I’m with Bonez too. The movie was fairly predictable given the blatant symbology they were trying to push. Wife’s always wet, 4 were “killed” by Leaddis, kids all over the place, what kind of Marshall gets a new partner half way through a boat ride, everyone knowing him so well and commenting on the violence inside him etc etc.
That being said I’m alright with it being predictable, just 2 things I didn’t like.
The role play was PERFECT. Nothing ever goes wrong. Lets let him climb a rock face over an ocean, he’s a rock climber right? Let’s sleep in the same room as the crazy (as previously mentioned), no inmates blow the cover. The plan involves him attacking(and potentially killing guards and patients). He has no carry-over memory from before he’s on the boat(even if that memory is also delusional), etc etc.
I know you can explain away them individually, but overall, getting everything to go off without a hitch is impressive.
Second thing was sound track, everything was the most intense moment of my life. DUN DUN-DUN DUN-DUN DUN
Also in terms of the storm. Further point in favour of his psychosis. If there’s no storm he can leave, he knows he really can’t leave. So he creates the storm to “trap” himself in his cozy delusions.
[quote]Benjuito wrote:
Just wanted to say that I LOVE IT when movies are advertised as being an entirely different story than they actually are. I would so much rather walk into a movie completely deceived, thinking I know what’s going on and figuring out I am wrong a little later. Makes movies much more entertaining to me (even though the characyer buildup did seem a litte overkill for the 1st hour)[/quote]
100% agreed, I hate it with all the trailers and info available these days that you know 80% of the story without ever seeing the movie.
[quote]drewh wrote:
Bull shit anybody preicted the ending unless you read the book maybe you knew he was crazy but all the specifics.[/quote]
You’re kidding right? It’s quite typical for movies to make you think one thing, and it nto be it.
I literally told my wife, SPOILER… watch him be the crazy oen and actually be a patient, but then said, nah that would be way too easy. fuck me[/quote]
[quote]mr popular wrote:
It’s obvious that some of you only go to see movies so you can feel smart about yourselves, rather than enjoying it for what it is.
And it’s sad.[/quote]
Agreed. It must be next to impossible to create a plot that can totally deceive an intelligent movie buff, while at the same time is simple enough to be understood by the millions of people who view a movie like Shutter Island to get a few scares. I really enjoyed the character development myself. While I agree it wasn’t incredibly scary, it was certainly interesting.
I thought it was a great movie. Maybe you could guess the overall outcome but not the specifics. To me it is still not entirely clear what the outcome was. Did you not notice all of the references to the Nazis in the movie such as the gates which were just like the ones in Auschwits camp and the relation to the rats around the cave which Nazis would refer to as jews?
IH and I saw this yesterday. I read the book on the flight to Philly. I think the movie represented the book pretty well. Some of the incidental stuff was taken out of course. I think at the end he was sane, that he hadn’t regressed but just couldn’t live with himself so pretended to regress so he could have the lobotomy and forget forever. That last line about living as a monster or dying a good man is NOT in the book. I got from the book that he had regressed, that the whole playacting thing didn’t work. It is true about the way mental illness was treated back then. I can completely understand Teddy’s refusal to see something wrong with his wife due to the way people thought of mental illness. Overall, it was a faithful rendition of the book and a good mental “horror” movie.
[quote]MementoMori wrote:
I’m with Bonez too. The movie was fairly predictable given the blatant symbology they were trying to push. Wife’s always wet, 4 were “killed” by Leaddis, kids all over the place, what kind of Marshall gets a new partner half way through a boat ride, everyone knowing him so well and commenting on the violence inside him etc etc.
That being said I’m alright with it being predictable, just 2 things I didn’t like.
The role play was PERFECT. Nothing ever goes wrong. Lets let him climb a rock face over an ocean, he’s a rock climber right? Let’s sleep in the same room as the crazy (as previously mentioned), no inmates blow the cover. The plan involves him attacking(and potentially killing guards and patients). He has no carry-over memory from before he’s on the boat(even if that memory is also delusional), etc etc.
I know you can explain away them individually, but overall, getting everything to go off without a hitch is impressive.
Second thing was sound track, everything was the most intense moment of my life. DUN DUN-DUN DUN-DUN DUN[/quote]
The only real complaint I had at about the movie was how loud and dominating the score was. The scene when we’re first introduced to the hospital was giving me a headache the music was so loud.