did you give Romeny a chance at all?
Do you beleive that Obama ran a clean campaign against Romney? When did Romeny attack his education. Certainly not in any of the debates.
So what does Obama’s silence on Benghazi (I can’t remember how to spell it) say about him?
Again, who listens to Rush Limbaugh? No one that can think for themselves.
Again, who aside from Rush Limbaugh said Obama wasn’t smart enough?
What has he done in 5 yeas as President worthy of note?
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Like I said, Dems don’t have to appeal to minorities. Republicans do all that campaigning for them.
You will see it again, in Florida.
And, for the record, nobody earned my vote. I vote with the little money I have by being careful to who I give money to/ purchase from. I’m not perfect, but I’m pretty damned good. [/quote]
Okay. [/quote]
C’mon, you are acting like Rush was the only guy attacking Obama’s intellect.
How about Glen Beck when he was on Fox news? http://mediamatters.org/blog/2010/05/28/glenn-beck-smears-obamas-11-year-old-daughter/165466 Classy??
You have Bill O’Reilly http://mediamatters.org/research/2007/09/21/oreilly-surprised-there-was-no-difference-betwe/139893 How do you feel about Bill O’Reilly talking about black Americans in general claiming blacks don’t think for themselves and let Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson think for them? Basically saying black people don’t think for themselves, they are dumb, that’s a good description of dumb or stupid to me at least… Not my words, that’s his implication.
http://gawker.com/5835677/sean-hannity-on-obama-i-dont-think-hes-that-smart Here’s Hannity doing it too.
If the Republican party attempts to tear down a man like Obama’s intelligence, then who’s intelligence cant they bash? Just think about that for a bit please, and think about what implications that brings about.
So, you see it’s not just the extreme far right I’m talking about. These are guys who are or were staples of Republican media. So, it’s not like I’m only talking about redneck Merl from Alabama.
The party as a whole has become repulsive to the vast majority of Minorities. If Obama can be bashed on the basis of his intellect, who can’t? Oh well that strategy failed, so now the Repubs go and platform a conservative Latino Lawyer from a far inferior LAW school, yet somehow he’s smart enough for the job… Just saying, smells worse than shit.
If that doesn’t make you think twice, about being manipulated by your own party, then I don’t know what else I got for you… Like I said, I’m not a dem or repub. Just calling it like I see it.
I get equally pissed off watching MSNBC and their misinformation about firearms. I’m not someone who likes the taste of bullshit. You should try avoiding it some time.
The way it all went down with Romney was like a political machine working together in an attempt to garner and mobilize voters in any way they could. The problem is, the Republican party doesn’t avoid racial low blows, or racial implications that rile up their southern conservative redneck base. Let’s not pretend that part of the republican base are people who would never vote a black man into office. Lets also not pretend about voter sequestration, that’s some red china, commie shit right there.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
And the other thing that pisses me off about Repubs is they don’t go out of their way to correct their peers or their party, [/quote]
lol, just lol.
Neither do Democrats. Bill “I raped a few interns” Clinton for example.
Neither do CEO’s
Neither do Lawyers
Neither do Stock boys
paper boys
whites
blacks
latinos
The French
or
any religious people
Stop expecting someone with an “R” next to their name to be above what NO ONE ELSE is above.[/quote]
Either you are strawmanning me, or I didn’t communicate clearly enough that I’m talking about intellectual attacks that took place against Obama based on race, ethnicity, etc which I explained in my post in response to USMC. [/quote]
No, you said the same damn thing again. There is no strawman.
You hold republicans to a higher standard than Democrats, or anyone else really.
You can continue to go to great lengths being a apologist for your bias, or just admit them. I really don’t care. [/quote]
An apologist? For what?
I’m trying to get through your semi thick skull that Republican’s push the minority vote to democrats, really dems don’t even need to garner it because of the nature and tone of their attacks.
If I went up to a group of black people and said I’m glad more of you are thinking for yourselves and not letting Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton think for you, what the fuck kind of response would you expect? This is from Bill O’Reilly. But, somehow it’s okay right… I’m telling you it isn’t okay, and this is the sort of shit people like me remember, like a damned Elephant. I’ll tell you this, when someone insults you based on your ethnicity, language, culture as a minority you get a feeling of disempowerment and feeling like a total outsider, when what you are looking for is something to be a part of. Understand rubber band?
It’s far less bellicose than hearing about Nancy Pelosi insist on foo foo food, jet rides, and pay raises for her god damned plastic surgery.
So, if you were a minority, what party would you be more comfortable joining? The self important one who’s moderates cant help but insult you based on your race? That wont even tell it’s extremely racist attack dogs to shut up out of fear of losing their vote/ participation since these people would never vote a black man into office?
Or the self important party that just sits and lets the other party make mistakes, and spotlights it every single time.
Do you guys get it yet? Everyone from Bill O’Reilly to Rush have a similar tone, and there are even more extreme right wingers out there with far less tactful, and more colorful and overly racist attacks, none of them are corrected, so the party comes across as white elite, even closet racist just like it’s constituents and, “bloviators.”
Dems certainly have flaws, their Pelosi’s, their stupid scary looking weapon ideals. There are incidents like Benghazi, broken promises about detainees and clearing up the legal grey areas of detaining vs. giving people an American trail which effectively gives detainees more rights than our actual troops. But, at least they want me to vote, and want me to be part of their group, and don’t just want me for my vote right now, then throw me away and call me a criminal for my skin tone later. This is generally how minorities view the republican party, a bunch of self important white dudes with short arms, deep pockets. They say this and that, but when it comes down to it they won’t even pull their neo nazi rottweiler off of you, because they need that dogs vote!
