[quote]Kevin5255 wrote:
-stop tossing the internet salad of the only girl who posts here, its fucking pathetic
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LOL
Ahh, the old “spirit of the sport” thread. You just had to take me up on it, didn’t you?
I say she’s using her genetics to her advantage just like everyone does in sports. There’s a dwarf, Mike Kuhns, who a big USAPL powerlifter. ROM on bench and squat are mere inches. I say more power to them both.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
I say more power to them both. [/quote]
I get it.
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]Kevin5255 wrote:
-stop tossing the internet salad of the only girl who posts here, its fucking pathetic
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LOL[/quote]
This amuses me. Especially because the OP is a woman and at least two other women had posted in here…And because “tossing the internet salad” just sounds funny.
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[quote]roguevampire wrote:
as per usual i will say what others think. that is totally pathetic. that is a partial lockout, thats all. first, thats not a legal bench press. your ass has to be on the bench at all times. end of story. in every legitimate org, states, your but has to be firmly planted on the bench and can not come off of it at any time. yes, you can arch your back, but your butt has to stay on the bench. she lowered that bar no more than 3 or 4 inches… thats truly pathetic. truly pathetic.[/quote]
It was a legal press, but it was also pathetic… Who cares what freakish shape you can twist into to press a light weight. A bit of sportsmanship would go a long way[/quote]
So, if I understand your argument correctly, training to be stronger so you can lift more weight is cool, but training to be more flexible so you can lift more weight is not cool?
I mean, I was having difficulty hitting depth in the squat for a while, so I tried getting more flexible so that I could total in a meet. Was that poor sportsmanship?
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(gasp) You cheating bastard! What’s wrong with you squatting to depth? Next thing we know you’ll be pausing the bench in competition too, and holding the deadlift at the lock out like Magnusson. 
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
And because “tossing the internet salad” just sounds funny.[/quote]
Really anytime I hear “tossing salad” I laugh. It’s because I’m very mature.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Ahh, the old “spirit of the sport” thread. You just had to take me up on it, didn’t you?
I say she’s using her genetics to her advantage just like everyone does in sports. There’s a dwarf, Mike Kuhns, who a big USAPL powerlifter. ROM on bench and squat are mere inches. I say more power to them both. [/quote]
Holy shit, I just looked that guy up. I saw a 455 bench and 606 squat at 137, and I still don’t see how he didn’t snap in half.
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Ahh, the old “spirit of the sport” thread. You just had to take me up on it, didn’t you?
I say she’s using her genetics to her advantage just like everyone does in sports. There’s a dwarf, Mike Kuhns, who a big USAPL powerlifter. ROM on bench and squat are mere inches. I say more power to them both. [/quote]
Holy shit, I just looked that guy up. I saw a 455 bench and 606 squat at 137, and I still don’t see how he didn’t snap in half.[/quote]
Its spectacular to watch. I competed against him in 132’s in may and its absolutely mind boggling
Mike Kuhns is awesome. He reminds me of Naim Suleymanoglu.
Too bad Mike Kuhns got brainwashed by powerlifting jacktards early in his career.
A bit late to this…
But damn at her flexibility! Props to her.
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With pink socks? Questionable lol.
But honestly what’s the point. I get that if you’re in a competitive setting and it let’s you preform better - sure. But if you’re just a gym rat, I’d rather press with my whole back on the bench (as far a reasonable) . Even if it meant dropping a few kg from the bar
Well, you do have a point but this is the powerlifting section so the assumption is that you are doing what you do for competitive purposes. Even then, trying to maximize your arch might not be worth it if it fatigues your back or makes it cramp and then you can’t pull as much after. Also you can run into other issues, I was benching with a big arch (although nowhere close to this) for a while and I was having issues with my ass coming off the bench. I changed my technique and stopped arching so much, fixed the problem and bench is roughly the same. It can be a trade off.
Complaining about someone’s “unfair, advantageous” competition technique in powerlifting (as long as it adheres to the rules, which everything I see in this video does) is about as stupid as complaining that all those guys in the NBA are so tall, or the linebackers in the NFL are too big.
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I’m not really sure that it’s so much that people think this super-arch is “unfair” per se. I think it’s more that people look at that and think that this goes against what drew them to powerlifting in the first place. Most of us were drawn to powerlifting because we perceived it as being about getting as strong as possible (which, to some extent, it is). I guarantee you no one got into it because they wanted to learn how to move the biggest weights over the shortest possible range of motion. I think part of the reason that powerlifting will never be an Olympic sport like weightlifting is that it lends itself to these techniques that make it look less like a sport and more like some kind of carnival act (I know this sounds really pejorative, and I don’t mean it to be, but I think that’s how these kinds of techniques are perceived by non-PLers). The prestige sports establishment will not buy into a sport that consists of 3-inch ROM bench presses and 5-inch ROM squats and deads.
At the same time, I realize that it is a sport, and that competitors are justified in doing whatever is necessary to win within the confines of the rules, so it is what it is.
I think this is accurate. However, training and competing are different animals.
Many of us train deficit deadlifts and pause squats (or whatever)vto improve our strength and work through weak spots. You wouldn’t do this in competition because it makes no sense. You take the strength you built and marry it to god given leverages to move the most weight at a meet.
It’s not impressive to forgo the legitimate tools at your disposal when competing.
As far as not becoming an Olympic sport… meh. The OIC has made enough sketchy decisions in the past decades that not being included is neither here nor there as far as legitimacy is concerned.
I could see this being the case if large arches like this were more common than they are, but in reality there’s probably less than 1% of lifters that can do this sort of technique. Funny thing is, I’ve never heard guys with respectable benches or ANY females talk shit on big arches, but yet you hear it all the time from 160 lb bros who are stoked on their new 3RM at 225 lb, but will totally be repping 4 plates as soon as they decide to jump on the steeeeroids
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Yeah but they have stuff like synchronized swimming in the olympics, that has much less to do with any sort of athleticism than powerlifting.
One of the big reasons why PL isn’t in the olmypics is that steroids are common, and even in “drug-free” feds like the IPF you have a lot of people testing positive. Weightlifting was on the verge of getting thrown out of the olympics after so many people tested positive the last 2 times, there were people who came in 5th and now have a gold medal because everyone ahead of them in the same weight class tested positive.
Didn’t realize that. I thought drugs were still pretty common among elite weightlifters. Seems hard to believe the Chinese team is all natty.