Neither appeal to me in a genuine sense. If I had to pick the lesser of two evils for myself, it’s democrat. But I’m not a dem, I’ve told you before I vote with my money.
Now, think about what I said about 1984 party’s being actually a two party system of haves and have nots. Do you understand why I’m not a democrat now?
I think the Republicans will have to become more like the Democrats to win , Right now all they are doing is appealing to their base and it appears to be shrinking .
I personally do not like the Democrats much better , it is they are better at appealing to a broader group. I really thing to CHANGE things we would have to really change who we vote for , A viable 3rd party .
More from the evil Republicans 
http://www.gvpt.umd.edu/herrnson/art3.html They have us cornered , yes we vote for who we want but they control who gets to run. In today’s election money controls who wins and they wrangle any serious opposition out, by making it financially nonviable
Right now we have 2 choices which are equivalent to two sides to the same coin . I do not see Obama as being any better or any worse than Bush and I don’t think Romney would have been any better or any worse , just the Republicans would have seen a major shift in the World , Things would have appeared brighter , some how , even though everything would be as exactly as it is today .
I thin right now the Republican’s ties with Religion is hurting them more than it is helping them and if you look at the recent threads on religion I think it is easy to understand
I will say Obama has disappointed me , I was expecting CHANGE
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
That’s the point I’m trying to make. Obama didn’t have to earn anything from most people, as the platform Romney ran on, and his lack of correcting his peers whether it was Limbaugh and the whole non birth certificate and intelligence attack thing, to some redneck in Alabama claiming he’s a Mooslem.
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1.I would think a President would still need to “earn” his re-election. What did Obama do his first term that you thought was a good thing?
Limbaugh is not Romneys peer. That would be like Obama correcting Al Sharpton. Why would he do that?
Again, why would Romney correct some idiot from Alabama? Romney was attacked for being rich and for being a mormon, did Obama step in and defend him?
I’m sure that pissed you off, but was it Romeny or some guy named Rush that pissed you off? Limbaugh and the like are not “Republicans” politically they are entertainers looking for both shock value and loyalty from their very small following.
Did you give Romeny a chance at all?
Do you beleive that Obama ran a clean campaign against Romney? When did Romeny attack his education. Certainly not in any of the debates.
So what does Obama’s silence on Benghazi (I can’t remember how to spell it) say about him?
Again, who listens to Rush Limbaugh? No one that can think for themselves.
Again, who aside from Rush Limbaugh said Obama wasn’t smart enough?
What has he done in 5 yeas as President worthy of note?
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Like I said, Dems don’t have to appeal to minorities. Republicans do all that campaigning for them.
You will see it again, in Florida.
And, for the record, nobody earned my vote. I vote with the little money I have by being careful to who I give money to/ purchase from. I’m not perfect, but I’m pretty damned good. [/quote]
Okay. [/quote]
C’mon, you are acting like Rush was the only guy attacking Obama’s intellect.
How about Glen Beck when he was on Fox news? http://mediamatters.org/blog/2010/05/28/glenn-beck-smears-obamas-11-year-old-daughter/165466 Classy??
You have Bill O’Reilly http://mediamatters.org/research/2007/09/21/oreilly-surprised-there-was-no-difference-betwe/139893 How do you feel about Bill O’Reilly talking about black Americans in general claiming blacks don’t think for themselves and let Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson think for them? Basically saying black people don’t think for themselves, they are dumb, that’s a good description of dumb or stupid to me at least… Not my words, that’s his implication.
http://gawker.com/5835677/sean-hannity-on-obama-i-dont-think-hes-that-smart Here’s Hannity doing it too.
If the Republican party attempts to tear down a man like Obama’s intelligence, then who’s intelligence cant they bash? Just think about that for a bit please, and think about what implications that brings about.
So, you see it’s not just the extreme far right I’m talking about. These are guys who are or were staples of Republican media. So, it’s not like I’m only talking about redneck Merl from Alabama.
The party as a whole has become repulsive to the vast majority of Minorities. If Obama can be bashed on the basis of his intellect, who can’t? Oh well that strategy failed, so now the Repubs go and platform a conservative Latino Lawyer from a far inferior LAW school, yet somehow he’s smart enough for the job… Just saying, smells worse than shit.
If that doesn’t make you think twice, about being manipulated by your own party, then I don’t know what else I got for you… Like I said, I’m not a dem or repub. Just calling it like I see it.
I get equally pissed off watching MSNBC and their misinformation about firearms. I’m not someone who likes the taste of bullshit. You should try avoiding it some time.
The way it all went down with Romney was like a political machine working together in an attempt to garner and mobilize voters in any way they could. The problem is, the Republican party doesn’t avoid racial low blows, or racial implications that rile up their southern conservative redneck base. Let’s not pretend that part of the republican base are people who would never vote a black man into office. Lets also not pretend about voter sequestration, that’s some red china, commie shit right there. [/quote]
You hit the nail right on the head, they are a part of the media. I don’t blame Anderson Cooper for Obama’s short comings…
It’s not my party, I might typically vote R, but I’m not an R.
You’re making an awful lot of assumptions. I asked you multiple questions. What I didn’t do was push anything on you.
The same exact thing can be said about Obama:
“a political machine working together in an attempt to garner and mobilize voters in any way they could. The problem is, the Democratic party doesn’t avoid racial low blows, or racial implications that rile up their minority base.”
*Changes obviously mine.
